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Author Topic: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell  (Read 64224 times)

Offline markdansie

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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #105 on: August 24, 2013, 07:44:02 AM »
@pirate.im not going to show shit.i demand a salary from a one mark(darth) dansie,skeptic,then let him decide if he wants to show you my shit.


I am an open public target and am happy to receive criticism. More than a few members of this community have taken me to task at times (they were right). However please have respect for people like Bill who is one of the most decent people on the planet,  and Tinman who has everyone's respect and admiration not only here but in other circles as well.


As far as show me the money demands, i always have a show me the goods first (under NDA) Given 99.9% of all overunity claims have proven false in the past you need to have something pretty convincing. I have d=seen people in your country taken for hundreds of thousands of dollars by the free energy scam artists.  One even fooled the TUV engineer. Soto convince me........show me the data.
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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #105 on: August 24, 2013, 07:44:02 AM »

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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #106 on: August 24, 2013, 12:49:19 PM »
Mark
you are the Tip of a spear called commerce,looking for products and innovations for your own personal gain .
 
An NDA?
perhaps a 10 ft pole ?
 
 
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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #107 on: August 24, 2013, 01:57:07 PM »
@Ramset


I leave it up to the innovators and inventors if they want to go public with anything. So it is they who want an NDA.
Sometimes it is extended to a non compete. They are legal hard to enforce so in many ways it shows intent.
The reasons they want non disclosure vary for a number of reasons.
1. they want to protect their IP
2. They want to protect their identities (I am one of the few here that uses his real name)
3. Not to be embarrassed if we test what they have and find it failed or they stuffed up(most of the time)
4. To stop people bugging them (like Sterling always wants to cut a deal)


In this case if Profitis wants to show me something under NDA that's fine. I never pay to look at something. I have one inventor at the moment wants over 10 million for a look inside a device.


I normally do not charge for my advice to the many experimenters etc, unless there is a lot of travel or other expenses. If its a company I do be it a technology company or a investment company.


On this forum I share experiences and like with Rosemary Ainslie help organised a public demonstration of her technology with qualified people. If its my own knowledge and experience I freely share.  If it is some one else IP they asked to protect that is their right. I never judge.
But let me ask you, if someone sunk in 15 million dollars or sacrificed thirty years of their life they have a right to choose if they want to give it away or not.


As far as under the radar projects, some are people who do not want the like of Sterling bugging them, some involve a lot of money. However the majority are interested in bettering mankind.


My role is often to disseminate information which I am pleased to say often results in productive introductions. Just this week I introduced Tinman to an inventor who had been working on his own for many years. I am sure they will become great friends and both benefit. I will assist in other advice (non technical) and often I ma just the guy they talk to rather than talking to the wall. To people like this I give my time freely and always will.


I am no hero or angel, personally investigating these technologies has cost hundreds of thousands of dollars and away from family, so I may be a little jaded when I see BS. Fro that I am sorry and acted unprofessionally.


I hope that clarifies a few items, happy to ask any questions.


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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #107 on: August 24, 2013, 01:57:07 PM »
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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #108 on: August 24, 2013, 02:42:43 PM »
Mark
It has been my experience in life that temptation chases every man ,some are more benevolent then others however ultimately we all must eat?
 
Thats where this part needs focus [temptation].
 
When you make your living putting people together to make them or yourself money
you are the Fox in the hen house at an open source forum..........
 
To be beyond reproach would require an attitude such as Stephan Hartman has... no "business interest" or connections to industry and the "profit" machine.
I am not saying he is perfect ,what I am saying is this needs to be a Service, a calling to complete dedication with no "strings" attached!
 
Those Strings quickly become a web...........
 
 
 
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Chet
 
 
 

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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #109 on: August 24, 2013, 03:33:10 PM »
@markdansie,personaly i wouldnt want an n.d.a.,just the 2year salary,collabaration of research with whomever.if the interested party wanted an n.d.a. i would be happy to oblige.n.d.a,s are worthless most of the time anyways in my opinion.of course i would gladly show the party the goods,knowing that they will keep me very closeby for the next 2years non-stop,and probably sign me on for another 2years after that.ive contributed already a great deal to the quest for overunity here,e.g.explaining clearly the secrets of self-sustaining gaseous electrodes.judging by the number of inbox congratulations i get from viewers i know i have given something worthwhile here and will continue to do so.

