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Author Topic: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator  (Read 108136 times)

synchro1

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #45 on: April 25, 2014, 06:18:51 PM »
Here are some photos uploaded by Gravityblock:

synchro1

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #46 on: April 25, 2014, 06:33:31 PM »

Note that the balance magnets revolve 360 degrees at 3.38 Hertz, twice the 1.618 on the left side. The right side yields a Shumman resonant frequency of 7.83 for the complete revoloution. The speed of the magnet wave is Pi/2. C, and multiples of Pi like 6.28 result in resonant peaks, depending on which side of the Chiral disks the balance magnets are positioned! We witness a range of resonant peaks, all of which correspond to one or another of these formulas.


http://www.youtube.com/user/JEBAYLES

synchro1

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #47 on: April 26, 2014, 12:41:39 AM »

1,000,000 R.P.M. There's hardly anything to this circuit. Take a close look at the coil and see if you can identify a third wire, indicating a series bifilar connection!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RB7zzs9x5Og


Anyone who has played around with this kind of power spinner will start to ask why the neo magnet spinner accelerates at such a high rate of speed, while coupled with input power reduction. The increase in speed during power reduction can not been adequately explained without the "Magnet Wave Theory".



« Last Edit: April 26, 2014, 02:43:08 AM by synchro1 »

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #48 on: April 26, 2014, 11:47:51 AM »
Yes, it's perfectly explainable without recourse to unconventional hand-waving.

That last video is a bit more believable because the acoustic signature is a cross-check on the electrical tachometry. Still, there should always be some confirming measurement: optical or audio or maybe physical vibration, to verify that the magnet is spinning in 1-to-1 synch with the driving signal. No, self-triggering does not always assure 1-to-1 synch.

The most important part of that demonstration is the magnet explosion. He could easily have put out an eye, or even worse, destroyed his oscilloscope when that happened. If people want to fool around with spinning magnets fast like this, they really need to spend some time on safety precautions.

Also it's evident that the driver he is using doesn't correspond to the schematic presented at first.

synchro1

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #49 on: April 26, 2014, 04:27:27 PM »
Yes, it's perfectly explainable without recourse to unconventional hand-waving.

That last video is a bit more believable because the acoustic signature is a cross-check on the electrical tachometry. Still, there should always be some confirming measurement: optical or audio or maybe physical vibration, to verify that the magnet is spinning in 1-to-1 synch with the driving signal. No, self-triggering does not always assure 1-to-1 synch.

The most important part of that demonstration is the magnet explosion. He could easily have put out an eye, or even worse, destroyed his oscilloscope when that happened. If people want to fool around with spinning magnets fast like this, they really need to spend some time on safety precautions.

Also it's evident that the driver he is using doesn't correspond to the schematic presented at first.


I want to reinforce TK's admonition; The hyper fast spinning magnet is a LETHAL PROJECTILE! A PVC coupling provides adequate protection. The coupling not the pipe.

TinselKoala

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #50 on: April 26, 2014, 07:38:35 PM »
I wish I had access to my old lab. It would be really interesting to take a high-speed video of the magnet exploding from the inertial stresses. I used to be able to use a video camera that could take 30,000 frames per second. Oh well, maybe somebody up there is reading this and will try it.



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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2014, 03:22:20 PM »
I wish I had access to my old lab. It would be really interesting to take a high-speed video of the magnet exploding from the inertial stresses. I used to be able to use a video camera that could take 30,000 frames per second. Oh well, maybe somebody up there is reading this and will try it.
What is your nearest University town, TK?

I would bet my bottom dollar that, if your gear is reasonably transportable, one of the engineering faculties will have the equipment and be entertained at the idea of setting up on their premises.

DreamThinkBuild

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #52 on: April 28, 2014, 08:21:30 PM »
The real challenge is converting that speed to useable power.

It doesn't have to be big either.

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #53 on: April 29, 2014, 11:08:34 AM »
Wow!! You mean if someone is an asshole to me, I can tell them to lick my left nut and not get banned!!?? This is the coolest Forum on the Internet!! 8)
Sign me up for a life membership!! :)

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #54 on: May 24, 2014, 05:22:07 AM »
Hi All,
we again have to warn users using big sized Neodym ball magnets with high speed rotation !

Another member of a German group has been hit by flying apart pieces of such a 3 cm diameter ball magnet.

He got hit into his arm with several pieces and also a plexiglas piece flying into his eye,
fortunately it was no piece of the magnet, so his eye could be saved.
Here is a video, where he described what happened to him, in German language:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HM_I3PQfhR8

So please be very carefull, when you play with ball magnets.
They are only sinter-pressed together and at high speed they fly apart and act like
lethal dum-dum munitions.. !
Better don´t use them at all !

I hope you will see the danger now...

Regards. Stefan.

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Re: Tragic accident with ball magnet EMDR motor-generator
« Reply #55 on: May 24, 2014, 05:31:33 AM »
Here a picture of his eye from the hospital being hit by a piece
of plexiglas.