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Author Topic: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil  (Read 15321 times)

Offline buddyboy

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A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« on: July 26, 2013, 09:04:47 AM »
Hi im new to overunity.com

I have a doubt
Let us consider that i have a huge permanent magnet and a small coil of wire.
I have placed the coil parallel to the magnetic field.
If I pass a small amount of current into the coil, Will it be attracted by the magnet?
Will eddy currents stop the coil going to the magnet, will there be any induced emf?
Suppose the coil without current falls parallel to the magnetic field what will happen?
Will eddy currents and induced emf develop inside the coil and stop its fall??
Please explain

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Offline Magregus

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #1 on: August 26, 2013, 09:03:06 AM »
Two magnets and a coil of wire is all you need to get DC power. Field alignment and double poles is what you need to make it happen.

Offline tinman

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2013, 12:32:29 PM »
Two magnets and a coil of wire is all you need to get DC power. Field alignment and double poles is what you need to make it happen.
DC current cannot be produced by magnets and a coil only.

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #2 on: August 26, 2013, 12:32:29 PM »
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Offline Magregus

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #3 on: August 26, 2013, 01:57:35 PM »
DC current cannot be produced by magnets and a coil only.

And that kind of thinking is why you fail.

Offline tinman

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2013, 02:31:40 PM »
And that kind of thinking is why you fail.
Why i fail???
Please provide circuit for this DC power output with only a coil and two magnet's,and then we shall see who fail's.

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #4 on: August 26, 2013, 02:31:40 PM »
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Offline MileHigh

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #5 on: August 26, 2013, 02:34:01 PM »
Magregus:

Just like Tinman said, DC current cannot be produced by magnets and a coil only.

You said, "And that kind of thinking is why you fail."

You fail.  You actually super-fail.  Plus you are making postings with single-line statements with no other comments to try to prove your point.

Your super-fail is because we know that a coil needs changing magnetic flux with respect to time to generate any EMF.  Our entire society is powered using this principle.  It can be proven mathematically and it's the reality that you can discover for yourself on an electronics bench.

You are rather "spooky" and I would not be surprised if in a few days you disappear never to be heard from again.

MileHigh
 

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2013, 03:35:15 AM »
Once again, reality and the laws of physics rear their ugly heads. 

Just think of what we could do without those laws.  We could probably have a COP of over 10,000 by now, ha ha.

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
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Offline Magregus

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2013, 04:43:16 AM »
Magregus:

Just like Tinman said, DC current cannot be produced by magnets and a coil only.

You said, "And that kind of thinking is why you fail."

You fail.  You actually super-fail.  Plus you are making postings with single-line statements with no other comments to try to prove your point.

Your super-fail is because we know that a coil needs changing magnetic flux with respect to time to generate any EMF.  Our entire society is powered using this principle.  It can be proven mathematically and it's the reality that you can discover for yourself on an electronics bench.

You are rather "spooky" and I would not be surprised if in a few days you disappear never to be heard from again.

MileHigh

This coming from the person who doesn't even know how a magnetic field works..

Tell me this, how does your electricty come off a coil, horizontal or vertical...do you know? Does it come off towards North or South pole or both at the same time? Is it going both horizontal and vertical... All these things take play with coils and magnets.  You need to understand fields and polarities but not what you get from a science book because 90% off the information is wrong.  Get some magnets and actually have a play and learn this stuff and you'll find a whole lot of stuff that's not known yet.

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #8 on: August 27, 2013, 05:04:41 AM »
I am more than reasonably certain that both MH and Tinman know how a magnetic field works.  Magnetic fields are NOT a new discovery...they have been studied for a long, long time now by some brilliant folks.

I will never say that mankind knows everything about everything, far from it.  I will say that in this case, the studies and experiments are well known.

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
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Offline Magregus

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #9 on: August 27, 2013, 05:18:27 AM »
I am more than reasonably certain that both MH and Tinman know how a magnetic field works.

Bill


Well in MH's case he is mistaken. He posted an old theory on magnetic fields in Bruce's thread if you go and have a look, or maybe you think that is how fields run as well?

