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Mechanical free energy devices => mechanic => Topic started by: synchro1 on May 28, 2013, 12:29:24 AM
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A thirteen millijoule, 100 microsecond pulse turns watts worth of electromagnetic field strength on and off through: The "Improved Flynn Gap"!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZzosuvfvE4 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZzosuvfvE4)
I believe a highly efficient motor can be built using this power source to run it. Horseshoe magnet rotor and DPDT reed swith stand out as an approach. The posibilities are limitless.
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Look how the force multiplies with the combined magnets in the Flynn bridge: Why can't the resultant field match another larger neo of scaled up strength, and multiply the force again times nine?
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Here's a hyperlink to the original patent:
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6229422.PN.&OS=PN/6229422&RS=PN/6229422 (http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsrchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l=50&s1=6229422.PN.&OS=PN/6229422&RS=PN/6229422)
Electrically switchable magnet system
Abstract
In the switchable magnet system disclosed herein, a central pole piece is backed by at least two permanent magnets having substantially different energies (H.sub.c) so that one of the magnets is relatively switchable or reversible and the other is not. A magnetically permeable frame provides a peripheral pole face at least on either side of the central pole face and a backing plate bridging the central pole piece over the permanent magnets. A coil surrounds the first and second permanent magnets insde of the peripheral pole face. According, energization of the coil in one direction can reverse the polarization of the first magnet, thereby effectively short circuiting flux produced by the second magnet and terminating holding, while energization of the coil in the opposite direction can polarize the first magnet in parallel with the second magnet, thereby to effect holding.
Two cylinder magnets of the same dimensions, coil wraped, one alnico the other neodydmium, of differing strengths; Set between two ferrite keepers. That's it! This is very powerfull magnet switch.
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These guys sell a cheap alnico "Cow" magnet that's 1/2" in diameter and 3" in length.
http://www.adamsmagnetic.com/alnico_magnets/cow_magnets.php (http://www.adamsmagnetic.com/alnico_magnets/cow_magnets.php)
Below are pictures of K & J magnetics matching neo: $20.00
Dimensions (http://www.kjmagnetics.com/glossary.asp#Dimensions): 1/2" dia. x 3" thick
Tolerances (http://www.kjmagnetics.com/glossary.asp#Tolerance): ±0.004" x ±0.004"
Material (http://www.kjmagnetics.com/glossary.asp#Grade): NdFeB, Grade N42
Plating/Coating (http://www.kjmagnetics.com/glossary.asp#Plating): Ni-Cu-Ni (Nickel)
Magnetization Direction (http://www.kjmagnetics.com/magdir.asp): Axial (Poles on Flat Ends)
Weight (http://www.kjmagnetics.com/glossary.asp#Weight): 2.55 oz. (72.4 g)
Pull Force, Case 1 (http://www.kjmagnetics.com/faq.asp#pulltest): 17.35 lbs
Pull Force, Case 2 (http://www.kjmagnetics.com/faq.asp#pulltest): 17.35 lbs
Surface Field (http://www.kjmagnetics.com/glossary.asp#Surface): 6577 Gauss
Max Operating Temp (http://www.kjmagnetics.com/glossary.asp#MaxTemp): 176ºF (80ºC)
Brmax (http://www.kjmagnetics.com/glossary.asp#Brmax): 13,200 Gauss
BHmax (http://www.kjmagnetics.com/glossary.asp#BHmax): 42 MGOe
The D8Z0 is a very sturdy, very strong neodymium cylinder magnet. Perfect for a vast array of applications. Easy to grab and handle, yet super strong!
These two magnets yolked would create a third phantom magnet, maybe over thirty pounds of force altogether! What a kick! A radial motor of six switches could allow for hysterisis loop and the coils could be turned to output during the off cycle. The rotor magnets just need to be spaced three inches, disks perhaps, and alternately facing. Stong rotor neos would allow for a heavily weighted flywheel, or an alternator load.
The simplest and quickest way to achieve OU with this switch would be to fire a two disk base 3" diametric magnet plug upward through a long output coil core, and let it fall back from gravity, slowed by Lenz drag. The magnet switch can stay polarized to help cushion the descent. The switch needs to shut off and refire just before magnet impact. This should self loop and generate power right away!
