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Offline profitis

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #15 on: July 24, 2013, 05:03:07 PM »
@libre,,you found a way round that problem?am i reading correct?thers ways round the 2nd law thermo with electromagneto systems indeed yes with their limited entropy states.

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« Reply #16 on: July 24, 2013, 05:56:00 PM »
@libre,,you found a way round that problem?am i reading correct?thers ways round the 2nd law thermo with electromagneto systems indeed yes with their limited entropy states.

This process does not violate 2nd law of thermodynamics.  It simply improves generator efficiency.  It does not create energy.

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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2013, 09:36:35 PM »
@liberty nice but i just want to say that a 2nd law violation has nothing to do with creating energy,its about borrowing energy.

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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2013, 09:36:35 PM »
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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #18 on: July 26, 2013, 06:52:07 AM »
@Milehigh
Where do you see a coupling in between the shafts of motor and generator , this concept has an extra “Kinetic Energy” even the motor nor the gears are connected to the body in motion directly , the gears are inducing an elliptical movement on the body ,  when you watch the video look at the picture .

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« Reply #19 on: July 26, 2013, 06:53:03 AM »
@forest in reply to @libreenergia What  I can tell you is that in this system you really can tell that kinetic energy is being transform to electric energy and is not like other things that we really can not tell how they come to be  . Thanks for commenting .


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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #20 on: July 26, 2013, 06:53:44 AM »
@TinselKoala  I could be on my fifth cold one and still see no flywheel am I missing something ? where is the flywheel
I did not just turned the motor-generator concept  vertical it has something extra “Kinetic Energy”
And unless you can named one person who has try what is depicted in here then yes I have something new and kind of special
You talk about over unity I never did claim it , thanks to Einstein I do not believe in over unity   
Power multiplication device only if you want to see it that way  I wouldn’t even claim over 100% efficiency and still this system would give in electrical power more wattage than it is being use , that doesn’t mean over unity .  And I do believe that if every thing needed is put together  in front of any level of skilled men it would be like legos they would  figure it out and make it work no high skill level required . Thanks for your comment .

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« Reply #21 on: July 26, 2013, 06:54:36 AM »
@Low-Q  the dynamo was only for showing purposes you can not compare it to an alternator or wind power generator . I do not claim less energy input , what I claim is the use of less electrical energy on the motor , then you add up kinetic energy , then transform it to electric energy through the mechanism and you get more electric energy never ever I claim more energy itself  coming out of this system than what is involve in the same . Like I said before thanks to Einstein I do not believe in over unity . 
Thanks for your comment .


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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #22 on: July 26, 2013, 06:55:11 AM »
@FatBird  Thanks for your support .

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« Reply #23 on: July 26, 2013, 06:56:49 AM »
@Liberty Thank you . Again this is not an over unity device the mechanism uses kinetic energy to transform it to electricity that energy surpasses the loss of energy by friction heat gravity etc.


@LibreEnergia  To your first question No not a perpetual  motion device .
Then you need to leave the flywheel out of this , there is no flywheel involved in this system ,  where do you leave the kinetic energy involved in this system in your example ? Instead you should say 500watts in the motor causing movement on a body , inducing torque on a shaft , spinning a generator , powering an inverter , add all up in joules  and you’ll see there is not over unity involved and yet electric power output is more and is not a 100% efficient yet it should work .
In one of your comments you mention momentum and then you say on this one you must integrate any power measurements over the time it is applied to come up with an energy balance for the device. I’d be a fool to ask my self how much energy can fit into one second it is absurd I must say that in one cycle of this mechanism there is energy balance if you don’t leave kinetic energy out . I rather would like  you to consider this as  schrodinger's cat example with all of us inside the box some of us being vials of either poison or antidote right now until one of them breaks meaning somebody proves it right or wrong   this mechanism dose not and it dose work at the same time  , fair enough?


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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #24 on: July 26, 2013, 06:59:33 AM »
here is the link again    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1WR7OJHryM     thanks to all for watching.

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #25 on: July 26, 2013, 07:03:27 AM »
@Milehigh
Where do you see a coupling in between the shafts of motor and generator , this concept has an extra “Kinetic Energy” even the motor nor the gears are connected to the body in motion directly , the gears are inducing an elliptical movement on the body ,  when you watch the video look at the picture .


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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #26 on: July 26, 2013, 09:08:11 AM »
@Liberty Thank you . Again this is not an over unity device the mechanism uses kinetic energy to transform it to electricity that energy surpasses the loss of energy by friction heat gravity etc.


@LibreEnergia  To your first question No not a perpetual  motion device .
Then you need to leave the flywheel out of this , there is no flywheel involved in this system ,  where do you leave the kinetic energy involved in this system in your example ? Instead you should say 500watts in the motor causing movement on a body , inducing torque on a shaft , spinning a generator , powering an inverter , add all up in joules  and you’ll see there is not over unity involved and yet electric power output is more and is not a 100% efficient yet it should work .
In one of your comments you mention momentum and then you say on this one you must integrate any power measurements over the time it is applied to come up with an energy balance for the device. I’d be a fool to ask my self how much energy can fit into one second it is absurd I must say that in one cycle of this mechanism there is energy balance if you don’t leave kinetic energy out . I rather would like  you to consider this as  schrodinger's cat example with all of us inside the box some of us being vials of either poison or antidote right now until one of them breaks meaning somebody proves it right or wrong   this mechanism dose not and it dose work at the same time  , fair enough?


Ok . I won't mince words. If you are too stupid to realise that what you propose is an over-unity device (if it works as you claim) or that one needs to analyse it as the equivalent of a flywheel and a generator then you deserve all the time wasting you are about to endure trying to bring this un-workable concept to fruition.

My sincere advice.. don't waste any more time on it and learn some classical mechanics instead. Forget trying to bring quantum mechanics and Schrodinger's cat into the analysis. These kind of effects are only encountered at quantum or relativistic scales and deserve absolutely no place in describing a working principle for this device.

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #27 on: July 26, 2013, 05:32:49 PM »
LibreEnergia, I think you must don't waste your time on it, it is impossible to do something like that, it's a little like this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Le1fa9-Y48Q
It is a good big fake, this is approximately the same thing as shown above.

Try something else.

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #28 on: July 27, 2013, 08:05:44 AM »
@LibreEnergia
My apologies to you , I might have gone too far with momentum and Schrödinger’s I’m just sorry I can’t get everybody interested in this , sometimes when you see something is not worth it you just have to turn around and walk away without wasting time .
Best regards .

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Re: Self-sustained power generator
« Reply #29 on: July 27, 2013, 08:06:31 AM »
@Piced
First I do not know if that guy in the video you put a link to here is trying to prove something fake or truth I don’t understand what he says , did he hide a battery in the motor or hack a lithium ion and put it inside the cover of the wires?
Before saying that what I propose which is NOT “over unity” or “perpetual motion” is impossible or big fake why don’t you try to scientifically prove it wrong ? Up till today nobody has . And I don’t think that  what is shown in that video  resembles in any way my mechanism .

 

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