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Author Topic: Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?  (Read 64769 times)

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Great Website! The videos on the right show Remote Healing By Video, and the Rise of the Kingdom of Germany...... it's great to see that "woo" translates so well.
I think we have some German people on this forum. Let one of them go and visit this new installation and watch it working! If they can find it, that is.

Hint: It never left Italy, it's still in one of Rossi's warehouses.

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Hint: It never left Italy, it's still in one of Rossi's warehouses.
This would not make much sense for the customers if it stays that way.

Remote Healing By Video? Why not? If the video says »stop smoking« the result could be a healthier body.

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This would not make much sense for the customers if it stays that way.

What customers?
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Remote Healing By Video? Why not? If the video says »stop smoking« the result could be a healthier body.

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Sure.... for the person who sold you the video, since he's now richer, and you are now poorer. And he's told you nothing you didn't already know (but he waved his hands at you while doing it.)

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What customers?
Should be revealed later this summer.

Sure.... for the person who sold you the video, since he's now richer, and you are now poorer. And he's told you nothing you didn't already know (but he waved his hands at you while doing it.)
But at least there are no harmful secondary effects for health -- contrary to some expensive pills from the drugstore.

But if due to the Rossi device the oil price (and with it the Dollar) is going to collapse soon a lot of people will need sedative pills from the store -- with or without secondary effects for health. ;D ::)

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"Should be revealed later this summer." ahhhhhh keeping up with traditations I see.... everything is always just around the corner..........

If you remember, Rossi's E-Cat was suppose to "reach market by October 2011"!!

in the free energy movement, there is no tomorrow, you either have proof now or you got nothing at all..

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Isn't that strange? A Pilot Customer for ECAT 1 MW plant is wanted in Sweden for »nothing at all«. ::)


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Re: Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?
« Reply #127 on: October 08, 2014, 09:24:32 PM »
The actual report.......

http://www.sifferkoll.se/sifferkoll/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/LuganoReportSubmit.pdf
(was published anyway - because magic hold@arXiv!?)



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Re: Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?
« Reply #128 on: October 08, 2014, 10:08:06 PM »
Determining output power using an IR camera is fraught with major sources of potential error.  Looking at their calculated values for radiated and convected heat one may observe that they had initial readings at ~800W input with reported 1733W radiated and 386W convected.  They increased the input power by 105W, IE and the convected values to 432W.   Input power increased by 13.1% and the calculated convection increased by 11.9%.  But the calculated radiated power increased to 2451W, a 41% increase in calculated output.  This strongly suggests that the calculations for radiated power are wrong.  Since the vast majority of output is based on the calculated radiated power, this is a major issue.

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Re: Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?
« Reply #128 on: October 08, 2014, 10:08:06 PM »
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Re: Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?
« Reply #129 on: October 08, 2014, 10:39:54 PM »
(..) They increased the input power by 105W, IE and the convected values to 432W.   Input power increased by 13.1% and the calculated convection increased by 11.9%.  But the calculated radiated power increased to 2451W, a 41% increase in calculated output.  (...)

To sum it up - you assume a strong nonlinear increase in COP as suspicious(!?)

The results are awesome - even if there would be an  systematical error of 50%.....


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Re: Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?
« Reply #130 on: October 08, 2014, 10:52:49 PM »
We can no longer ignore this.

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Re: Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?
« Reply #130 on: October 08, 2014, 10:52:49 PM »
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Re: Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?
« Reply #131 on: October 09, 2014, 12:31:46 AM »
To sum it up - you assume a strong nonlinear increase in COP as suspicious(!?)

The results are awesome - even if there would be an  systematical error of 50%.....
No, I evaluate that comparative calculations that do not correlate are likely incorrect.  Both convection and radiated heat emission increase with applied thermal power.   Their calculated increase in convection output fails to correlate with their calculated increase in radiated output.  The increase in their calculated convection correlates pretty well with their measured input power increase refuting the idea that they had a big non-linear jump as they calculated from their IR measurements.  They failed to discuss, perhaps because they failed to even notice, the important discrepancy in their calculated values.


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Re: Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?
« Reply #132 on: October 09, 2014, 12:32:19 AM »
We can no longer ignore this.
Sure we can.  The experiments are junk.  It has been nearly four years since Rossi first made his claims and three years since he claimed he delivered megaWatt scale generators and still there isn't a single clean experiment that corroborates his claims.

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Re: Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?
« Reply #133 on: October 09, 2014, 01:03:42 AM »
(...) and still there isn't a single clean experiment that corroborates his claims.

What claims ?
There was an almost independent third party test setup for 32 days...., done by academics in the field......

Rossi should participate on overunity forum to realize how clean and independent experimenting looks alike ;-)))))))))))))))

I think it´s the most convincing system and alternate energy supply in the field - maybe only the QEG might beat it.

rgds.


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Re: Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?
« Reply #134 on: October 09, 2014, 04:52:16 AM »
What claims ?
There was an almost independent third party test setup for 32 days...., done by academics in the field......

Rossi should participate on overunity forum to realize how clean and independent experimenting looks alike ;-)))))))))))))))

I think it´s the most convincing system and alternate energy supply in the field - maybe only the QEG might beat it.

rgds.


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