anybody here tried replicating the MEG?

it doesnt seem like it would be that hard to make, the only difficulty i guess would be the core material.

although i read that even with a normal core metal you could still achieve a COP of around 2.

they also seem to have trouble closing the loop. why not just have for example 2 caps, and switch them when the other reaches a full charge?

 

thanks - Kane

Hi Guy's,

? ?As a matter of fact I have been talking to Stefan about the new highly modified version of a MEG type unit which Stefan calculated to be putting out 268 Watts by using a hand held portable CD player as the input. This is nothing compared to what my multimeter is reading from higher db audio sources. Yes, I am using strickly sound as the input energy, and getting quite a bit of power out of the unit. As I have said, it is highly modified and is much different from the original MEG design. I call this device the HOPE Generator or (Harmonic Oscillating Power Electric) Generator. Stefan has been writing me asking for information but this is all brand new stuff and I haven't had time to bring the unit in to the expert's in order to test my readings to see if they are all correct. My multimeter is a $250 digital unit, almost brand new, and reads everything else accurately so I guess we'll have to see after we put the unit through the ringer with some top engineer's. If you know where Stefan posted the info., please let me know so I can see what he posted alright?

Cheers,

J.D.

Hey Bushwhacker:
   Do you have a schematic for the circuit you are refering to?  I have been messing around
with pulse motors and such so have been collecting some epuipment. One thing I have now
is a frequency meter and an audio tone generator from the spare parts store. I am interested
in just how much over this can go. Tom said his meg was capable of powering the world if done
right and I think it can. Let me know.

Sugra

Dear Jim,

I am observing this discussion for some time and I like to contribute some thougts here which are based
on a background of over 25 years in observing patterns in the evolution of activities and events ( both socially and indivually ) which wrap around 
inventions of this kind. As an outstanding example I bring to your attention an invention which first was published 1992 in a german sientific magazin
called "Bild der Wissenschaft" ( picture or sience ), the so called "Graetzel-Solar-Cell" named by the inventor Mr. Michael Gr?tzel from pysical/chemical department of the ETH-Lausanne.
( Technical University). He discovered and developed a cheap solar-call based on Titanium-Oxide in combination with certain colour-elements. The respective electrolyte-colour-titaniumoxide-combination
is applied as a fluid on a metal-sheeted glas and tempered at about 600 degress celsius thus forming a cheap semiconducting surface which is sensitive to the solar spectrum.
I will not go into more technical details here. From this year on I obsereved what happened. Mr. Gr?tzel sold the licence to a Innovation-Institut-Organisation in Germany (INAP = Institute of applied photovoltaic) and in 1999 I phoned them to find out about the progress
of the development. I have the answer here in my files. They said to the effect that they are in the progress of developing the production-technique/line. But remember there have been already 7 years passed by. Last time I had a look for it was in may 2005. Another 6 years passed by and still the
say on their homepage that they prepare to bring this technique to production-level. Now 13 years of development and still now result - this cannot be !

So what happended : This Institut draws money supplied by german taxpayers from the german goverment since 13 !! years whithout any result. They just use a valuable and promising technology as an alibi to feed themselves on tax-money provided by certain laws manifested by the green political party.
So Jim I like you to know this : The moment an investor team shows up for your invention you are liable to fall into the same pattern. The technique will be lost because the managers of such companies are not interested to bring this out to the public, it serves only their own purpose.

So do what you will but this is what I know. The pattern is not a german-specific one. Its world-wide. The same goes with the "GIFNET". I discovered that Naudine uses a 20 Kilowatt Radio-Transmitting Tube in his newest experiment. The data he presented are very doubious. Suddenly he is the director of a new institute called GIFNET
using Kofi Annan as an eye-catcher.

The best would be to make your technique open to the public, because you will not be able to make money out of it. Most of the history of inventors ( even Tesla ) prooves this.