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #10 on: August 27, 2013, 11:50:06 AM »
Magregus, you certainely talk of tsbrownie or LifeHack2012, I want to believe it but I'm not sure that it really works.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wJwKemnEUko
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoCBORXzOqU

For LifeHack2012 I'm sure he is a liar because he never post a comment, but for tsbrownie I realy don't know.
I don't know to if there is a difference between isotropic and anisotropic but the only difference is in the magnetic field dirrection.

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
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Offline tinman

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #11 on: August 27, 2013, 02:05:28 PM »
Well in MH's case he is mistaken. He posted an old theory on magnetic fields in Bruce's thread if you go and have a look, or maybe you think that is how fields run as well?
Once again i ask,please show this wild theory of yours with a working device,insted of telling us we dont know what were talking about.
Just a simple schematic of the setup will do ,if you dont wish to build the device you make claim of.
I suspect we will see nothing from you ,as you seem to be just another talker.

Like mile high said-it is you that is failing at the moment. But you could ofcourse prove us wrong-how ever i cant see that coming any time soon.

DC current CANNOT be produced by two magnets and a coil only.

Offline Magregus

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #12 on: August 27, 2013, 02:39:34 PM »
Once again i ask,please show this wild theory of yours with a working device,insted of telling us we dont know what were talking about.
Just a simple schematic of the setup will do ,if you dont wish to build the device you make claim of.
I suspect we will see nothing from you ,as you seem to be just another talker.

Like mile high said-it is you that is failing at the moment. But you could ofcourse prove us wrong-how ever i cant see that coming any time soon.

DC current CANNOT be produced by two magnets and a coil only.

You know what? If you had asked me to show you a schematic or something in your first post I would of been happy to give some information to you. Instead of asking me about double poles and how to go about it you come out thinking you know everything and make a statement that you believe to be true. What I choose to share is up to me but posts like the one above just encourage me to hold onto this stuff.





Offline Liberty

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2013, 03:51:21 PM »
Once again i ask,please show this wild theory of yours with a working device,insted of telling us we dont know what were talking about.
Just a simple schematic of the setup will do ,if you dont wish to build the device you make claim of.
I suspect we will see nothing from you ,as you seem to be just another talker.

Like mile high said-it is you that is failing at the moment. But you could ofcourse prove us wrong-how ever i cant see that coming any time soon.

DC current CANNOT be produced by two magnets and a coil only.

"DC current CANNOT be produced by two magnets and a coil only."

True, because it also requires an increasing or decreasing magnetic field in order to induce a voltage in a conductor.

However, all generators/alternators in reality produce "pulse DC" only.  AC generators produce a created combination of pulse DC in different polarities by reversing flux flow or reversing the coil polarity or reversing the direction of motion, but what generators/alternators produce during power generation is actually only pulse DC, no matter what the configuration or type of generator/alternator.

Liberty

Offline tinman

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Re: A strong permanent magnet and a small coil
« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2013, 04:13:01 PM »
You know what? If you had asked me to show you a schematic or something in your first post I would of been happy to give some information to you. Instead of asking me about double poles and how to go about it you come out thinking you know everything and make a statement that you believe to be true. What I choose to share is up to me but posts like the one above just encourage me to hold onto this stuff.
It was you that threw out the bold statement,not me. I just tried to tell you that it cannot be done.
A direct current cannot be produced by 2 magnets and a coil-full stop.
But i see you are now coming up with the excuses as to why you wont confirm your claim's-this is tipical of some one that CANNOT back up there claim's. We see this all the time,so no further discusion is required in reguards to your magic DC power plant.

@Liberty.
I have to disagree with what you said about it being pulsed DC. DC current flow's in one direction(if we are to use that term),while AC current alternates in both direction and voltage,and most of the time current aswell.
Your Quote:but what generators/alternators produce during power generation is actually only pulse DC, no matter what the configuration or type of generator/alternator.

Would you not agree that to get a DC current,we need to rectify,and also use smoothing cap's?
There are DC generator's(i have one),but it is not a smooth DC,but rather noisey and erratic without smoothing cap's. Now vehicle altinator's have built in diode's to rectify the current,but this is also not a smooth DC current until you hook it to the battery-even then,you can see the ripple on a scope when you draw a load from the battery(eg headlights on).

My point was that Magregus is talking rubbish,and now as you can see,he is looking for a way out-the excuses are flowing already.
But nothing out of the ordinary,as we see it time and time again, when people make claims they cannot back up.

 

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