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Author Topic: Big try at gravity wheel  (Read 618360 times)

Offline mrwayne

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1350 on: April 06, 2014, 07:55:34 PM »
The fraud Wayne Travis speaks.  Having trouble keeping your story straight there Wayne?  Is your research:  "The Effect of Carney Blabber on People with Man in the Moon Marigold Dreams"?

ME, you are good with Personal insults.

I discovered long ago that criticisms from people without character have no value - and only offer a false security to the one hiding behind them.


Offline MileHigh

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1351 on: April 06, 2014, 10:36:52 PM »
Wayne:

You have raised funds in the past.  That's why you threw $2000 at Webby for proving nothing, it wasn't your money.

That money is being poured down the drain as we speak.  Chances are your Internet connection has been paid for with other people's money.

Your "Zydro team" is non-existent.  The Google search, "Zydro Energy Linkedin" yields nothing, nada, zero.  The Google search "Zydro Energy volunteer" yields nothing, nada, zero.

My personal belief is that "Team Zydro" is you and two or three other people that kick back, drink beer, watch movies, watch football and baseball games, and surf the net at your "empty open office space" office.  When outsiders visit, you pay a few unemployed locals that you know that hang around bars all day to show up and create the pretense that you have a company.

We are just sitting around waiting for the demise of Zydro Energy.  HydroEnergy Revolution is already dead, isn't it?  The real question is whether or not you get busted and go to jail.   Certainly you will never produce even a nano Joule of free energy from your glorified hydraulic jack that's contaminated with air bubbles.  I am sure that many astute 12-year-olds could see how preposterous your claim is.

Your little "Smile..." when asked about producing a working system says it all.  It never will happen.  Your job is to burn cash and look for more cash to burn.  That's why you are here, it's all part of your scheme to raise more cash to extend the burn.

MileHigh

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1352 on: April 06, 2014, 10:51:08 PM »
ME, you are good with Personal insults.

I discovered long ago that criticisms from people without character have no value - and only offer a false security to the one hiding behind them.
Gee Wayne does that mean that you're not going to extend an invitation to join your cadre:  the disciples of duplicity?  Please say it isn't so!

Offline mrwayne

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1353 on: April 07, 2014, 03:02:12 AM »
Wayne:

You have raised funds in the past.  That's why you threw $2000 at Webby for proving nothing, it wasn't your money.

That money is being poured down the drain as we speak.  Chances are your Internet connection has been paid for with other people's money.

Your "Zydro team" is non-existent.  The Google search, "Zydro Energy Linkedin" yields nothing, nada, zero.  The Google search "Zydro Energy volunteer" yields nothing, nada, zero.

My personal belief is that "Team Zydro" is you and two or three other people that kick back, drink beer, watch movies, watch football and baseball games, and surf the net at your "empty open office space" office.  When outsiders visit, you pay a few unemployed locals that you know that hang around bars all day to show up and create the pretense that you have a company.

We are just sitting around waiting for the demise of Zydro Energy.  HydroEnergy Revolution is already dead, isn't it?  The real question is whether or not you get busted and go to jail.   Certainly you will never produce even a nano Joule of free energy from your glorified hydraulic jack that's contaminated with air bubbles.  I am sure that many astute 12-year-olds could see how preposterous your claim is.

Your little "Smile..." when asked about producing a working system says it all.  It never will happen.  Your job is to burn cash and look for more cash to burn.  That's why you are here, it's all part of your scheme to raise more cash to extend the burn.

MileHigh
Wow - you took the time to write all that....You would make a farmer out to be a earth hater, a dairy farmer out to be a milk thief, and a doctor out to be a drug dealer......
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Ask any twelve year old this - If you pay $100 dollars for a bike, ride it to town and then sell the bike for $100 hundred.. ....how much did the ride cost?
Take as much time on answering this one simple question - and if you get it right - you will understand the ZED.
Right now - you are calling the boy a thief, liar, and fraud.... how embarrassing.
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Wayne
 
 

Offline orbut 3000

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1354 on: April 07, 2014, 04:00:54 AM »

Ask any twelve year old this - If you pay $100 dollars for a bike, ride it to town and then sell the bike for $100 hundred.. ....how much did the ride cost?
Take as much time on answering this one simple question - and if you get it right - you will understand the ZED.
Right now - you are calling the boy a thief, liar, and fraud.... how embarrassing.
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Wayne


How long did it take you to construct this hilariously stupid, malformed straw-man?

