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Author Topic: Finally! Independent Testing Of Rossi's E-Cat Cold Fusion Device. Success?  (Read 65036 times)

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all the guy has to do is show accurate electrical input by placin the right test equipment and data recorders in series with the wall socket or main disconnect/breaker and the device.  Then we would have the total overall input power going in at all times including when the power input is reduced in the so called selfrun mode.  that is the first thing
 
then the output is going to be heat so you use the hot-cat to heat water and in an isolated water circuit.  using a heat exchanger you just use a second isolated water circuit which will safely cool the primary water circuit and you measure the second water circuit temp before and after it goes thru the heat exchanger with calibrated "K" thermocouple and multi-channel professional chart recorder.  afetr the it goes through the heat exchanger it will need to go thru a cooling tower and possibly a chiller so the water doesn't get too hot being recycled because the test should run for at least 3 weeks straight.
 
take your flow rates and heat measurements and then convert heat to kW thru known formulas and you have a conservative result.  everyone knows ALL heat exchangers are very INEFFICIENT so the result will always be lower than it really should be but if the hot-cat does half of what Ross says it does then it should have no problem showing higher output than input.
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But it doesn't, because it can't, and he knows it, so he won't.

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Offline OscarMeyer

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exactly. if any university really believed the results recorded in the latest round of testing, they would buy one of Ross' units and run monthlong testing of the unit because then ross could not interfere with any of the test parameters including the length of the test. after all this would be the single most important discovery in the last century so it would be a no-brainer to get the large unit that supposedly got sold to customers who are not proud of their product from ross and won't talk about it at all.   but the universities are not buying any of this and neither am I.
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Rossi's Free Energy invention is causing HITLER to PANIC.  Click on the link below to see it:  LOL
THIS IS A MASTERPIECE!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uX0vcU4iedQ

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"It appears there are some that believe that buying a 1MW E-Cat plant from Rossi would be a good idea, though many are doubtful this will ever happen.  It just so happens that there is indeed a group seeking to raise money to do just that.  To buy a 1MW plant for true independent testing of the device without any restrictions.  This group would be the Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project (MFMP).  A possibility that would be quite appropriate due to the legacy of the technology."  http://www.energy-shiftingparadigms.com/index.php/topic,4.msg4236.html#new
 
I would tak a picture of the page if I could but I do not have the sofware.  I WILL EAT MY SHIRT AND TAKE BACK MY WORDS if someone buys a unit for testing.......but the chances are slim to NONE!!!! 

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I watched Mark Dansie have a good rant about Rossi and the eCat on the last SmartScarecrow show.  So what first looked promising has apparently not panned out under closer inspection and there is a general consensus out there that the test was not definitive.

Enough to make a grown man cry.

Considering that there are billions and billions of tons of nickel on planet Earth it would be nice to get some good news.

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Offline profitis

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it,l take yeeeeaaars for mfmp to raise the money,whats the point?this crap about rossi having a 'secret catalyst'must end now.mfmp has the facilities to cook their own nickel on a tiny fraction of a 1.5milion budget for fucksakes,theyre in for a fastbuck(slowbuck) it seems which really freaks me out. 

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it,l take yeeeeaaars for mfmp to raise the money,whats the point?this crap about rossi having a 'secret catalyst'must end now.mfmp has the facilities to cook their own nickel on a tiny fraction of a 1.5milion budget for fucksakes,theyre in for a fastbuck(slowbuck) it seems which really freaks me out.
You are right.  they intend to do extensive testing 1st but afterwards they plan on setting the plant up to sell electricity to the grid and use the proceeds to repay the price of ross' unit.  not gonna work and no can do.
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@oscar im very scared that mfmp might rig their own experimental success now to boost confidence in donations,or at very least,self-delude themselves into overlooking a error while experimenting,the allure of money can have its own cold fusion effect on a humans brain.

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Sales start in Germany coming soon?

E-CAT DEUTSCHLAND GMBH

But I don't know whether »soon« means next week or next year or next decade. ???

And I don't know why they still have lots of sun panels on their roof. ::)

71384 Weinstadt, Stuttgarter Str. 34

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That looks like a 1MW module, the ones made with Rossi's old technology, made according to his patent application, that uses isotopically enriched nickel, lead shielding to thermalize the gammas, has a "self destruct mechanism" to keep out prying eyes and needs a 500 kW diesel genset running constantly for it to work, as shown in Rossi's demonstration of that unit for his military customers. Right?

Does the German distributor also provide the diesel genset, or must that be separately sourced?

I really think they should wait for the Hot Cat, don't you? No diesel genset needed, no dangerous gammas, no isotopic nickel, no clumsy and heavy lead shielding, no "self destruct" mechanism and a solid COP of 3 (even though Rossi has always 'guaranteed' six). Anyone would be a fool to waste money on that big 1MW plant when commercial release of the Hot Cat is just around the corner.

Right?

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brother in this game the word 'soon' is meaningless.i wish companies would shut up until they had something to show.

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