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Synchro1:
Clips like you linked to and the associated patent make me wince. I looked at several clips from that YouTube user and he seems like a really nice guy. The problem is that he just knows enough stuff to become overconfident. He pushes his luck and makes several mistakes and draws incorrect conclusions. Then we get a double-whammy because you look at his clips and don't know any better, and as a result you get a "blind leading the blind" phenomenon taking place. On top of that you have a highly questionable patent that might also be wrong. You end up with an unholy trinity - a potentially bad patent - a misguided teacher - an an impressionable student being misled that doesn't know any better.
And here we are at step four. Does your thread get a lot of enthusiastic response from other people that don't know any better and the disinformation continues to self-propagate and spread even more misconceptions? I can give you an example of a down-side to this stuff. In the 2H2 + O2 world, commonly called "HHO," A bunch of jackasses at an "energy" company in California where filling a gas cylinder with 2H2 + O2 gas and compressing it to high pressure. Now, you have to be a complete fool to not know how dangerous that is. I doubt any of them were fools. Beyond that, you have to be a complete moron to actually attempt to do it. Multiple attempts were made and in one instance someone was killed by the explosion and there was another incident where I think someone had their arm ripped off by another explosion. Half of the roof was blown off of the building in one of the explosions.
So, you have to ask yourself, am I a "bad guy" for making this posting or am I a "good guy" for telling you the truth to the best of my abilities based on the limited information available? It's an important question, don't you think?
Here is what I think is happening, and this applies to the clip and to the patent:
The powerful neo magnet and the weaker alnico magnet are originally placed next to each other so that they will stick together, north mated with south on one end and south mated with north on the other end. They are both cylindrical so the end pieces will also most likely have have a substantial amount of flux flowing through them to complete the magnetic circuit. The two magnets together and the end pieces form a very strong flux loop. It's so strong that my feeling is that the weaker alnico magnet never flips polarity like the patent says and the YouTuber says. It's just not going to happen, the powerful neo magnet will likely always complete the magnetic flux loop after you disconnect the battery source from the coils and force the flux loop to flow in the desired direction. Because the flux loop is so strong, almost no flux is available to attract the larger metal block.
Now, when he connects the battery and the configuration is set up as a permanent magnet holder (PMH) the flux generated by the coil flows through the magnet assembly and the big metal block. Like I state above, the two magnets have got their own flux loop, and that is not really disturbed after the power is removed. It will be temporally disturbed when the power is applied. However, after the power is removed, the neo-alinco magnetic flux loop will self-restore.
After the power is removed, it's the big metal block that is now energized with flux so that it is the agent that acts like the "magnet" in the PMH. The big metal block is attracting the smaller assembly that consists of the neo and the alnico and the end pieces. The big metal block is energized with magnetic flux, and that flux "tunnels" through the neo-alnico magnet assembly. So you end up with Bloch walls inside the neo-alnico assembly.
It's also possible that you can get the PMH effect working both ways in this setup although that's not mentioned in the patent nor is it mentioned or tested by the YouTube tester. The big metal block can store a lot of magnetic flux energy and it's likely that it can "tunnel" it's own flux path through the neo-alnico magnet assembly in either direction. Meanwhile the neo-alnico magent pair remain locked in their own flux loop.
So, if I am right, and my confidence is quite high, there is no flipping of the polarity of the alnico magnet. Also, the "real magnet" when in PMH mode, is the big metal block, and not the neo-alnico magnet assembly. Those are two big mistakes made in both the patent and the YouTube clip.
And what do you do now Synchro1? Do you just completely ignore this posting and move onto the "next big thing?" (No comment from you about the research work done on the junk yard magnets???) Do you make some derogatory posting about my posting or me presonally? Or do you show some character and say something like, "I didn't think of that. Thanks, I will try to do some research on my own and try to understand most or all of what you said." What do you do Synchro1? After all, you made that reference to the 1970s, so we figure you must be a fully grown mature man that is in his forties or fifties. What do you say?
MileHigh
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@Milehigh,
I could generate more power off your laptop keyboard. On the rag again huh? Are you Steven Hawkings?
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Synchro1:
As TK likes to say, "preserved for posterity."
@Milehigh,
I could generate more power off your laptop keyboard. On the rag again huh? Are you Steven Hawkings?
It's more like, "Synchro1, are you Innovation_Station?"