Offline mrwayne

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1355 on: April 07, 2014, 04:40:02 AM »

How long did it take you to construct this hilariously stupid, malformed straw-man?
Too hard???

Offline LibreEnergia

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1356 on: April 07, 2014, 05:22:26 AM »
Too hard???

In strictly monetary terms, obviously the ride cost nothing. Then again neither did it produce any excess output.
This whole 'energy reuse of the previous cycle' ruse is quite simply bullshit as an explanation as to how this device "works".

All that is really happening is attempt at confusion by you so that you might convince the simple minded.

It should be obvious that if some potential energy is alternately cycled between two objects then it is not important when determining if there is NET output for the two objects combined. This energy simply falls out of the overall energy balance when you correctly consider the WHOLE cycle.









Offline minnie

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1357 on: April 07, 2014, 11:10:06 AM »



     Trouble is you're getting less than 50 dollars, so if it wasn't that far it would be quite
     a expensive ride.
                        John.

Offline minnie

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1358 on: April 07, 2014, 12:51:43 PM »



   Do a little see saw experiment . Put an equal weight on each side and you'll  see it
    just sits there. You have to put a bit more on one side, it soon becomes apparent
    what's going to happen when you take half the weight off of the lighter side.
                  John.

Offline mrwayne

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1359 on: April 07, 2014, 02:25:11 PM »
In strictly monetary terms, obviously the ride cost nothing. Then again neither did it produce any excess output.
This whole 'energy reuse of the previous cycle' ruse is quite simply bullshit as an explanation as to how this device "works".

All that is really happening is attempt at confusion by you so that you might convince the simple minded.

It should be obvious that if some potential energy is alternately cycled between two objects then it is not important when determining if there is NET output for the two objects combined. This energy simply falls out of the overall energy balance when you correctly consider the WHOLE cycle.
If it seems like confusion... good point to stop and think..
Lets cut the system in half..... just to simplify.
Energy in to stroke
50% of the energy put in to each stroke comes from the previous production (the load lifted by the buoyancy),
Then an additional another 50% energy is put in from the other ZED.
Of course the lift efficiency is very important.... who want to pay $100 dollars for a Bike with one wheel.
p.s. our anomaly; The Zed Efficiency is improved over all other buoyancy devices - we can attain a lift value equal to the total input - easily (but lets just leave the lift value at 100%).
The lift value is "energy in versus energy out" - not force - just to be clear (poor assumptions have been made).
One side of the ZED lifts the load (production) and is equal to the energy put into it "equal" from both sources..Source one is part of the production, source two is the other ZED.
So the best we can have in a perfect world is 100% of the energy we put in-- right??? Of course.
Yes - the potential still in the Buoyancy is still worth 100% of the work we did...
Now - what we have is both the Load (production) and still have all the buoyancy in the system - what should we do with all that stored potential?
If we popped it up as MarkE suggested - that would be an awful loss.. that would be old school buoyancy - let the head pressure out to sink.....
Why not use it to offset the input cost of the other ZED.....gee that could reduce its cost by say 50% and then how much would it cost to stroke that side???
That's right 50%. That would suck if your buoyancy efficiency was 50%
Archimede's accounts for the displaced fluid, did you know that the air under pressure (stored energy) is equal to the cost of water that was "lifted" (stored energy) during the displacement, and the head and both of those are equal to the value of the buoyancy
Properly understood -  buoyancy has three equal values... the buoyancy, the air pressure, and the head pressure (raised water).
It does not matter how you shape the air in buoyancy - it is the same energy, it does not matter how you shape the buoyancy - it is the same energy - but as Red Sunset caught on so quickly...
The Water is a different story...... its value as head pressure is not locked into volume........
Energy can be observed by the "time distance and mass" Our system reduced the mass required - to do the same work of even a hydraulic cylinder - while improving the speed of operation.
Less load in - original work out - and much faster - 11 times faster in our first model....
The bicycle - is the energy flow between the two ZEDs ..... the money is paid and refunded at both ends.
Take care.
TomM showed that in the Travis effect video's many people missed it.
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So how much of the input to either ZED is a external to the system cost.....
How much of the production is reused.... that's right 50%... which leaves 50% for the consumer.
Now - it does take two ZEDs to provide the value of one ZED for free........ That's an ok price to pay...
 
