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Offline tinu

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Re: Aether Displacement
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2013, 07:34:34 PM »
 @ mpc755,


Interesting thoughts!
 
Please expand on “Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter” and how exactly it can lead to generally/qualitatively explaining (and, if possible, quantitatively describing) gravity. I’m thinking in particular at Kepler’s laws (including the ‘infinite propagation speed’) but also to the problem of three aligned bodies that any theory of gravity as a pressure force is having issues in dealing with it.
 
As for double split experiment, please develop on the action of the associated wave upon a particle exiting from a slit, the same particle that generated the wave in the first place. Is the associated wave reflected by matter? What would be the laws of propagation for those waves? I would be happy to hear your answer in the good&simple boat-wave analogy but keeping in mind that the analogy can not ultimately hold water since a particle/photon etc. could not emit continuous energetic waves without slowing down (or could it?). 
 
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« Reply #16 on: July 25, 2013, 07:39:01 PM »
aha @mpc..aether displacement is one of many ways to perceive reality,sure,but it might have shortcomings.

Aether displacement is the most correct way to perceive reality to date. As correct as perceiving reality as Earth rotates on its axis and orbits the Sun.

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an interesting test might be to shoot  electrons at a double slit and see if we get similar results to steinberg.

Of course we will. The stronger you detect the particle the stronger you destroy the coherence between the particle and its associated aether displacement wave.

In a boat double slit experiment the boat travels through a single slit and the bow wave passes through both. As the bow wave exits the slits it creates wave interference which alters the direction the boat travels. Placing pylons at the exits to the slits knocks the boat around and cuts the bow wave into smaller, choppier waves. The coherence between the boat and its bow wave is lost and the boat continues along in the general direction it had been.

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« Reply #17 on: July 25, 2013, 11:51:49 PM »
@ mpc755,


Interesting thoughts!
 
Please expand on “Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter” and how exactly it can lead to generally/qualitatively explaining (and, if possible, quantitatively describing) gravity. I’m thinking in particular at Kepler’s laws (including the ‘infinite propagation speed’) but also to the problem of three aligned bodies that any theory of gravity as a pressure force is having issues in dealing with it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect#Vacuum_energy

"a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position"

A 'field' in physics is space filled with aether and the strength of the field is the displacement of the aether from its rest position.

Each of the plates in the Casimir effect displace the aether. The displaced aether which exists between the plates is pushing back toward each of the plates which causes the force associated with the aether displaced by each of the plates which exists between the plates to offset. This aether is more at rest than the aether which is displaced by the plates which encompasses the plates. The reduced force associated with the aether which exists between the plates along with the displaced aether which encompasses the plates which is pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the plates causes the plates to be forced together.

What occurs physically in nature in the Casimir effect is the same phenomenon as gravity.

There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Aether has mass and physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

The following are the two best articles I have found. I have a bunch of other articles I found at arxiv.org which discuss gravitational aether. I can post those if you would like.

'Comment on the higher derivative Lagrangians in relativistic theory'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.5759.pdf

"The relativistic theory of an Aether was discussed several time, see for e.g. [8], [9]. In this paper, our hypothesis is different and gives a relativistic theory of the deformation of continuous media (for which the geometry is described by the metric field)."

The Milky Way's halo is the deformation of continuous media. The Milky Way's halo is curved spacetime. The Milky Way's halo is evidence of the correctness of relativity. The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether.

'Fluidic Electrodynamics: On parallels between electromagnetic and fluidic inertia'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1202.4611

"It is shown that the force exerted on a particle by an ideal fluid produces two effects: i) resistance to acceleration and, ii) an increase of mass with velocity. ... The interaction between the particle and the entrained space flow gives rise to the observed properties of inertia and the relativistic increase of mass. ... Accordingly, in this framework the non resistance of a particle in uniform motion through an ideal fluid (D’Alembert’s paradox) corresponds to Newton’s first law. The law of inertia suggests that the physical vacuum can be modeled as an ideal fluid, agreeing with the space-time ideal fluid approach from general relativity."

The relativistic mass of an object is the mass of the object and the mass of the aether connected to and neighboring the object which is displaced by the object. The faster an object moves with respect to the state of the aether in which it exists the greater the displacement of the aether by the object the greater the relativistic mass of the object.

