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Author Topic: Big try at gravity wheel  (Read 650609 times)

Offline MarkE

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1215 on: February 23, 2014, 01:02:33 AM »
I will take my time and try to set the relevance of the numbers as I see them and what they represent.

I was also informed that I need to include the standard hydraulic lift that I am comparing against.

I got a laugh about the sig-dig,, but it is understandable and should not make any significant impact either way.
You have already taken almost three weeks and still have not presented anything meaningful.  You need to show your premise, your states, and your calculations.

Offline MarkE

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1216 on: February 23, 2014, 01:51:44 AM »
I will try and do so.

I think we already know that my premise is that there is energy left over with the method I am discussing, where as with a standard hydraulic lift there is not.
By premise, I mean the conditions at each state and the methods use to traverse from each state to the next.

Offline Marsing

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1217 on: February 23, 2014, 02:59:13 AM »
I will try and do so.

I think we already know that my premise is that there is energy left over with the method I am discussing, where as with a standard hydraulic lift there is not.

And use 2d drawing for each state you are going to explain,
your  energy transfer method that use rolling ball does not  make sense to get energy gain.

Offline minnie

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1218 on: February 24, 2014, 06:35:25 PM »



Hi,
   would the magic dissappear from the ZED if the air was replaced by something like
  liquid paraffin? The springiness of air is so difficult to deal with if you're trying to do
  a mathematical analysis,
                                John

Offline Marsing

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1219 on: February 25, 2014, 05:11:37 AM »
or water is replaced by mercury ( sg = 13.56 )
   air is replaced by water      ( sg = 1 )

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specific_gravity

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1220 on: February 25, 2014, 06:41:31 AM »


Hi,
   would the magic dissappear from the ZED if the air was replaced by something like
  liquid paraffin? The springiness of air is so difficult to deal with if you're trying to do
  a mathematical analysis,
                                John

The magic isn't in the ZED, it is in Wayne Travis. He plays the forthright Christian so well that the kind people of southern Oklahoma can't imagine that he could be lying to them.

Why not ask a really relevant question: What were Travis's electric bills for the last six months in that nice downtown Chickasha building?

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1221 on: February 25, 2014, 07:10:36 AM »
Note that during the recent discussions with Wayne and Red_Sunset, I don't think that there was a single comment from either of them about progress in any way.  Nothing about releasing a system or doing an installation or doing a demo.  There is just nothing there.  Wayne alleges that he has a "real company" and yet you look at the picture of his main office and see the wide open expanses of nothing.  Where is the "big team?"  Were is there any kind of Internet footprint?  There is simply nothing, just hollow talk.

Meanwhile I think Webby realizes that he can't just throw up a bunch of meaningless numbers, he has run out of personal political capital.  The only way for him to get any back would be to do what people have been asking of him, but it appears that he can't.

This whole thing is just another Steorn or Inteligentry.  Get money from other people and set up the pretense of a company, build some props, and make some YouTube clips.

Because of the variation in human behaviour, people like Wayne and Sean and John know that there is a lot of "low hanging fruit" deluded investor money out there.  Just look on this very forum and see people chasing after endless variations of simple electronic circuits and being convinced that the MIB/PTB are actively watching the people people demonstrating these circuits.  At the same time it's clear that some of the people demonstrating these circuits are clearly beginners in electronics and in fact some of them barely even understand electronics.  That doesn't stop the observers that are believers.

People fall on a Normal curve and there is a tiny slice of that Normal curve for people that are easily swayed by electronics quackery and a confidence artist pitch.   Even the singer Neil Young has clips on YouTube where he states that he believes that there is a free energy car just around the corner.  If I recall correctly he fell for the "rotorverter" pitch.

Hopefully, this thread will help some people not part with their money.

It makes me think of a famous quote:

"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."  - Edmund Burke  (1729-97)

MileHigh

Offline minnie

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1222 on: February 25, 2014, 09:37:37 AM »



   Hi,
       come on you scientists, this riddle must be solved. Someone mentioned mercury, could
   it be that something could be exaggerated to show any possible effect?
        How about very tall cylinders or say a hundred risers or exotic materials?
    My own feeling is that this thing will just stick to the rules nature dictates. When
   almost anything happens nature does the equations instantly and so precisely.
                              John.

Offline mrwayne

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1223 on: February 25, 2014, 02:26:57 PM »


I think we already know that my premise is that there is energy left over with the method I am discussing, where as with a standard hydraulic lift there is not.

Hello Webby,

I am impressed with your ability to keep your head during the 'conversations'.

The point you are making here is not missed by all, the people that understand the relevance are looking forward to your message.

I encourage you to know that there are hundreds behind your efforts - and just a few disruptors.

Your are way ahead of that team.

Wayne



Offline MileHigh

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1224 on: February 25, 2014, 02:38:21 PM »
On February 25, 2016, Wayne will have delivered nothing, nada, zero.  He may still be around selling nothing, or he and his company will have vanished into thin air.  On the other hand, one can hope that law enforcement catches up with him.

Offline MarkE

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1225 on: February 25, 2014, 02:46:00 PM »
Hello Webby,

I am impressed with your ability to keep your head during the 'conversations'.

The point you are making here is not missed by all, the people that understand the relevance are looking forward to your message.

I encourage you to know that there are hundreds behind your efforts - and just a few disruptors.

Your are way ahead of that team.

Wayne
Wayne Travis, there is no free energy to be had cyclically lifting and dropping: rocks, water volumes, air volumes, lollipops or pistachio nuts, or any combination of the above.

Offline minnie

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1226 on: February 25, 2014, 03:44:54 PM »



  Hi,
     part of our business deals with gas distribution. Just a couple of facts about pressure
   and flow. The 120 cm main pipes run at about 85 bar. A gas turbine is used to propel
   the gas at speeds up to 25mph.
                     John.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1227 on: February 25, 2014, 04:08:22 PM »
Here's a condensed version of Travis's business plan:

Fail, flail and bail.

We are now witnessing the "flail" portion of the plan. Sooner or later, Travis will have to Bail --- or be bailed out of Jail.

Offline minnie

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1228 on: February 25, 2014, 05:00:01 PM »



    TinselKoala and MarkE, you're both sounding rather hostile towards poor
     Mr. Travis
                  John.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Big try at gravity wheel
« Reply #1229 on: February 25, 2014, 05:24:19 PM »


    TinselKoala and MarkE, you're both sounding rather hostile towards poor
     Mr. Travis
                  John.

There is not much that makes me angrier than a "Christian" who looks me in the eye, shakes my hand, and then proceeds to lie to me.