The reason this works......... and all other buoyancy systems did not work....... because by adding the systems together (layers) in a serpentine input system, improved the efficiency of the buoyancy beyond what any one else has ever seen.
Yes adding layers improved the stand alone efficient function of buoyancy.
It was necessary to accomplish that first - other wise - we would have had the same "force" issues that all other buoyancy systems in the past faced.
Solving the right problem is key.
Thanks
 
 

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1360 on: April 07, 2014, 02:58:41 PM »
Déjà vu
secret of life,

Offline memoryman

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1361 on: April 07, 2014, 04:43:37 PM »
Mr. Travis, you wrote in a previous post "Our group has matured to realize that Energy Amplification and O/U are different things.
Energy amplification in the ZED can be shown in simple math - that deserves the term Super conservative.
O/U - which is defined by the puppet defense team is created energy - or energy from nothing.
Math is awesome - it separates the two, and a math error and correction - is learning.....".
Indeed, math is awesome. So, where is your math to show that OU is different from Energy Amplification? After all, amplification is making 'it' larger, which implies more than the original. So the end result would be a form of OU.
When can we see an actual device demonstrating without doubt that energy is multiplied? It has been 1.5 years since PESN posted their article.
Respectfully, memoryman (now posting as ngepro)

Offline mrwayne

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1362 on: April 07, 2014, 06:29:29 PM »
Mr. Travis, you wrote in a previous post "Our group has matured to realize that Energy Amplification and O/U are different things.

Indeed, math is awesome. So, where is your math to show that OU is different from Energy Amplification? After all, amplification is making 'it' larger, which implies more than the original. So the end result would be a form of OU.

When can we see an actual device demonstrating without doubt that energy is multiplied? It has been 1.5 years since PESN posted their article.
Respectfully, memoryman (now posting as ngepro)

Hello Sir,

First thank you.

Super conservative is the better term than amplification. Amplification does improperly describe or imply an increase.... which we do not do with our ZED system.

Our first system was a "10, 7, to 3 system" - which means Ideal of the system was 10, we re-used 7 to operate the system, and ended with 3 left over (from the 10).

Never any un accounted for energy in the system or coming from the system. a super conservative process which results in the input reduction.

Our out put comes from the difference between the production and the cost of the process.

We have reduced the cost below 20% of the output - so the output is 5 times the size of the cost. But not one bit of output is unaccounted for.

Of course we have optimized those designs and improved that ratio greatly.

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The maturity came with the hard look at why we were feverishly treated, as if we had stolen from some great indisputable author.

We began to understand that it was an assumption by many that a free energy device "must not conform to physics". An assumption that is not correct.

That assumption also lent to the belief that a black box would be proof - and a closed loop would be proof.

Even Data - is ignored if it can not be explained.

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We matured to understand that a black box - did not end the questions - only increased them.

We matured to understand that a closed looped system - did not end the questions - only increased them.

We learned those lessons the hard way - at great personal expense.

Our Data collection system opened our minds.... because we were able to verifiy the MATH - without violating any simple physics.
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We are in the business to provide actual devices - we are well funded, by investors that sought us out.

As to this moment - we are two weeks from having our Alpha model of our Rotary TAZ completed.

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I posted on this web site - for two reasons - support thinkers - and to deny the bullies...


Thank you.








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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1363 on: April 07, 2014, 09:41:07 PM »
We have a new date from the Mr. Wayne:

"As to this moment - we are two weeks from having our Alpha model of our Rotary TAZ completed."

Two weeks would be the 21st of April, but let's say "end of April".


Will we be able to see and to measure the Rotary TAZ at the end of April?


Or is it a non verifiable promise? That would be the stile of the Mr. Wayne.

I wish that the Mr. Wayne would stop bull shitting everybody. It is a bit old after this many years.


Greetings, Conrad

Offline mrwayne

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1364 on: April 07, 2014, 10:00:12 PM »
We have a new date from the Mr. Wayne:

"As to this moment - we are two weeks from having our Alpha model of our Rotary TAZ completed."

Two weeks would be the 21st of April, but let's say "end of April".


Will we be able to see and to measure the Rotary TAZ at the end of April?


Or is it a non verifiable promise? That would be the stile of the Mr. Wayne.

I wish that the Mr. Wayne would stop bull shitting everybody. It is a bit old after this many years.


Greetings, Conrad
Lol, have you "actually read" all the bull and mud slinging over these years.....it does get old.
You made an incorrect assumption - our "Dates" are not for public display.
Sorry - We shared the ZED - which is "no bull."
Wayne