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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #109 on: August 24, 2013, 03:33:10 PM »
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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #110 on: August 24, 2013, 03:51:47 PM »
@ramset..i agree 100% regarding stefan hartman and i can tell you that he himself is totaly openminded to the limitations of certain 'laws' of physics.ive noticed particulary the germans in general have a very sharp knowledge on whats going down in unspoken realities and many are truly heroic in my opinion.

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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #111 on: August 24, 2013, 06:57:16 PM »
Sigh........
Profitis
The Germans are not the only ones with exotic Engineering Feats
 
http://www.topgear.com/uk/videos/tiny-apeel
 
Taking the Car to work in England.........
thx
Chet

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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #112 on: August 25, 2013, 02:53:14 AM »

 
When you make your living putting people together to make them or yourself money
you are the Fox in the hen house at an open source forum..........
 
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thx
Chet


i do not profit in anyway from the introductions, other than  building up networking. Normally it is for technical help or other advice. Sometimes some great friendships have been formed. many inventors and experimenters work in isolation and just want to talk to people who they can trust. That is hard to find.
Its ab it like when I meet at a conference people who we often form great friendships and benefit from information provided by each other. Rarely do I do anything for business reasons in forums.
In Profitis case here he wants to profit  from the information and does not want to share.his own, just take from others.he wants me to employ him, but has nothing to show even under NDA. So what am I to do.
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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #113 on: August 26, 2013, 12:52:10 AM »
no @markdansie.im willing to go all the way.lights,cameras,publicity,action.do you have the power to dispense or organise a salary and do you have the ability to organise fast-pace research&development. do you have the will to do such unusual things.

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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #114 on: August 26, 2013, 03:16:29 AM »
PROFIT IS
 
Thats what he does.......
 
A match made in heaven!!
 
Good luck on the "Networking" excursion which you are about to embark on!
 
 
Thx
Chet

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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #115 on: August 26, 2013, 04:20:57 AM »
@ramset..i have some faith in markdansie.let him send the n.d.a. Let him make a  story of it if he still wants to.i want a story.a big story

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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #116 on: August 26, 2013, 04:23:43 AM »
@ramset..i have some faith in markdansie.let him send the n.d.a. Let him make a  story of it if he still wants to.i want a story.a big story

It is just that... a "story" and Mark has heard plenty of those already. Haven't we all?

Best of luck to you on whatever it is that you think you might be doing.

Bill

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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #117 on: August 26, 2013, 04:33:03 AM »
PROFIT IS
 
Thats what he does.......
 
A match made in heaven!!
 
Good luck on the "Networking" excursion which you are about to embark on!
 
 
Thx
Chet
Cant see that happening chet lol.
Some just dont like the "no BS" people like Mark,simply because they know they will catch them out.
Now what profitis wants is to be setup for reserch and development,where as people like us first show a working device(known as a prototype),and then we find the funds for reserch and development.
Would you buy a vehicle unseen and untested?-not even a pic of said vehicle?.
Why would profitis offer me $10,000 to build the karpen pile battery,when he could spen $500.00,and build it him self?-dont tell me you dont question that???.

TOOOOO much blah blah blah,and not enough building to prove concept,and im done with it.
There are those here(and on other forums) that you listen to,and know are there to help(without the want for cash),and there are those that are nothing but endless talk,that will contribute nothing to this free energy comunity, other than to fill up a thread with nothing but unfounded theoreticle claims,and armchair physics.
When you have been in the game long enough(like Mark),you can sniff out the BS a mile away.
Theoreticle build's are like theoreticle money in your pocket-you cant purchase anything at the store with money that just isnt there,unless ofcourse you just want to buy some theoreticle goodies.But when you get home,you have exactly what you left with--a whole lot of nothing.

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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #118 on: August 26, 2013, 04:56:14 AM »
@tinman sometimes just one spark is all it takes brother.no disrespect,ive seen enough to know what im talking about.@pirate a story indeed.non-fiction part of the library,but thanks anyway.

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Re: Agha Waqar running Car on his HHO Fuel Cell
« Reply #119 on: August 26, 2013, 10:34:23 AM »
no @markdansie.im willing to go all the way.lights,cameras,publicity,action.do you have the power to dispense or organise a salary and do you have the ability to organise fast-pace research&development. do you have the will to do such unusual things.
go look up my CV sometime lol
I do and can, but I do not deal with vaporware, unless you have a couple of PH'ds and a stellar research career
kind regards

 

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