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Author Topic: Self-sustained power generator  (Read 42000 times)

weston14

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #30 on: July 27, 2013, 08:07:28 AM »
@Liberty
I think I know what you mean by “does not violates the second law of thermodynamics” thank you , and you are right it does not create energy , if it improves efficiency , I think efficiency of any alternator or generator used in this mechanism would stay the same .

weston14

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #31 on: July 27, 2013, 08:09:47 AM »
Proposed self-sustaining power generator   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1WR7OJHryM   

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #32 on: July 27, 2013, 08:55:50 AM »
HI, I'm new user and want to know about, "why the N machine is not working ?"
            I read somewhere that N machine has opposite drag by the magnetic flux, that's why it's not working as a perpetual machine, but "IF ANY SYSTEM (like N machine) DOESN'T HAVE OPPOSITE DRAG THEN IT CAN BE PERPETUAL, RIGHT ?"

may be I invent a thing like this but it's not ready yet.......

Thank you.

TinselKoala

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #33 on: July 27, 2013, 01:55:06 PM »
That's the exact same video you started this thread with five days ago.

Making great progress I see!

weston14

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #34 on: July 28, 2013, 09:32:08 PM »
Hi @MIKY  if you think you invent something that’s PM I advice you not to claim that on a patent application unless you can leave the room come back in a 1000yrs and find it still running which is very unlikely .
Best regards.

weston14

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #35 on: July 28, 2013, 09:33:10 PM »
@TinselKoala in this video  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1WR7OJHryM    if you noticed I am asking for help without it I don’t think I am going to see much progress in the near future , would you like to donate 5dlls or more ? You don’t have to choose a reward if you don’t want to .  If you gentlemen wanted something close to free energy or at least affordable renewable energy , either , you would build one of this mechanism at least try or pitch in for my campaign .

TinselKoala

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #36 on: July 28, 2013, 10:27:37 PM »
@TinselKoala in this video  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1WR7OJHryM    if you noticed I am asking for help without it I don’t think I am going to see much progress in the near future , would you like to donate 5dlls or more ? You don’t have to choose a reward if you don’t want to .


Yes, I noticed that. No, I would not like to donate five dollars to you. Would you like to donate five dollars to me? I think I could make a pretty good case that I need the money more than you do.

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  If you gentlemen wanted something close to free energy or at least affordable renewable energy , either , you would build one of this mechanism at least try or pitch in for my campaign .

No, that's absolutely not true.

You have shown nothing unusual, nothing original, and you have not provided any evidence for your claim, which you can see in the title of this thread. If you had anything worthwhile, you would be providing some evidence for it instead of making empty claims and showing yourself playing with toys. Nobody is going to help you because your mistakes are evident and elementary, and you, like so many other hopeful dreamers, refuse to educate yourself properly in order to understand your own topic.

I am being this blunt because you had the utter unmitigated gall to ask me for money, and I am tired of being abused by those whom I try to help.

weston14

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #37 on: July 28, 2013, 11:18:51 PM »
@TinselKoala Sorry if I did offend you , and sorry to hear you have been abused by people you have tried to help before . I have seen one of your videos  I won’t question the purpose of them , I know they will acquire you more knowledge and eventually achievements . Am I a dreamer ?  Don’t know but I do want one day be able to produce my own electricity , my way , without the use of any fuels and anywhere I want and at anytime . Thanks for your comments .

FatBird

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #38 on: July 28, 2013, 11:48:48 PM »
@ Weston14


Don't feel bad when the Trolls come along with negativity.  There are a LOT of trolls out there.

For those that don't know what a Troll is, they:


1.  Troll around Free Energy Forums to discourage good ideas.
2.  Value their paycheck more than they value free energy for the world.
3.  Try to get inventors to chase insignificant rabbit trail ideas to waste time.
4.  Try to discredit and ridicule good honest inventors that are trying to help the world.
5.  Are generally paid by Big Oil Corporations so nothing interferes with Big Oil's FAT PROFITS.
6.  Try to cause anger and fights to get people discouraged and fight with each other so they give up and go away.


Here's a GOOD example.  Look how they just DROVE David Bowling AND Rosemary Ainslee AWAY.  SAME methods listed above!  SAME Guys too.


Trolls build nothing, contribute nothing and add nothing to anyone.

