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Title: self charging electric car
Post by: dreamyear on July 10, 2013, 03:24:58 PM
self charging electric car  ( working prototype )



capacitor caputres back emf and dishcarge to battery[/li]


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM0BFn4Fzkc (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yM0BFn4Fzkc)
Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: FatBird on July 10, 2013, 04:14:43 PM
Is there anybody that can post a Better schematic?


The one in the video is fuzzy & blurry.


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Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: truesearch on July 10, 2013, 04:34:44 PM
The looks downright scary with all those wires and "stuff". . . .  :o


I'm not saying he has something working or not but it APPEARS like there are 3 batteries (small one on the floor) plus the one that has the schematic paper laying on it plus the one "behind" it that is mostly covered with the pink blankie. . .


With all the wire clutter I'd first be suspicious of some power being fed in from somewhere else.


However, if we could have a clear diagram (like Fatbird asks) it shouldn't be difficult for some of us to duplicate.


truesearch
Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: markdansie on July 10, 2013, 04:52:54 PM
Its the battery effect, he is actually stuffing his batteries up. Seen it dozens of times.
mark
Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: dreamyear on July 10, 2013, 05:06:10 PM

you can look at my previous video..  [size=78%]http://www.youtube.com/user/dreamyear/videos (http://www.youtube.com/user/dreamyear/videos)[/size]


capturing back emf is simple but discarge on same battery is tricky.


that's why i used relay.    transistor can not be used here...


if u have any question.......comment on youtube.









The looks downright scary with all those wires and "stuff". . . .  :o


I'm not saying he has something working or not but it APPEARS like there are 3 batteries (small one on the floor) plus the one that has the schematic paper laying on it plus the one "behind" it that is mostly covered with the pink blankie. . .


With all the wire clutter I'd first be suspicious of some power being fed in from somewhere else.


However, if we could have a clear diagram (like Fatbird asks) it shouldn't be difficult for some of us to duplicate.


truesearch
Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: dreamyear on July 10, 2013, 05:15:32 PM

it's really simple........ i u have question... comment on youtube.





Is there anybody that can post a Better schematic?


The one in the video is fuzzy & blurry.


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Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: e2matrix on July 10, 2013, 06:50:10 PM
I commend your diligence in trying to get more out of batteries but I think you may be fooling yourself about actually having a self charging device.   The higher voltage on the battery does not always mean higher capacity.   Does the voltage stay higher as seen in the video if the battery rests for about 24 hours?   You say it won't run forever.   Of course not but can it run for a couple weeks without needing an external charger to bring the batteries back up?   Do the batteries run a motor that moves the 'car' or are they just running the motor that has a cam which triggers the relay?   
Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: FatBird on July 10, 2013, 08:00:05 PM

This man had an Electric Car too, but they done him in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeKnDxWRHYI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeKnDxWRHYI)

Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: markdansie on July 11, 2013, 12:24:26 AM
@ Fatbird, they actually confessed in latter years it was fake.
How did you miss that one.
@Matrix, you are correct
e, but it can do for a while.
The spike either desulfates of changes the plate architecture.(increases reaction area.
This is great for a short while.
This current device is not unlike many motor generators. The higher voltage does not indicate greater battery storage
Mark
Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: profitis on July 11, 2013, 01:31:42 AM
surface area changes may be happening but the important factor here is total power.the advantage of using lead-acid bats is that one can guage the total power in the bat by measuring the sulphuric acid concentration in the electrolyte.if it goes up more than you started with or stays same you have a nobel prize.a highly sensitive ph meter suitable for high acid concentrations will be useful.a highly sensitive conductivity measurement of the electrolyte will do aswell.a direct chemical test for sulfate ion concentration is another opt(you need some lead nitrate for this)
Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: markdansie on July 11, 2013, 01:55:45 AM
@Profitis
Hi mate I might look at this which is similar why I am here
So I want you to design the tests lol.
http://revolution-green.com/2013/07/10/self-looped-motor-generator-philippines/ (http://revolution-green.com/2013/07/10/self-looped-motor-generator-philippines/)