MileHigh
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Nice analysis Milehigh.
I wonder after all these years why any of us bash our head against the wall. Its like there is an endless stream and did any of our efforts of pointing out truth. I know after all these years I am a little battle worn (and yes I made mistakes) as I am not sure of the net effort of my activities.
It seems as soon as you sort out one another ten come rushing at you, perhaps it best leave them alone.
I admire you, TK and Mark E (free energy news) and hope you keep up the technical critique you all do so well.
Kind regards
Mark
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Stick to the subject! The cow magnet has beveled edges and is no good. Amazon has a 1/2" x 3"Alnico level edge cylinder for $4.95, cheaper then the cow magnet.
http://www.amazon.com/Alnico-Round-Bar-Magnet-long/dp/B009FDDWXU/ref=sr_1_44?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1369717054&sr=1-44&keywords=alnico+magnets (http://www.amazon.com/Alnico-Round-Bar-Magnet-long/dp/B009FDDWXU/ref=sr_1_44?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1369717054&sr=1-44&keywords=alnico+magnets)
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Wesley Gary designed a reciprocating generator, his had a current reversing electromagnet hinged over a stack of two opposed pole horseshoes. A fat neo plug with steel keepers and two disks on each end could be hammered between two magnet switches like a bell ringer. Two repulsion, and two attraction events. The repulsion needs to trigger before the attracting disk magnets contact the switch keepers.
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Gary's DPDT switch consisted of three saw tooth contacts, and a traveling fork. These types of mechanical commutator contact points are the best way to deliver the sudden impulse. Adjusting the spark gap on the contacts, one on each end, can help tune the generator. The two Flynn switches reverse simultaineously from the same spark at each end.
The large 3' neo tube can ride on a race of 1/4" O.D. roller cams, over a 1/8" brass axel rod. Magnet strength can be increased on all four sides. The output should at least replenish the millijoule transmutaion pulse throgh a FWBR looped back to the power capacitor. The inside of the solinoid output coil needs a groove and the magnet a centering pin to make this linear Flynn style motor generator complete.
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Attaching capacitor cans to the ends of the magnet piston would help streamline the invention. Aluminum foil and wax paper type non-magnetic cylinder capacitors on each end of the neo piston could charge through brushes from copper rails inside the output coil core. The repulsion magnets would be positioned on the ends of the capacitors.
Each capacitor would have two brushes. We still need two current reversal DPDT switches at the ends of the output coil to reverse the polarity of the internal copper tracks, this way the capacitors can charge the same way in either direction. When the capacitor electrodes reach the end, they discharge through the Flynn switch.
We can recover this capacitor pulse with the addition of a secondary on the Flynn switch primary impulse coil.
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Hi Mark,
Thanks for your comments. I only indulge in these types of analyses once in a blue moon nowadays. The spaghetti almost never sticks so it's on average a futile effort. I am good at qualifying people and from my perspective Mark E is certainly a brilliant person in many scientific disciplines. It's the "big boys" that ultimately interest me the most and TK and Mark E made mincemeat of our magic water friend Wayne.
Some recent Wayne verbage:
"We have now finished the largest step of milestone four, the full scientific Simulation of the ZED system, we have the TAZ discovery process on hold during this important work. Our two teams engineering the Proof concept have respectively finished the preparation for optimizations and are now converging together for comparative analysis. This should take a few day, and then we are ready to build the properly engineered PoC. National Patent phase:"
Look at this doozie:
"To ensure we meet all of the expectations of our world changing technology, we decided not to present our systems we designed for component testing - instead we have concentrated our focus on a engineered system to meet the academic expectations, as well as the longevity of operation. We need to ensure that we run without the risk of fatigue and force damage - two considerations that the component testing did not cover."
Here is a guy that allegedly has a technology that will revolutionize the entire world, energy out of thin air from creaking groaning scary-sounding bellows, and he is allegedly worried about metal fatigue before he presents it to the world. So he will not show his system. What a joke and I hope that he gets busted Big Time.
Anyway, thanks again for the comments.
Synchro1, back to your "Flynn Gap."
MileHigh
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The 12 year old Pignataro patent stands on it's own. The Improved Flynn Switch may be able to ladder down a rung, so a miniature switch can trigger a larger magnet circuit. Yolking a scaled down trigger to substitute as an equal size larger alnico may reduce the millijoule input pulse power requirement. Success here would insure an OU COP!