The relativistic mass of the Milky Way is the mass of the Milky Way and the mass of the aether connected to and neighboring the Milky Way which is displaced by the matter the Milky Way consists of.

The relativistic mass of the Milky Way accounts for the speed at which the matter in the Milky Way moves.
 
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As for double split experiment, please develop on the action of the associated wave upon a particle exiting from a slit, the same particle that generated the wave in the first place. Is the associated wave reflected by matter? What would be the laws of propagation for those waves? I would be happy to hear your answer in the good&simple boat-wave analogy but keeping in mind that the analogy can not ultimately hold water since a particle/photon etc. could not emit continuous energetic waves without slowing down (or could it?). 
 
Best regards,
Tinu

The aether is, or behaves similar to, a supersolid.

Q. Does the particle displace the aether or does the aether displace the particle?
A. Both occur simultaneously with equal force.

'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory - Louis de BROGLIE'
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

“When in 1923-1924 I had my first ideas about Wave Mechanics I was looking for a truly concrete physical image, valid for all particles, of the wave and particle coexistence discovered by Albert Einstein in his "Theory of light quanta". I had no doubt whatsoever about the physical reality of waves and particles.”

“any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous “energetic contact” with a hidden medium”

The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the aether. The “energetic contact” is the state of displacement of the aether.

"For me, the particle, precisely located in space at every instant, forms on the v wave a small region of high energy concentration, which may be likened in a first approximation, to a moving singularity."

A particle is a moving singularity which has an associated aether displacement wave.

In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined path which takes it through one slit. The associated wave in the aether passes through both. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Detecting the particle strongly exiting a single slit destroys the coherence between the particle and its associated wave in the aether.

What ripples when galaxy clusters collide is what waves in a double slit experiment; the aether.

Einstein's gravitational wave is de Broglie's pilot-wave. Both are waves in the aether.

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Re: Aether Displacement
« Reply #18 on: August 07, 2013, 06:18:34 PM »
'Astronomers create largest map yet of dark matter's web'
http://www.today.com/id/45928302/ns/today-today_tech/t/astronomers-create-largest-map-yet-dark-matters-web/

""It is fascinating to be able to 'see' the dark matter using space-time distortion," said Ludovic Van Waerbeke of the University of British Columbia."

Ludovic is close to correctly understanding what occurs physically in nature.

Dark matter is not using space-time distortion. Dark matter is the space-time distortion.

There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter.

Aether has mass, physically occupies three dimensional space and is physically displaced by particles of matter.

Space-time distortion is referred to in the following article as the deformation of continuous media.

'Comment on the higher derivative Lagrangians in relativistic theory'
http://arxiv.org/pdf/1305.5759.pdf

"The relativistic theory of an Aether was discussed several time, see for e.g. [8], [9]. In this paper, our hypothesis is different and gives a relativistic theory of the deformation of continuous media (for which the geometry is described by the metric field)."

The Milky Way's halo is the deformation of continuous media. The Milky Way's halo is the distortion of space-time. The Milky Way's halo is evidence of the correctness of relativity. The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether.

'Fluidic Electrodynamics: On parallels between electromagnetic and fluidic inertia'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1202.4611

"It is shown that the force exerted on a particle by an ideal fluid produces two effects: i) resistance to acceleration and, ii) an increase of mass with velocity. ... The interaction between the particle and the entrained space flow gives rise to the observed properties of inertia and the relativistic increase of mass. ... Accordingly, in this framework the non resistance of a particle in uniform motion through an ideal fluid (D’Alembert’s paradox) corresponds to Newton’s first law. The law of inertia suggests that the physical vacuum can be modeled as an ideal fluid, agreeing with the space-time ideal fluid approach from general relativity."

The relativistic mass of an object is the mass of the object and the mass of the aether connected to and neighboring the object which is displaced by the object. The faster an object moves with respect to the state of the aether in which it exists the greater the displacement of the aether by the object the greater the relativistic mass of the object.

The relativistic mass of the Milky Way is the mass of the Milky Way and the mass of the aether connected to and neighboring the Milky Way which is displaced by the matter the Milky Way consists of.

The relativistic mass of the Milky Way accounts for the speed at which the matter in the Milky Way moves.

