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Author Topic: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.  (Read 242471 times)

synchro1

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #225 on: December 26, 2014, 11:16:22 PM »
@MarkE & Milehigh,

You Con Artists look for "Delayed Lenz Effect" where there is none. Then you proclaim you can't find any, and conclude it's a falsehood. Don't you want to see that same old "Slip Knot Trick" again? You were asked by me to start your own threads. I want to see a B/H curve, not that same boring "Lorentz" side track formula.

synchro1

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #226 on: December 27, 2014, 12:05:47 AM »
Read and confine you comments to this PDF:

MarkE

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #227 on: December 27, 2014, 02:07:24 AM »
Read and confine you comments to this PDF:
Synchro1 the Ferroxcube data manual primarily describes soft ferrites.  The ferrite offerings from quality manufacturers like TDK and Philips/Ferroxcube exhibit both high resistivity, and near zero magnetic viscosity.  The MnZn power ferrites are highly efficient in applications to nearly 1MHz.  IE even these lower frequency materials exhibit negligible opposition due to any cause.

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #228 on: December 27, 2014, 02:11:28 AM »
@MarkE & Milehigh,

You Con Artists look for "Delayed Lenz Effect" where there is none. Then you proclaim you can't find any, and conclude it's a falsehood. Don't you want to see that same old "Slip Knot Trick" again? You were asked by me to start your own threads. I want to see a B/H curve, not that same boring "Lorentz" side track formula.
Synchro1 you are creating a parody of yourself.  Here is your OP:

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Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« on: June 09, 2013, 05:07:49 PM »

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I received a message from Bob Smith, asking if I ever tried a "Mag Amp". I'm opening this new thread so everyone can benefit from  Bob's knowhow.

Here's Igor's bedini-magnacoaster video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzNjAs3-9LA


Reply to your comment on: bedini-magnacoaster:

My question to Igor was; Does the rotor speed increase when you insert the iron magnet into the coil core? His answer:

"yes, it does, a little...
to get to the bottom of it we need to make an inductor from it !
here's the Vorktex secret - by oscillation (it's his "breaker") get a HF HV output; transform it down to HF HA output and than rectify it to the caps bank; and discharge it to batteries to run the inverters to run the oscillator ... looped...
btw, like your antygravity tests...

cheers"


This confirms the rotor acceleration. The question remains, is this "Lenz Delay Effect"? My theory is that the magnet interferes with coil efficiency, inducing the delay! Extending the output coil core length appears to slow the coil's performance down too!


Here's Igor's video on the solid state "magnacoaster effect":


This experiment is basicly the same as the Dragone. Impulse demagnetization is generating OU power.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWhsJWXEER4[/size]

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #229 on: December 27, 2014, 02:46:51 AM »
All this bullcrap is just a pack of lies.
I am afraid he is correct about the magnetic effects of ferromagnetic saturation.

However, I have never investigated the relation between magnetic saturation and electric conductivity of ferromagnetic materials, so I am not qualified to have an opinion about that little piece of trivia.

I disagree with Synchro's As Hominem remarks, insults and vulgarisms.  They have no place in a scientific discussions.
It has been my experience that people resort to such expletives when their argument cannot withstand a logical debate.

synchro1

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #230 on: December 27, 2014, 03:00:03 AM »
@MarkE,

There's good general material in this publication. You act like there's nothing to be gained from it because your want to act smarter. You make me sick.

Here on the top of page 9:

"When the flux density of a core increases, hystrysis losses are more noticable".

ramset

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #231 on: December 27, 2014, 03:15:10 AM »
MH
not sure what your talking about...me whining and Moping...about GDS




My comment to Cap had nothing to do with any specific event in this thread..
Twas just a comment ...


However
Synchro is talking "Pooping in your Puss...??"


yeesh
come on Guys
Synchro
is that true??
   I kid you not,   Stephan will throw your potty mouth out the door if he reads that??
no bar of soap in the mouth... nothing but  WOOOSH...Gonzo...


you fellahs gotta figure out how to relax this Nasty stuff...


Puss Poopin.....
yeesh..


MarkE

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #232 on: December 27, 2014, 03:33:44 AM »
@MarkE,

There's good general material in this publication. You act like there's nothing to be gained from it because your want to act smarter. You make me sick.

Here on the top of page 9:

"When the flux density of a core increases, hystrysis losses are more noticable".
Synchro1 you are all over the map.  Now you are off inventing straw men to slay.  In a discussion of delayed external magnetic fields you threw out a nearly thousand page catalog of soft ferrites that are almost entirely free of such delays.  When I pointed that fact out, you invented the notion that I demeaned that fine catalog and your supposed indignation at your invented notion.  Your protests are just getting sillier and sillier.

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #233 on: December 27, 2014, 03:40:56 AM »
I strongly denounce your behaviour.  It's disgusting, it should stop immediately, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Anybody else have the courage to say that?

Syncro1 is the poster boy for why software developers added the moderation feature...yet, after all of his nasty name calling and abuse, he suggests that HE is going to report someone to be moderated?  Even if he might have something technical to bring to the topic, no one will see it because of his insults and abuse to those who question his concepts.

I almost fell out of my chair when I read that he was going to report folks for moderation.  I must have entered the Bazzaro world or something.

Just remember, we can (If we try) agree to disagree or, better yet, learn something from someone that knows more than we do.  No need for insults.

I am trying to improve my own posts in this manner.