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"Alternatively, a three-wire coil design has two windings in opposite directions. Power is then selectively applied by the device’s power source to one of the windings creating a certain polarity or applied to the other winding for the reverse polarity".
Three wires, two in opposite directions, around the two Flynn switch magnets would allow for a simpler reversal switch, along with pulse recovery.
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The "Improved Flynn Switch" can turn on and off and can be made to swivel in and out of place. It can snap into position behind a larger pair of keepers and turn on simultaineously. An extra large neo cylinder would be fixed in position between these larger keepers. This would complete a second level switch. This kind of swivel coupling would eliminate the larger neo field effect from linking up with the one behind it through the smaller switch keeper. This would increase the repulsion force by NINE TIMES on the magnet piston.
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Robert Murry Smith reports his magnets are 1/2cm in diameter, x 2cm,in length, one alnico one neo.: One hundred feet of 24 gauge wire and two steel keepers. He goes on to say a 20ufd 12v capacitor can deliver the pulse! I plan to use these materials for the base of the two tier swivel coupling.
Here's what a 12 volt 20 microfarad capacitor looks like:
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Introducing the new:
"SYNCHRO SWITCH".
Eureka! I just invented a very simple and super efficient power switch. In place of the alnico magnet I laterally positioned a 12 volt relay. The steel keepers have a ceramic magnet across the top. The steel keepers have a small permanent field now due to the magnetic circuit through the relay core when it's off.
When the relay's charged., the keeper field is amplified beyond the strength of the electromagnetic relay coil and magnet alone. When the relay current's reversed, the magnetic field drops dead altogether. Perfect for an iron rotor! The relay charges as the iron rotor approachs, magnifing the attraction field, then the current's reversed in the relay and the iron rotor's free to cleanly slip by. Two brief reversed pulses. I'm calling this the "Synchro Switch"! The swicth allows for three power settings. Power on positive; Maximum attraction. Power off; Partial attraction. Power reversed; Zero attraction! Perfect all magnetic motor power coil for an iron rotor!
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Those are tantalum caps, I believe. Be careful with those, they explode very nicely when overvolted sufficiently.
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Those are tantalum caps, I believe. Be careful with those, they explode very nicely when overvolted sufficiently.
Current reversal kills Tantalum capacitors. Good reason to avoid them!
The keepers and magnet strength of the "Relay Flynn Switch" determine the off position remnance. It can be eliminated entirely. The redirected relay flux can turn off additional attraction too, but too much magnet strength overpowers it.
This design would make a cool little "Scrap Yard Magnet" toy for a child with a battery and DPDT switch, suspended from a miniature crane and winch. A large scale up could spin a two axe head rotor, with two large magnet switches driving it.
Two batteries can run this kind of circuit through a commutator. One battery's reversed. Four relay power switchs could fire off the same connector strip and reverse current the same way through another strip from the turned around battery. Eight power switchs would only require wires to the commutator, not eight seperate costly DPDT reed switchs.
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Flynn measures 421 grams of lifting force with one bar magnet across the keepers. A second magnet delivers 1721 grams of lifting force. That's over FOUR times the strength. The magnet switch relay magnifies it's strength by a factor of FOUR times coupled with a PM of equal strength bridging the keepers. .
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LUTEC had a rotor geometry and commutator patented for their overunity generator.. The attraction event commenced when the puck shaped rotor was close to 25% into the keeper. The anihilation event triggers at TDC and carries foward untill the rotor's at 90 degrees. What ever happened to that outfit?
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The stated overunity of 362% in this generator is nearly exactly that of the Flynn coupling advantage: Look at the size of the timing wheel. I believe I'm at work redesigning their motor.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDDWhr84h0Q&list=PL84345FD1B3F576B2&index=18 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uDDWhr84h0Q&list=PL84345FD1B3F576B2&index=18)
They're using a current reversal circuit, thus the similarity. Apparently it stops there because it includes repulsion. Something to think about!
Quote from the LUTEC patent:
"That same principle is one of the reasons the Lutec 1000 motor turns, it is of course the spinning of the centre core of the motor which is caused by the permanent magnets being attracted and then repulsed from the steel cores of the fixed stator coils. It is this primary movement that allows the magnetic fields around the stator coils to be "cut" by the effect of the permanent magnets sweeping past the steel cores of the coils".