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Re: Aether Displacement
« Reply #19 on: August 08, 2013, 03:43:46 PM »
'Astronomers create largest map yet of dark matter's web'
http://www.today.com/id/45928302/ns/today-today_tech/t/astronomers-create-largest-map-yet-dark-matters-web/

""It is fascinating to be able to 'see' the dark matter using space-time distortion," said Ludovic Van Waerbeke of the University of British Columbia."

Dark matter is what is being distorted. Otherwise known as the aether. Aether has mass.

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Re: Aether Displacement
« Reply #20 on: August 09, 2013, 05:18:53 PM »
'Q criterion for disc stability modified by external tidal field'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1308.1754

"We have studied the local stability of an astrophysical disc supported by rotation and random motion, under the influence of an external gravitational tidal field."

What is referred to as the "external gravitational tidal field" is the state of displacement of the aether.

Aether has mass, physically occupies three dimensional space and is physically displaced by particles of matter. Displaced aether pushes back and exerts inward pressure toward matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave. In a double slit experiment the particle travels through a single slit and the associated wave in the aether passes through both.

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Re: Aether Displacement
« Reply #21 on: August 10, 2013, 09:09:57 PM »
@MPC755, a few questions for you:
 
How would you describe the effect of magnetism on the aether?
 
Do magnetic lines of force actually act upon the aether, either intensifying its gravitational pressure (mag attraction) or lessening/nullifying its grav pressure (mag repulsion)?
 
In the case of a magnetic pulse, do you think the abrupt emergence of lines of magnetic force momentarily displace the aether, causing it to push back in the form of a wave?
 
Would the same be true also with a sharp high voltage spike (and is it not so much the voltage causing the aether to push back in wave form on a circuit, but rather the associated magnetic field's abrupt rise and fall)?
 
I am intrigued by your take on the aether, and hope you'll be able to answer these questions and perhaps a few more.
 
Regards,
Bob
 
 

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« Reply #22 on: August 10, 2013, 10:48:01 PM »
@MPC755, a few questions for you:
 
How would you describe the effect of magnetism on the aether?
 
Do magnetic lines of force actually act upon the aether, either intensifying its gravitational pressure (mag attraction) or lessening/nullifying its grav pressure (mag repulsion)?
 
In the case of a magnetic pulse, do you think the abrupt emergence of lines of magnetic force momentarily displace the aether, causing it to push back in the form of a wave?
 
Would the same be true also with a sharp high voltage spike (and is it not so much the voltage causing the aether to push back in wave form on a circuit, but rather the associated magnetic field's abrupt rise and fall)?
 
I am intrigued by your take on the aether, and hope you'll be able to answer these questions and perhaps a few more.
 
Regards,
Bob

"In several parts of this treatise an attempt has been made to explain electromagnetic phenomena by means of mechanical action transmitted from one body to another by means of a medium occupying the space between them. The undulatory theory of light also assumes the existence of a medium. We have now to shew that the properties of the electromagnetic medium are identical with those of the luminiferous medium." - Maxwell

Maxwell's displacement current is a physical displacement of the aether.

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity - Albert Einstein'
http://www.tu-harburg.de/rzt/rzt/it/Ether.html

"Since according to our present conceptions the elementary particles of matter are also, in their essence, nothing else than condensations of the electromagnetic field"

The electromagnetic field is a state of the aether. Particles of matter are condensations of aether.

'DOES THE INERTIA OF A BODY DEPEND UPON ITS ENERGY-CONTENT?' A. EINSTEIN
http://www.fourmilab.ch/etexts/einstein/E_mc2/e_mc2.pdf

"If a body gives off the energy L in the form of radiation, its mass diminishes by L/c2."

The mass of the body does diminish. However, the matter which no longer exists as part of the body has not vanished; it still exists, as aether. Matter evaporates into aether. As matter evaporates into aether it expands into neighboring places; which is energy. Mass is conserved.

When a nuclear bomb explodes matter evaporates into aether. The evaporation is energy. Mass is conserved.

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« Reply #23 on: August 21, 2013, 02:49:10 PM »
Q. What do you call dark matter which fills inter-galactic space? Where it extends beyond galaxies to great distances without cutoff?
A. Aether. Aether has mass.

Inter-galactic space is filled with aether.