LibreEnergia

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #39 on: July 29, 2013, 12:02:35 AM »
@ Weston14


Don't feel bad when the Trolls come along with negativity.  There are a LOT of trolls out there.

For those that don't know what a Troll is, they:


1.  Troll around Free Energy Forums to discourage good ideas.
2.  Value their paycheck more than they value free energy for the world.
3.  Try to get inventors to chase insignificant rabbit trail ideas to waste time.
4.  Try to discredit and ridicule good honest inventors that are trying to help the world.
5.  Are generally paid by Big Oil Corporations so nothing interferes with Big Oil's FAT PROFITS.
6.  Try to cause anger and fights to get people discouraged and fight with each other so they give up and go away.


Trolls build nothing, contribute nothing and add nothing to anyone.

Then again, some of us just can't bear to see others waste their time on unworkable concepts, and are prepared to help others understand why what they propose cannot ever work.

I'd like to find free energy as much as any in here. However, I know for certain that what is proposed here is based on a flawed understanding of mechanics and will not work.

MileHigh

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #40 on: July 29, 2013, 12:08:53 AM »
FatBird:

I don't really see much of contribution from you besides cheerleading for any crazy free energy proposition that you see, or, you post about the "trolls" and how they are "bad."

Whenever someone asks you to back up your claims and state why you believe in a given free energy proposition you have nothing to say.  In fact you usually run away and are never heard from again.

Roberto seems like a nice guy.  But he also seems deluded because he is swinging a stick connected to a small generator and calling that free energy.

FatBird, because you have nothing of substance to contribute that I am aware of, in that sense you are the troll.  This is a place to debate ideas and when you blindly claim that ideas without merit by inexperienced beginners are good, then you are being counter-productive.

You are saying "Don't think for yourself, just blindly believe that nearly every free energy proposition you see is real.  Be just like me."

Sorry, myself and a lot of other people are not ever going to be like you.

Sorry again, but you are the troll in this thread.  You contribute nothing and ask us to believe like sheep, just like you.

Everyone should think critically for themselves and try to learn.  If Roberto tries to learn he will learn where he is making a mistake and withdraw his free energy claim.  Everyone becomes a winner when that happens, and the biggest winner would be Roberto.

MileHigh

FatBird

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #41 on: July 29, 2013, 12:58:17 AM »
He's giving LOADS of proof that his idea WORKS.  It is so Crystal Clear a CHILD can see it.
By moving his hand in a very SLIGHT CIRCLE he is producing OVERUNITY with a HUGE TORQUE!!!
How much more proof do you want?


Now all he is asking is some Help to Scale it Up.



MileHigh

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #42 on: July 29, 2013, 01:18:41 AM »
I'll tell you what I see.  An astute person that wants to learn should see the same thing.

He is putting mechanical power with his arm movements into a shaft with a weight on it.  This shaft with a weight on it is a primitive flywheel that can store some of the mechanical power provided by his arm as mechanical rotational energy.

Finally there is a generator connected to an LED flashlight that draws some of the energy available in the spinning shaft/flywheel and at the same time it draws power directly from his arm when his arm is supplying mechanical power to the system.

Therefore, let's say we look at a time interval of sixty seconds:

Over sixty seconds, how much mechanical energy is he supplying with his arm movements?
Over sixty seconds, how much electrical energy is pumped into the LED?

Which one of the two above represents greater energy?

Even a young CHILD should be able to tell you that his arm is supplying much more mechanical energy as compared to the amount of electrical energy supplied to the LED.

Can't you see this?   It is so simple and so obvious to me.  There is nothing of merit here FatBird, absolutely nothing.

FatBird

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #43 on: July 29, 2013, 01:30:09 AM »
It's NOT a regular flywheel.  Flywheels rotate on a Fixed shaft with bearings in a FIXED rotational plane.


This is a NEW Concept Modified Flywheel, which has CENTRIFUGAL FORCE ADDED to the rotation, which adds a lot of Torque..


You WON'T find this invention in any physics books!!!!


Let's wake up & help him out to scale it up.




MileHigh

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #44 on: July 29, 2013, 01:39:21 AM »
Sorry FatBird, you have glazed eyes and are in free energy fantasy land.  There is nothing going on here, absolutely nothing.