Kind reagards

Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: profitis on July 11, 2013, 02:23:43 AM
hi mark.i hope he has open-type lead acid cells so that you can take a hydrometer along with you and spot-test the specific gravity of electrolyte in each compartment before and after a nice long run.hydrometers should be cheaply available at the local garages.if those are closed-type cells we gona hav 2 figure a other way or you could ask him to hook it up to open lead-acids 4 the analysis
Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: profitis on July 11, 2013, 03:05:35 AM
@markdansie..another very smart way to test lead-acid systems is to get hold of some lead nitrate crystals,disolve in water(20-30 %),half-fill 2 equal size test-tubes,add 5 drops of test-sample battery acid to one testube prior to run.add 5 drops of acid to other testube after run.let testubes sit deadstill for few hours uprite and chek volume differences of lead sulfate precipitate btween the two.if its same or if more volume in testube 2 its nobel prize.if its less in testube 2 than testube 1 then time wasted. 
Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: AetherSea on July 11, 2013, 05:07:03 AM
This man had an Electric Car too, but they done him in.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeKnDxWRHYI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jeKnDxWRHYI)

Fatbird

Nobody did him in.   Troy Reed was a liar and admitted himself in 1999 that the motor was not self sustaining.  Another scammer that tooks thousands of investor dollars.  The electric car had so many batteries in the trunk it barely cleared the ground.

http://peswiki.com/index.php/Directory:Surge_Motor_Technology_by_Troy_Reed
Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 17, 2014, 08:31:36 AM
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Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: lancaIV on January 17, 2014, 02:21:18 PM
There are some questions about a "self charging electric car" :


how many percents can be recaptured ? ( conventional waste feedback: 25%)


Energy/charge accumulation by battery or capacitor ? (ultra-battery)


How much energy and finally power do you think your drive-style will need ?
Acceleration -50Km/h  -80Km/h


car weight ?
light urban-car also called commuter


Sincerely
              OCWL




   
Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: Tito L. Oracion on January 19, 2014, 09:20:33 AM
done!!! ;)


There is actually much easier than this adams motor. ;)
Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: wings on January 19, 2014, 10:24:57 AM
done!!! ;)


There is actually much easier than this adams motor. ;)
I see similarity with this:
Title: Re: self charging electric car
Post by: lancaIV on January 19, 2014, 02:38:19 PM
To think about the internal-combustion engine to electric car conversion:

http://www.evalbum.com/motor (http://www.evalbum.com/motor)
Citing:" Gas engines are rated at their peak hp, electric motors are rated at their continuous hp. The peak hp of an electric motor is usually 8 to 10 times its continuous rating."  Citing end

  instead a 50hp ic-engine 1 gear mechanism with 4x 500W electric motors :

http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1 (http://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=0&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=20001020&CC=FR&NR=2792258A1&KC=A1)


Ce dispositif équipé de quatre moteurs de 500* wats,soit 2000 wats, avec une gestion électronique,est susceptible des mêmes performances de couple et de puissance qu'un moteur thermique de 50 ch,tout en assurant les services annexes dont le chauffage et le préchauffage du véhicule.5
                                                                    :o 8) ???
                    La consommation moyenne est de l'ordre de IOOO wats heure.

500*: correction instead 300Wat(t) as written in the original document

                               Silly  ;D  ,ridiculos,idea ?


http://regbrvfr.inpi.fr/register/application?lng=en&number=FR9904692 (http://regbrvfr.inpi.fr/register/application?lng=en&number=FR9904692)
       :)  The inventor Michel Porquer got his idea 15.06.2001 granted !  :)
 

                     But since several years,2006-, "open source" !  ::)


                          it would be an ideal urban car-share project

                 As electric motor I would actually prefer the  Shkondin solution:
                  https://www.google.de/#q=shkondin+electric+drive (https://www.google.de/#q=shkondin+electric+drive)
                efficient,feedback cycle included and comercial available


His e-motor-genset -in development-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93VUxl0cD94
could be later the e-source