'Matter Distribution around Galaxies'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1105.3005

"We showed that the galaxy has no clear edges in the dark matter distribution, unlike luminous matter, which should be bounded by the cooling radius. The distribution is extended beyond the virial radius in an organised way halfway to the neighbouring galaxy, so that the Universe is filled with the material associated with tails of galaxies, and we then call the peaks of the matter distribution galaxies. Inter-galactic space is filled with matter. Tails of galaxies extend to great distances without cutoff, whereas luminous component of galaxies have definite cutoff radius corresponding to the cooling radius."

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« Reply #24 on: August 23, 2013, 04:33:53 PM »
'Casimir Dark Energy, Stabilization of the Extra Dimensions and Gauss-Bonnet Term'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1308.4802

"In order to restore the stabilizing mechanism, the modified Casimir dark energy model is investigated by adding the aether field into the model [18]. The effects of the aether field in the higher-dimensional spacetime are investigated in and one of the results in four-dimensional spacetime is that it will decrease the slope of the effective potential. In other words, it reduces the force acting on the radion field during matter-dominated period. Thus the radion field slowly rolls down at the beginning time and it has enough time for waiting the existence of the potential minimum at the late-time. This leads to the stabilization of the extra dimensions eventually. Unfortunately, the form of aether field which can provide this viable model is not stable."

The 'instability' is most likely due to the nonsense of quantum fluctuations and virtual particles. If mainstream physics was able to understand aether has mass then it would understand that the aether field is stable.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casimir_effect#Vacuum_energy

"a "field" in physics may be envisioned as if space were filled with interconnected vibrating balls and springs, and the strength of the field can be visualized as the displacement of a ball from its rest position"

A 'field' in physics is space filled with aether and the strength of the field is the displacement of the aether from its relative rest position.

Each of the plates in the Casimir effect displace the aether. The displaced aether which exists between the plates is pushing back toward each of the plates which causes the force associated with the aether displaced by each of the plates which exists between the plates to offset. This aether is more at rest than the aether which is displaced by the plates which encompasses the plates. The reduced force associated with the aether which exists between the plates along with the displaced aether which encompasses the plates which is pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward the plates causes the plates to be forced together.

What occurs physically in nature in the Casimir effect is the same phenomenon as gravity.

There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Aether has mass and physically occupies three dimensional space. Aether is physically displaced by matter.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

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« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2013, 06:37:14 AM »
Aether has mass, physically occupies three dimensional space and is physically displaced by particles of matter. Particles of matter exist in and displace the aether. There is no such thing as non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter. Matter moves thorugh and displaces the aether.

A moving particle has an associated aether displacement wave.

'When Fluid Dynamics Mimic Quantum Mechanics'
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130729111934.htm

"When the waves are confined to a circular corral, they reflect back on themselves, producing complex patterns (grey ripples) that steer the droplet in an apparently random trajectory (white line). But in fact, the droplet’s motion follows statistical patterns determined by the wavelength of the waves. (Credit: Dan Harris)"

"If you have a system that is deterministic and is what we call in the business 'chaotic,' or sensitive to initial conditions, sensitive to perturbations, then it can behave probabilistically," Milewski continues. "Experiments like this weren't available to the giants of quantum mechanics. They also didn't know anything about chaos. Suppose these guys -- who were puzzled by why the world behaves in this strange probabilistic way -- actually had access to experiments like this and had the knowledge of chaos, would they have come up with an equivalent, deterministic theory of quantum mechanics, which is not the current one? That's what I find exciting from the quantum perspective."

'Interpretation of quantum mechanics by the double solution theory - Louis de BROGLIE'
http://aflb.ensmp.fr/AFLB-classiques/aflb124p001.pdf

"I think that when this interpretation is further elaborated, extended, and eventually modified in some of its aspects, it will lead to a better understanding of the true coexistence of waves and particles about which actual Quantum mechanics only gives statistical information, often correct, but in my opinion incomplete."

“any particle, even isolated, has to be imagined as in continuous “energetic contact” with a hidden medium”

The hidden medium of de Broglie wave mechanics is the aether. The “energetic contact” is the state of displacement of the aether.

"For me, the particle, precisely located in space at every instant, forms on the v wave a small region of high energy concentration, which may be likened in a first approximation, to a moving singularity."

A particle may be likened in a first approximation to a moving singularity which has an associated aether displacement wave.

