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vineet_kiran

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Transferring of water head
« on: June 11, 2013, 03:34:08 PM »
 
 
Shift the water head to a convenient place by using  system of pipes
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Low-Q

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Re: Transferring of water head
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2013, 04:00:37 PM »
What you describe is appearently a complicated siphon. You don't need the upper jar if the water outlet is lower than the upper level of the water inside the lower jar. However, it would be useful to prefill the upper jar as an initial pump to create vacuum in the lower jar so water can flow up to the upper jar.


It will stop pumping as soon as the water level in the lower jar is at the same or lower level as the water outlet.


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mondrasek

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Re: Transferring of water head
« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2013, 04:15:18 PM »
In addition, there is a limit to the height you can draw water up a tube by creating a vacuum at the top.  Vacuum is really the absence of pressure and does not physically pull the water.  It is the air pressure outside the tube the pushes the water up into the tube.  With an average air pressure on Earth at sea level being around 14.7 psi (~101 kPa) you can achieve a maximum water column height of ~33 ft (~10 m).
 
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TinselKoala

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Re: Transferring of water head
« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2013, 08:46:16 PM »
But of course Wayne Travis has gotten around all that physics nonsense with his Tilt-a-Zed rotary Ikea flat-packable 30 kW self-running hydraulic power system, which somehow magnifies the effective head of its water to hundreds of feet and then uses that to drive hydraulic cylinders to accumulate all that extra pressure which then flows through a hydraulic motor at 3000 psi and 25 gallons per minute (or something like that) to turn the generator that produces the electrical output equivalent of a large herd of horses, all in the footprint of a small tool shed with no input and no exhaust. And he's going to install one at his church! Three years ago now!

Meanwhile Travis still is running his home, barn and shop from the Oklahoma municipal electric grid, for some strange reason. And people that should be working with him keep showing up here, getting mad and running off when I simply ask about how their work with Travis is going, and why they still don't have a simple self running tabletop water pump... like I have.

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MileHigh

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Re: Transferring of water head
« Reply #4 on: June 13, 2013, 11:24:15 PM »
Some recent quotes from Mr. WayneLameEggBrainFryingPan himself:

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Our output system is now completed. When we cycle, we can pump the output "water" to a raised reservoir and then let it fall to a lower reservoir which is then fed back into the TAZ. We also have an air bag system to use the air output as a mechanical pump. We have accomplished in configuring the hydraulic production system and the system is now "closed- looped". Without the hydraulic out put system, our current system is not set up to accumulate the energy. It can provide continuous pumping and be started and stopped as needed.
The most logical long term use will be clean energy production, remote energy production. Pumping will likely be the initial product.
All of the possible applications of the technology are presently unknown at this time.

Who in their right mind would put the word "water" in quotations when describing a system that allegedly does something with water?

So Wayne is going to sell free energy water pumps?  (He should call Sean.)  He can't think of a better application?  I told him to scale his alleged system up so the water tanks and bellows are 20 stories tall and he can then power a small city.

I laugh at the classic free energy promoter gibberish.  I relish watching this one reach its end game.  Something tells me that Wayne is going to become a "pure intellectual property" company just like our clueless buddy John Rohner.  (If you want a hoot look at his website in it's current post-FBI raid form and see how much he thinks his time is worth.  I think it's in the "hot seat" section.)

Our friend Mark Dansie is not keen at all on Wayne these days.  I watched a recent interview on SmartScarecrow.

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MileHigh

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Re: Transferring of water head
« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2013, 01:03:01 AM »
Webby1:

If you are still in the Wayne camp do you have any concrete progress to report?  I mean something real, that works, that you can see, that you can make measurements off of, something that can be demoed as a free energy machine.

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minnie

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Re: Transferring of water head
« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2013, 04:20:40 PM »
Hi,
    all of that stuff the Koala said did come from Travis in one way or another.
There is a huge amount known about buoyancy and added mass, just delve
in to some naval research.
  As for "virtual water" that's a term used in agriculture.
I think that the missing link is "and then a miracle occurs".
   I do hope that they succeed, but as MD. says the longer it goes on there's
less chance of a good result.
                                           John
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