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Two relays in the keepers instead of the magnet would allow for the doubling of force but also a repulsion event. In which case rotor magnets would be needed. I believe this configuration would yield the same COP as the attraction version. The relays would be charged together then reversed together at rotor TDC, and held for a time.
On further consideration, if LUTEC uses a single solinoid coil, then the coupling advantage Twin Flynn Relays produce may boost the COP to over 10! Imagine a 4 Twin relay horseshoe power coil stator, and 4 pancake output coils. We can call this the "Flutec"!
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A third relay in the keepers would double the strength of the first two according to flynn's coupling rules. "THREE RELAY STATORS' with an attraction event followed by a current reversing repulsion event at TDC, and strong opposed neo disks on the rotor looks like the best approach so far. Then we'd get 8 times the strength of one relay for the cost of 3!
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The Radio Shack 12 volt relay costs $6.49. The entire 3 relay switch should cost around twenty dollars with a nice pair of ferrite keepers. I bought two 3" knuckle nuts at a marine hardware store that work great. One 3 relay Flynn switch should power a double 2 disk magnet rotor in repulsion through a reed switch in series with a 12 volt battery. A pancake output coil should reflect the 2.6 OU COP right off the bat from the coupling advantage alone. This test platform does not involve reversing current, but allows for switched reluctance option at TDC compzred to it's PM hybrid cousin..
Once again: The 3 coupled relays should have the force of 8 linked inside the ferrite yolk, 8/3=2.6 COP.
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It's necessary to break the electromagnet coil and magnetic core free of the caseing!
40A SPST 12VDC automotive relay, simple plug-in
Switch voltage: 14VDC
Relay coil rating: 12VDC
Relay coil power (W, mW): 1.6W
Nominal current at 68°: 133mA, nominal voltage: 12VDC
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Removing the coils from the relay caseings can turn a bit challenging when prying the final steel wall away from the core end. The core end's peened over it a little and it takes a little extra strength to pop it off. Test them after they're freed. I have 3 functioning electromagnetic coils sitting in a row on my test bench, and a bad one in my junk box from over prying on. New oversized knuckle nut keepers are next first thing Monday. I plan to wire the switch over a sping scale hook and test for strength by pulling a keeper off..
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Anguswangus has an interesting rotor with Leedskalnin output coils. His neo disks pass between the horseshoe keepers, held in opposition on either side of a bicycle bearing type rotor wheel. I think I'll try his approach.
High permeability ferrite keepers may cut down on remnance and saturation issues should they arise. Higher perm keepers will permit faster switching time and more r.p.m.'s.
Preliminary testing is very pomising for the Flynn coupling gain projections. The 4x the power with 2 magnets and again with 2 relays between the keepers has tested out to match Flynn's gain results. Two relays between the keepers really makes a hugh difference when energized together. The forceful locking effect of 4x's the strength shown with the second relay is awesome!
Anguswangus has also sucessfully demonstrated Lenz delay with his horsehoe type output coils and his opposed magnet overhead rotor.
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I built a 8" diameter plastic rotor into a pair of PVC upright's that house a set of 1/4" ball bearings. The Axel is matched in size to the width of the three relay electromagnet and keepers. It looks like a ferris wheel from the side. The improved "Synchro Switch" is positioned between the base legs, with the keepers facing upwards. A commutator crescent would fit nicely on the side of the rotor disk. A second one would permit polarity shift like the Lutec with the inclusion of a second battery. Extending the frame overhead would allow for the positioning of one or a number of AW(Anguswangus) horseshoe configured output coils. These coils demonstrate Lenz Delay at low r.p.ms. due the the long core lag time!
The two ceramic disks and the thickness of the rotor plate are narrower then the length of the electromagnetic coils. The rotor and the magnets fit cleanly between the keepers. The rotor is balanced true enough with ball bearings and PVC cups to clear the keepers closely without touching. I plan to glue eight disk magnets to the rotor. This build is falling together like magic. The PVC coupling's give the builder a broad range of options with the elbows, T's and cross's.
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All the shop tests failed. Robert Murray Smith's a fraud! The keepers don't polarize, and the remnance is too strong to allow a steel rotor to slip by.