"the particle is defined as a very small region of the wave"

In a double slit experiment the particle travels a well defined path which takes it through one slit. The associated wave in the aether passes through both. As the aether wave exits the slits it creates wave interference. As the particle exits a single slit the direction it travels is altered by the wave interference. This is the wave piloting the particle of pilot-wave theory. Detecting the particle strongly exiting a single slit destroys the coherence between the particle and its associated wave in the aether.

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« Reply #26 on: September 04, 2013, 09:43:44 PM »
'On Dark Matter, Spiral Galaxies, and the Axioms of General Relativity'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1004.4016

"Einstein’s theory of general relativity was made possible by Gauss and Riemann who, decades before, began the field of mathematics now called differential geometry. Since then, advances in differential geometry have played a crucial role in understanding the implications of Einstein’s theory. Einstein used differential geometry to make the qualitative statement “matter curves spacetime” precise, thereby showing that gravity results as a consequence of this fundamental idea. In contrast, Newton’s inverse square law for gravity, while a great approximation in the low-field limit, has been shown to be false by measuring the precession of the orbit of Mercury, for example, as well as the bending of light around the Sun, which is twice what is predicted by Newtonian physics and exactly what is predicted by general relativity. Hence, understanding gravity would appear to require differential geometry. In light of this rich history of differential geometry playing a vital role in understanding gravity and the large scale structure of the universe, it seems reasonable, among other ideas, to look for geometric motivations for dark matter."

What is presently postulated as non-baryonic dark matter anchored to matter is the state of displacement of the aether.

The Milky Way's halo is curved spacetime.

The Milky Way's halo is the state of displacement of the aether.

The geometric representation of gravity as curved spacetime physically exists in nature as the state of displacement of the aether.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

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« Reply #27 on: September 05, 2013, 02:36:09 PM »
previous post continued...

'On Dark Matter, Spiral Galaxies, and the Axioms of General Relativity'
http://arxiv.org/abs/1004.4016

"f is the scalar field representing dark matter...We must admit that we do not have a definitive idea of how the connection manifests itself physically...In this paper we will simply study the huge gravitational impact that the connection, through the scalar field f, has in our theory."

'Ether and the Theory of Relativity by Albert Einstein'
http://www-groups.dcs.st-and.ac.uk/~histor...tein_ether.html

"the state of the [ether] is at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the ether in neighbouring places"

The state of the aether at every place determined by connections with the matter and the state of the aether in neighboring places is the state of displacement of the aether.

Aether has mass, physically occupies three dimensional space and is physically displaced by particles of matter.

The connection that they do not have a definitive idea of how it manifests itself physically is the state of displacement of the aether.

Displaced aether pushing back and exerting inward pressure toward matter is gravity.

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« Reply #28 on: September 12, 2013, 02:45:04 PM »
'Cosmos may be curved, scientists say'
http://www.foxnews.com/science/2013/09/12/cosmos-may-be-curved-scientists-say/?intcmp=features

"Now cosmologists suggest these anomalies occur because the universe is not flat. Instead, these researchers propose the universe may be ever so slightly "open," curved in such a way that parallel lines, which never converge or diverge when traveling on a flat surface, will eventually diverge from one another, like on a saddle."

'Was the universe born spinning?'
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/46688

"The universe was born spinning and continues to do so around a preferred axis"
 
The Universe spins around a preferred axis because the Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is in, a jet; a larger version of a black hole polar jet.

'Mysterious Cosmic 'Dark Flow' Tracked Deeper into Universe'
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/goddard/news/releases/2010/10-023.html

"The clusters appear to be moving along a line extending from our solar system toward Centaurus/Hydra, but the direction of this motion is less certain. Evidence indicates that the clusters are headed outward along this path, away from Earth, but the team cannot yet rule out the opposite flow. "We detect motion along this axis, but right now our data cannot state as strongly as we'd like whether the clusters are coming or going," Kashlinsky said."

The clusters are headed along this path because the Universe is, or the local Universe we exist in is in, a jet.

The following is an image analogous of the Universal jet.

http://aether.lbl.gov/image_all.html

The reason for the 'expansion' of the universe is the continual emission of aether into the Universal jet. Three dimensional space associated with the Universe itself is not expanding. What we see in our telescopes is the matter associated with the Universe moving outward and away from the Universal jet emission point. In the image above, '1st Stars' is where aether condenses into matter.

Dark energy is aether emitted into the Universal jet.

It's not the Big Bang; it's the Big Ongoing.

 

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