Bill

synchro1

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #234 on: December 27, 2014, 03:57:35 AM »
I don't like him. I don't like Milehigh either.

synchro1

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #235 on: December 27, 2014, 04:08:52 AM »
Synchro1 the Ferroxcube data manual primarily describes soft ferrites.  The ferrite offerings from quality manufacturers like TDK and Philips/Ferroxcube exhibit both high resistivity, and near zero magnetic viscosity.  The MnZn power ferrites are highly efficient in applications to nearly 1MHz.  IE even these lower frequency materials exhibit negligible opposition due to any cause.

This is just more complete "Bullshit". The document is just general education material. He's acting too Smart.

MileHigh

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #236 on: December 27, 2014, 05:23:36 AM »
Chet:

Thank you for your comments.

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Synchro
is that true??
   I kid you not,   Stephan will throw your potty mouth out the door if he reads that??
no bar of soap in the mouth... nothing but  WOOOSH...Gonzo...

Yes, it actually is true.  Please see attached.

MileHigh

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #237 on: December 27, 2014, 05:46:30 AM »
Bill:

Thank you for your comments, and thank your stepping up to the plate.  I too try to improve my posts and not get into trash talk that is abusive towards other people.  I know that I can have strong opinions sometimes and that can upset people, but I try my best to keep it on a technical level.  You can have strong opinions about something technical, especially if it is a truly nonsensical proposition you are discussing.  Especially if it is coming from what you consider to be a criminal con with an extremely high degree of confidence.  I realize even that can and should be moderated at times.  But to abuse people personally is just plain wrong.  On the flip side, if you are not the abuser but the abusee, then there are limits.

Just look at society.  I know that's an old cliche.  I watched one of those creepy traffic accident clips once where cars were at a red light and there is a gruesome accident that happens in front of the waiting cars.  A car is badly crushed by a truck.  Then, the light changes and all of the cars just drive off.  I almost cried when I saw that.  Several people could have been bleeding out in the crushed car and their lives could have been in the balance, but nobody got out of their cars to see if they could help.  It's sick and sometime what transpires on chat forums is sick.  The human condition is a very fragile thing.

MileHigh

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #238 on: December 27, 2014, 06:16:04 AM »
Bill:

Thank you for your comments, and thank your stepping up to the plate.  I too try to improve my posts and not get into trash talk that is abusive towards other people.  I know that I can have strong opinions sometimes and that can upset people, but I try my best to keep it on a technical level.  You can have strong opinions about something technical, especially if it is a truly nonsensical proposition you are discussing.  Especially if it is coming from what you consider to be a criminal con with an extremely high degree of confidence.  I realize even that can and should be moderated at times.  But to abuse people personally is just plain wrong.  On the flip side, if you are not the abuser but the abusee, then there are limits.

Just look at society.  I know that's an old cliche.  I watched one of those creepy traffic accident clips once where cars were at a red light and there is a gruesome accident that happens in front of the waiting cars.  A car is badly crushed by a truck.  Then, the light changes and all of the cars just drive off.  I almost cried when I saw that.  Several people could have been bleeding out in the crushed car and their lives could have been in the balance, but nobody got out of their cars to see if they could help.  It's sick and sometime what transpires on chat forums is sick.  The human condition is a very fragile thing.

MileHigh

MH:

The human condition right now is in the toilet...not everyone...but way too many.  A 92 year old black women here in town had her Christmas lights stolen.  Another guy, who hid his Christmas gifts in his car in his driveway  (safe place to hide from his 4 kids) had it broken into and the gifts are gone.

There is a lot of good going on too, we just don't hear about it.

I have gotten into it with a few folks on this forum and, I am not proud of that.  I am trying to do better.  You and I did not always see eye to eye either in the early days...but...the more I learned and the more research I did...I realized that you were correct...and that really pissed me off, ha ha.

But seriously,  If we all take a deep breath now and then, maybe we can communicate in a somewhat decent manner.  It only takes one to start the personal attacks, and then the attacked person will strike back in defense.  This probably turns off newcomers to this site when they see this.  Veterans like us can look past most of it and see some good experiments being performed, and people learning how to do good measurements.

I like Mark's attitude on this.  He gets attacked even more than you or TK and yet, manages to say something like "that is a bunch of crap." and not "Your mother is a ....(fill in the blank)" 

So, one of my resolutions for the new year is...to be a nice as possible online.  I will not suffer abuse gladly mind you, but I will try as hard as I can not to be sucked into mindless arguments with idiots.  I will just let it pass. (hopefully)

Once again, I do thank you, Mark, TK, Groundloop, Electricme, Tinman, Tommy Reed, and all of the other folks that actually have real working knowledge of this science who share it willingly, sometimes at a personal cost.  Maybe together we can set an example for folks arriving at this site that would say that we love debate and honest discourse, but will not tolerate personal attacks and insults.  I tried to do that with the original JT topic and it worked well more often than it did not.

I can say "I agree with you Sir" just as easy as I can say "I disagree with you Sir."  Or, "I believe that your conclusions are not correct."  We will still get attacked now and then, but we should resist getting down to their level.

OK, off my soapbox now.

Thank you to all that have taught me so much,

Bill

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #239 on: December 27, 2014, 06:46:39 PM »
@Milehigh,

What about all the demeaning and abusive language you've insulted me with? I just copied your style. Both you and MarkE get paid to run rubbish into this forum. Then you reverse the blame. Why is it that the two of you have me personally targeted me as a full time occuption? You're the last one to talk about propriety. You act like a savage animal. Everyne knows you're an abomination. You're a Jackal on the veldt and a Cannibal. Stephan wised-up to your two faced routine already. You can just get used to the back flack or hit the road.

My point is that: "Magnets toughen the Weiss Domains and delay re-polarization in the core material".