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Offline gyulasun

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Re: Magnet question
« Reply #30 on: June 09, 2013, 11:14:56 PM »
Hi ace569er,

thanks for your kind comments.  Unfortunately, I am not in a position to build and test such setups nowadays, I have a kitchen table corner only at home, not a mechanical lab.  :(   But sooner or later I may get some mechanical help.

The file you uploaded: which software opens the skb extensions, 
EDIT, ok, I found the file opener.

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Re: Magnet question
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Re: Magnet question
« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2013, 03:22:56 AM »
It's a 3-d Google Sketch up file. Easily converted to a STL, or any other CAD file. If you separate the components, first. Double click to enter a component, to be able to highlight deeper components & individual parts.

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Re: Magnet question
« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2013, 01:12:25 PM »
I dont have any software to open the file, is it a pure permanent magnet motor ?

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At equal unity. Just pretty art...So I look to the only other thing I've seen with equal unity.


Ace, you have to build the rocket before you go to the moon, a self runner is more than I have seen evidence of anywhere. When you get proven OU you would have turned the world of physics on its head and they will have to rewrite the book, even for a self runner.

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Re: Magnet question
« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2013, 01:12:25 PM »
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Offline ace569er

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Re: Magnet question
« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2013, 11:39:11 PM »
   lol you make it sound like I was trying to prove or even cared to prove anything. I respect knowledge and learning.... I said I want to see what people can figure out for themselves. People's desire, or lack of to find knowledge, for themselves, interests me greatly. Those who want to learn will guess, test, ask the proper questions, & learn. While others ask for the answers. They may receive them, but don't even understand or even care to learn why something works. Then there are, yet, others who what to learn but just are not quite knowledgeable, in what they may need to know to start. Then can't find anyone to help them. The list goes on...I like seeing different mind set.
   If you found what I have and were doing it for the fun of learning & engineering.(plus my partners are not happy, with my comments to date) You would not just give up your work so that someone else can finish and take credit for it. For just finding the final aspect. I will take help in looking for my next step, but I need not disclose what I know to do so. I'm working on a patent with my uncle in law a patent attorney. If I say much more than I have, than I can't follow through. I can not be specific.  O'Yeah, more importantly is you can't patent perpetual motion or over unity too easily, but a free spinning, entertaining, novelty, toy. Can be done easily. As well as copyrighted, or so my uncle in law tells me. I have yet to cross verify.
  Then all will be free to see, for all who want to, & allot of people with the proper skill sets can build there own, or for someone else, for free. Just no one could profit off it. I was just being nice telling what I did. Because people view things, with out knowing engineering or physics well enough to look at things right. Most who do have degrees relating,(or are very, very well self taught) do not bother to even look theses days. Plus most important if someone figures out the last step while using my design to get there. Must give it out for free, to the world. Keep it to themselves, or take a license deal with me. Take from that what you will, I don't care what people think about me. Just what, why and how they think in general.

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Re: Magnet question
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2013, 03:02:20 AM »
Ace:

I have been working on a magnet motor utilizing gravity for 3 years.  I wonder if we are working in a similar direction?  I will only publish if it works.  Limited funds and time make it a long road to even be able to test a theory.

I wish you the best of luck.

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Re: Magnet question
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2013, 02:18:22 PM »

I dont have any software to open the file, is it a pure permanent magnet motor ?

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 The software is freely downloadable here, unless you choose professional version you do not have to pay for it:  http://www.sketchup.com/ 

I made a screen shot from the file ace uploaded above, opened by Sketchup, see attached.  It seems to be utilizing the combination of magnetic and gravitational forces., you can study, rotate etc it in 3D if you open it with Sketchup.  You can read other useful info on the Finsrud device on this forum, posted some years ago if you search for it, there were personal visits to Finsrud too.

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Re: Magnet question
« Reply #36 on: June 13, 2013, 06:27:14 AM »
   Here is a old version of Finsrud's. Were the platform is not tilted by 1 degree at it's axis. The first model of 3, has 2 (left) tilting proper moving everything at once. Were as in the one to the right, just the center pendulum is tilted. Offsetting the weight. In which I was corrected to change it to the left 2. This model is like the right one, but older and without many corrections one most likely won't see. But might shown in a way, that is easier to understand. Plus the pieces that are missing form the first one(the drive magnets) are in the older one(this one). They were removed from the other because, I know, I don't need them in my design. As well as they are in the way.
    Also still curious to see people's drawings, showing different magnet arrangements...Sketchup is an easy means to show your ideas. Far easier to use than any other 3-D program, I feel. You can export to all to any form of CAD file with plug-ins(There's countless bad ass FREE plugins for drawing too!!!). As well as 2-d JPEG exports. Everything is free. All pro aspects, plus much more, can be achieved through free plug-ins. Even a RUBY script import. To do more or less anything. For more advanced users. I almost feel like an add spokesman for them.........But I do love the software, and I'd like to see people put there idea's in a easy to view form. Most can equally understand(for the most part, in most drawings)

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Re: Magnet question
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