Regards

Kator01

Hi Guy's,


     Not to sound as though I'm trying to kiss any butt's here, however you are all absolutely correct in your observation's and statement's. I've been involved in this field going on 33yrs. now myself, and I know that it would be stupid to try and approach these matters by the same method that everyone else keeps trying. I also believe that we all need to be truthful about all of the details of alleged FE/AE devices/technologies and have also observed that most inventor's seem to insist on keeping secret's connected with their invention's. I do intend to finish the instruction manual for the HOPE generator, but there is only so much time in a day, and my time has been almost totally consumed with many more important things until now. I have also been left alone to take care of my elderly mother by my father-in-law these past couple of weeks because he wanted to take a trip and go out to play. He is aware of how much I have to do, and the importance of what I am trying to accomplish, yet he values his play time more than he worries about what the cost may actually be. Human nature is the thing which I see being more of a problem than anything else with our world, and very few people are willing to sacrifice anything for others. I understand this problem extremely well but there is little I can do about the choices that anyone else makes, and yet we all suffer from the actions and choices everyone makes. I have given so much away already of which others have taken credit for that nobody can know just how much I have given. Believe me, I know exactly what is going on in every respect, and I also know exactly what I am doing. My strategy has not been developed over-night, and throughout the last 30+ years I too have been observing closely the way everything operates. Bearden is keeping some secret's because he still believes that he is going to become filthy rich if he can secure his MEG tech. The problem however is that the way the political-business-media cartel operates he will never fullfill his fantasy of becomming the wealthiest man on earth. He is a very smart guy, and I cannot understand why he allows these delusions of grandure to fill his head with such nonsense. The HOPE generator was originally a MEG unit which was assembled according to the instructions from Naudin's web-site. However I came to the same conclusions that some of you and many other's out there have come to. That is, that either the MEG is not what it was claimed to be, or that Tom Bearden is not telling all about the MEG. Thats when I decided since I don't have another penney to spend on such things that I would continue to work with what I already had on hand. I began to change the design little by little and one day while I was listening to the radio I decided to see if the audio from the radio would travel through the unit or even possibly be amplified through the process of doing so. It did, and I also noticed that it produced a small electrical current at the same time. Thats when I decided to get radical and try to configure it to run on sound input. It has taken me the last two years to get to the point I am at with the design, and it is now a completely different breed or technology. I wanted to wait until I was able to get hold of a different core so that everyone wouldn't say that this is a MEG unit, but because I do want to be truthful and I do want these technologies to be made available to everyone I am jumping the gun s-t-s and telling the whole story. The MEG uses AC current as it's input source. The HOPE uses only sound/audio frequencies and my current design produces far more power than the origninal MEG design did using AC current for the input source. The wiring configuration is a novel one and is going to be the hardest part to describe, and I am not a draftsman or an electrical engineer so you will all have to excuse me for the way I will be trying to explain and describe the circuitry. I have recently made some changes with the wiring configuration and it is a bit less complicated now so that will help somewhat. I am about half-way finished with the step-by-step instructions manual and am now starting to describe this wiring configuration now. For those of you who have already built MEG units these instructions will be able to save you the cost of buying another core, and you already have the most expensive piece to the puzzle. You will have to purchase SmCo magnets if you are using any other kind right now because no other material will remain stable and will lose it's charge/field. I am planning to be making some extreme changes in both the current core materials and possible the wire coils in the next few weeks because I do not want Tom or anyone else claiming that this is a MEG unit. Right now it resembles a MEG unit to some extent because I am using the core that I originally used to try and build a MEG unit. However I am now working with a number of other's to refine and develop an industrial strength version that will be much different than what I have at this moment. As I have tried to make known already, the secret involves sound resonance, metallo-nanocrystaline materials, and most likely varying relaxation times in relation to all of the various core and wire materials involved. Each component is built and tuned to compliment the other and a high frequency resonating field is set-up. The result is a form of energy which is slightly different from typical AC current but which can be used directly to light fluorescent lights or filtered and/or converted to standard current to be used with existing electronics. I have no delusions about becomming the richest man in the world, nor do I want to be that man. I don't want to live forever on this God forsaken planet the way things are! But I do want to contribute what I can to try and help those who are in need of help, and I am doing my best to do just that. I wish that I could mention everything that is going on but because of what I am involved with I have certain agencies watching every move I make and listening to every word I say both over the phone and over the Internet. I have some friend's in some of these agencies also, and a few of these guy's have visited me in person throughout the years to let me know first hand what has been going on. I worked at the information center of a great number of black projects for about 5 years until I finally turned in my resignation due to a matter of my own conscience. I know exactly what is going on, and I have personally read and even edited some of the game plans/strategies of the NWO elite. President Reagan didn't even have a clue about the things that the Bush family and friend's had going on behind his back, and I wish I had never excepted that position because my life would have been much easier had I not. Please understand that I am doing all I can right now to get some of these technologies out to people and that I am very close to living on the streets at this time. Even though the department of Social Security has admitted that I have some serious physical disabilities the U.S., government does not want me to be able to support myself let alone prosper. I have had my life threatened face to face with military personel and warned time and again to cease and desist from speaking about any of these things. I have had to try and deal with this kind of thing for the last 26 years, it has ruined my family, my marriage, and left me with absolutely nothing to show for my efforts. On top of it all I can't even begin to tell the half of the story or I would be locked up immediately and never seen again. I know how important it is to get FE technologies out to the public however the powers that be also know what this would mean to their power structure. It's not easy trying to change the world by yourself, especially when up until a couple of years ago you were living in the Arizona desert and eating cactuss just to survive. I believe that the only reason that I am still alive is so that I can donate something to this world, and I am doing my best with what I have. Things are looking up lately, and in just the last month I have met with a half dozen people who are willing to help to get some of these technologies out to the people. I am not trying to get patents for anything, and I know that it is simply stupid to try. If I survive through the next year and have anything to say about it all there will be a number of new technologies coming out soon, but I cannot do it all by myself and I need other's who are willing to help. Human nature got us all into this soup, and we will have to overcome our natural tendancy's towards selfishness if we are going to get out of this mess. I've already taken dangerous steps by speaking out on many things and you simply would not believe some of the things certain agencies have been doing to try and scare me into silence once again. I just hope I haven't spoken in vain, and that my action's are wasted on people who aren't going to lift a finger for the cause. That has been my experience throughout the last 30+ years and I fail to see how things have changed since then. Even so, I will work on the manual for the HOPE during these next couple of weeks and try to get them distributed as soon as possible. I will hold nothing back and will be completely forthright and try to supply everything in detail. Just remember that these instructions will be describing the assembly using the same core material as is recommended to build Bearden's MEG unit, but that it is actually a different animal. Future HOPE tech will look much different than this but for now considering the need I am willing to listen to all the confused arguments about it being a MEG unit. It doesn't matter to me who you credit with the discovery really, as long as you make use of the information and try to improve on the concept. Like I have said before, we all need to toss our false ego's aside and make some sacrifice's if this world is ever going to change for the better people. Give me a couple of weeks, and you should have your information. BTW, the name "BushWacker" is descriptive of what we all need to be. The Bush family is one of the NWO elitest families, and papa Bush who would have been the very person who would have ordered the direct threats to my life and the lives of my entire family. The only reason that  I am still here is because of the many good guy's in within some of our agencies who have been watching my back. I tried to tell Gene Mallove this in 2002 but he did not take me seriously when I warned him to be careful. Gee Dubya just signed another big oil deal yesterday to increase the size of his and Cheney's wallet's. I don't know how much money any sane person needs in order to be satisfied, but it's pretty obvious that there is nothing sane about the Bush family or Cheney for that matter. Hang in there guy's, I'll be getting back to you all soon with the HOPE manual.


