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Title: Permanent Magnetic Motors
Post by: blueberrydrumz on June 10, 2013, 12:42:20 PM
Hi Guys,

first of all hat off to you all! glad to have found this site

i hope im in the right forum, if not please move my post..

I am new to this, so please bare with me and please correct me if make mistakes.. i want to learn!

I have been spending the last days with watching alot of youtube videos & reading pdf´s on the Bedini Motors and Permanent Magnetic Motors, i am a bit confused now and maybe someone can help clear things up.

Basicly i am looking to achieve around 6KW of power 230V AC

i know now that i can modd a alternator and run it without the rectifier to get close to my 230V, i might have to use a transformer.. ok

so im thinking to modify a regular motor with magnets that will run
the alternator (permanent magnet generator), please correct me if i am wrong,
but very simply put, i could start the motor with a 12v battery, get it to speed then let the alternator power the motor & charge the battery again, so the system would be self sefficiant... should be possible right?

the other possibility would be to run a motor again on a belt that runs a Generator from example a washing machine, that would save modifying a alternator, like one in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jrMmYTLd78
but i doubt the power output would be sufficiant, but i could run multiple Generators to get the acquired power

would i need to modify the motor (add magnets) to help add power to power the modified alternator?
or would it be better to use the bedini principle and modify the motor to run with help of batterys to run the alternator?
or am i getting things mixed up... sorry my brain is fried with soo much input the last days...

or has anyone got a "simple" awnser to my quest

many thx in advance for your feedback!

bless
Title: Re: Permanent Magnetic Motors
Post by: tinman on June 13, 2013, 02:14:23 PM
Hi Guys,

first of all hat off to you all! glad to have found this site

i hope im in the right forum, if not please move my post..

I am new to this, so please bare with me and please correct me if make mistakes.. i want to learn!

I have been spending the last days with watching alot of youtube videos & reading pdf´s on the Bedini Motors and Permanent Magnetic Motors, i am a bit confused now and maybe someone can help clear things up.

Basicly i am looking to achieve around 6KW of power 230V AC

i know now that i can modd a alternator and run it without the rectifier to get close to my 230V, i might have to use a transformer.. ok

so im thinking to modify a regular motor with magnets that will run
the alternator (permanent magnet generator), please correct me if i am wrong,
but very simply put, i could start the motor with a 12v battery, get it to speed then let the alternator power the motor & charge the battery again, so the system would be self sefficiant... should be possible right?

the other possibility would be to run a motor again on a belt that runs a Generator from example a washing machine, that would save modifying a alternator, like one in this video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jrMmYTLd78
but i doubt the power output would be sufficiant, but i could run multiple Generators to get the acquired power

would i need to modify the motor (add magnets) to help add power to power the modified alternator?
or would it be better to use the bedini principle and modify the motor to run with help of batterys to run the alternator?
or am i getting things mixed up... sorry my brain is fried with soo much input the last days...

or has anyone got a "simple" awnser to my quest

many thx in advance for your feedback!

bless
Hi blueberrydrumz
The answer is very simple.
The altinator or generator will never put out more power than the prime mover uses to drive it.
Hope that save's you some time.
Title: Re: Permanent Magnetic Motors
Post by: markdansie on June 13, 2013, 03:16:31 PM
Hi Tinman,
I have to agree with your statement, but there must be something to it it is still the number 1 of the top 5 technologies on Sterling's Free Energy News site.
Hi Blueberrydrumz, I have some land with 360 degree water views at certain times a day, its less risky investment.
Please spend some time reading the forums here, and you will see why at this point of time no one has what you require.
Kind Regards

Title: Re: Permanent Magnetic Motors
Post by: seychelles on May 29, 2021, 01:24:39 PM
IGOR HAS CRACKED IT. CONGRATULATION IGOR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igIzfTyAW9c
Title: Re: Permanent Magnetic Motors
Post by: lancaIV on May 29, 2021, 01:42:40 PM
IGOR will like this :


https://patents.google.com/patent/US1859764A/en (https://patents.google.com/patent/US1859764A/en)

and


https://worldwide.espacenet.com/publicationDetails/biblio?DB=EPODOC&II=19&ND=3&adjacent=true&locale=en_EP&FT=D&date=19320709&CC=FR&NR=728660A&KC=A

Funny weekend


OCWL
Title: Re: Permanent Magnetic Motors
Post by: conradelektro on May 29, 2021, 04:32:48 PM
IGOR HAS CRACKED IT. CONGRATULATION IGOR.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igIzfTyAW9c (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=igIzfTyAW9c)

I like Igor's contraption, but do not understand how he made it work. What is under the table?
I suspect it is a magnet on an arm moving in a circle exactly underneath the round track (fixed to the underside of the table). The arm is driven by an electric motor. This moving magnet drags the steel balls round and round. Therefore the movement of the steel balls is so uniform.
Of course I do not know, it is a guess. It might be done more cleverly.
I also like the nice 3D-printed parts.
Greetings, Conrad
Title: Re: Permanent Magnetic Motors
Post by: Floor on May 29, 2021, 05:07:04 PM
Agree.

Two thumbs down / what's under the table.
Title: Re: Permanent Magnetic Motors
Post by: seychelles on May 29, 2021, 07:21:26 PM
COMMON GUY IGOR IS NEVER A CHEAT. I HAVE ULTIMATE RESPECT FOR HIM.
Title: Re: Permanent Magnetic Motors
Post by: ramset on May 29, 2021, 08:50:14 PM
Well
His Roberto 33 replication
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XqEXsCDQdYo (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=XqEXsCDQdYo)


He shows the batteries at the end ...21:40 .. mark ?


He does like to play http://physicstoys.narod.ru/page/plans.html (http://physicstoys.narod.ru/page/plans.html)


Title: Re: Permanent Magnetic Motors
Post by: conradelektro on May 29, 2021, 10:15:06 PM
COMMON GUY IGOR IS NEVER A CHEAT. I HAVE ULTIMATE RESPECT FOR HIM.
I am sure Igor will reveal the secret of his contraption in due time.
Greetings, Conrad