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Author Topic: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.  (Read 242464 times)

tinman

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #210 on: December 26, 2014, 05:19:16 PM »
You lot have a bad xmas or something?

MarkE

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #211 on: December 26, 2014, 05:27:18 PM »
I understand that, but you are not the issue here.  It's a generic issue about how we collectively behave towards one another and if we will tolerate this kind of unacceptable behaviour without saying anything.

The challenge is for people to speak up and denounce this kind of behaviour.  It sometimes takes some guts and some character to stand up and say what is right and denounce what is wrong.
If this were a place where I thought there were vulnerable people I would agree with you.  I don't believe that anything Synchro1 has written or could write is capable of causing actual harm to anyone or anything other than his own reputation.

MarkE

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #212 on: December 26, 2014, 05:28:40 PM »
You lot have a bad xmas or something?
I have heard rumors that marauding bands of penguin assassins made Christmas tough for many.

synchro1

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #213 on: December 26, 2014, 05:32:06 PM »
The topic of this thread is magnet core coils and magnetic phase lag in the core material and how these factors cause "Delayed Lenz Effect". This subject has nothing to do with "Lorentz Force" in an electrical wire. I have every right to insist that the comments be confined to the subject under review. 

These errant contributors can start their own thread to discuss "Lorentz Force" in wires. MarkE has strayed too far off course. These commenters have to stick with the format.

MileHigh

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #214 on: December 26, 2014, 05:36:24 PM »
If this were a place where I thought there were vulnerable people I would agree with you.  I don't believe that anything Synchro1 has written or could write is capable of causing actual harm to anyone or anything other than his own reputation.

It's purely an issue of principle.  It doesn't matter if harm is caused to anyone here or not.  On the other hand, there have been many vulnerable teens that have committed suicide because of online abuse and harassment.  There have been many high profile cases over the past few years.

synchro1

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #215 on: December 26, 2014, 05:39:31 PM »
It's purely an issue of principle.  It doesn't matter if harm is caused to anyone here or not.  On the other hand, there have been many vulnerable teens that have committed suicide because of online abuse and harassment.  There have been many high profile cases over the past few years.

Start a social thread asshole!

MileHigh

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #216 on: December 26, 2014, 05:42:13 PM »
Start a social thread asshole!

I strongly denounce your behaviour.  It's disgusting, it should stop immediately, and you should be ashamed of yourself.

Anybody else have the courage to say that?

MarkE

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #217 on: December 26, 2014, 05:47:36 PM »
It's purely an issue of principle.  It doesn't matter if harm is caused to anyone here or not.  On the other hand, there have been many vulnerable teens that have committed suicide because of online abuse and harassment.  There have been many high profile cases over the past few years.
What choices we make I think should be guided by outcome expectations and risks.  Since I don't think that there is anyone vulnerable here like the tragically bullied teens we have read about, I don't think that there is anything done here that would instigate or avert a tragedy.  I think the choices center mostly around feeding bad behavior or refusing to reward it with emotion that it likely seeks.  It is tried and true that rewarding screaming children invites more screaming.

MarkE

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #218 on: December 26, 2014, 05:52:40 PM »
The topic of this thread is magnet core coils and magnetic phase lag in the core material and how these factors cause "Delayed Lenz Effect". This subject has nothing to do with "Lorentz Force" in an electrical wire. I have every right to insist that the comments be confined to the subject under review. 

These errant contributors can start their own thread to discuss "Lorentz Force" in wires. MarkE has strayed too far off course. These commenters have to stick with the format.
Actually, the Lorentz force has everything to do with the thread topic.  The thread has been discussing how delayed magnetic effects might make it possible to get some sort of mechanical assist in electrodynamic machines.  If one is looking for mechanical force from an electromagnet, one is looking for the Lorentz force.

synchro1

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #219 on: December 26, 2014, 05:54:47 PM »
Actually, the Lorentz force has everything to do with the thread topic.  The thread has been discussing how delayed magnetic effects might make it possible to get some sort of mechanical assist in electrodynamic machines.  If one is looking for mechanical force from an electromagnet, one is looking for the Lorentz force.

Bullshit!

Cap-Z-ro

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #220 on: December 26, 2014, 06:01:52 PM »
I understand that, but you are not the issue here.  It's a generic issue about how we collectively behave towards one another and if we will tolerate this kind of unacceptable behaviour without saying anything.

The challenge is for people to speak up and denounce this kind of behaviour.  It sometimes takes some guts and some character to stand up and say what is right and denounce what is wrong.


A psychological ploy to shift the onus on those being subjected to 'mind herding', instead of where it belongs...on the paid shills here to derail threads where progress is being made toward energy self sufficiency.

Evidently the increasing number of people here that are realizing what they are doing, and who the perpetrators are are making their jobs less "enjoyable".

Keep fighting the good fight and stay the course.

Regards...

 

MarkE

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #221 on: December 26, 2014, 06:02:15 PM »
Bullshit!
You can reject facts to your heart's content.

minnie

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #222 on: December 26, 2014, 06:16:07 PM »



  synchro,
           quit the offensive rants and study things like Lienard - Wiechert potential.
 Have a go at a bit of Newton!
                               John.

ramset

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #223 on: December 26, 2014, 06:58:08 PM »
Cap
its not about fighting ,or pointing fingers ..
at this point we know what we have to do [and are working on doing]
we have to LOOP it and run with true and honest gain...
period.


then it will grow quiet ....


Chet




MileHigh

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Re: Magnet coil cores, demagnetization power and Lenz delay.
« Reply #224 on: December 26, 2014, 07:40:15 PM »
Chet:

Of all people, you don't have the desire or courage to denounce Synchro1's behaviour?

When you have been pressed on supporting GDS Technologies you got all defensive and and moped and whined about how you were being treated.  You probably complained about your treatment over a dozen postings.

When some experimenters are challenged about their outlandish claims that make no sense at all, many times you have stepped in to defend the experimenters.  The poor experimenters are "fragile" and will be "run off the forum" if this "terrible" technical debate continues.

I am not going to read through your postings but I am pretty sure that you have run to the defense of experimenters time and time again when all that was taking place is that their highly dubious, if not outright ridiculous, claims were being firmly debated.  It's easy for experimenters to play the "wounded victim" and then you will rush to their defense and chastise the people that are debating with them and asking pointed and justified questions.

So?

How would you like it if somebody publicly posted that they would like to take a shit on your face?  You don't think that would cross the line or what?

If you had some guts you would denounce Synchro1's behaviour.  Chances are all that if five or ten people denounced Synchro1 then he would feel naked and humiliated, justifiably so, and he would put away the "insane potty-mouth jackass" character and conduct himself like a normal person.

MileHigh