Best Regards,

BushWacker

Hi Bush ...

I was wondering that as your HOPE generator is creating so much energy "Yes, I am using strickly sound as the input energy, and getting quite a bit of power out of the unit." that would it be possible to run the audio input device, the CD player from the output of the HOPE device thus creating a contained regenerating stand alone unit that is not powered by external mains or batteries ?
I am very interested in this technology, but not being too scientifically minded am fiinding it hard to work out the principles of the machine, are there any web pages that explain this idea ?, I guess you are using the magnetic force of the magnets to induce more energy into the system ?

Thanks
Ade

I built and tested several MEG devices about four years ago without seeing anything that looked even remotely like over-unity.

My cores were of ordinary inverter grade ferrite, and I used bias magnets of various field strengths to adjust the operating point around the knee in the magnetic BH loop. I have a fair bit of fairly exotic test equipment here, and was able to measure all the operating parameters, and calculate energy losses in primary, secondary and the core itself. I never measured more than about 70% of the input energy at the output. All of these losses could be accounted for using conventional transformer theory.

I am an electronic engineer with many years experience designing high frequency magnetic components for switchmode power supplies. The MEG made me curious, because there is no obvious way in which it could possibly work, and it is a fairly simple thing to copy from the pictures and details available.

The MEG has been around now for a very long time, and it doesn't surprise me that nobody else has been able to demonstrate one working either.

I led built a MEG-like amplified-magnet-force-transformer(=M.A.S.E.R.):
first test result-12V,2A in and 50V,3A out !
+/- 6:1 ratio,not very impressive versus 40:1 ratio from Keiichiro Asaoka-Model(l) !

Hi,

Do not lessen the 6:1 ratio, it is very impressive because it is fairly higher than 1:1...   So I would be very interested in your amplified- magnet-force-transformer if it is not top secret

However, you referred to Asaoka as well and I read his patent (US5,926,083) in which the 40:1 ratio is mentioned.
My opinion is that I would like to see it in practice but not in paper... 
Asaoka writes in column 5, lines 11-13: "The static magnet dynamo can be considered as a transformer if its permanent magnet is removed and there is a gap G."  This is foggy because he uses the same G like in his second magnetic path designation where there are two (small) gaps also referred to as G, (Figs 1-9).   And the 40:1 ratio is not referred to the output:input ratio but a 40 times reduction in the input power needs.  Of course this is also very significant but as I said I would like to see it in practice. What about the effect of the load current on the input power (Lenz-law)?
And his Figs 10-11 are closed magnetic path circuits and they remember me to a MEG like arrangement which is known to be NOT working for many experimenters, including myself....   These closed path circuits work like conventional transformators. What do you think?

I believe that somehow overunity can be achived but definitely not by a MEG-like arrangement referred to above where a normal transformer action prevail, here I fully agree with Warpspeed.

Regards
Gyula