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Gravity powered devices => Gravity powered devices => Topic started by: Gabriele on May 02, 2013, 08:44:51 PM

Title: Gravity engine
Post by: Gabriele on May 02, 2013, 08:44:51 PM
I find interesting the behavior of this apparathus ideated from myself.

The resultant of the forces on circumference of 2 liquids are perpendicular to the base. We have also a torque on the vertical wall.

If we fix the base to the center of a force of gravity,this should rotate,right?
Title: Re: Gravity engine
Post by: conradelektro on May 02, 2013, 09:00:28 PM
This will be the end of it.

Greetings, Conrad
Title: Re: Gravity engine
Post by: Gabriele on May 02, 2013, 09:07:33 PM
You have pointed the center in center of ball. This isn't what i ment. You have to fix the ball on the base. With a long tube reach the center of the earth. So this ball should rotate right cause momentums.
Title: Re: Gravity engine
Post by: conradelektro on May 02, 2013, 09:13:26 PM
You have pointed the center in center of ball. This isn't what i ment. You have to fix the ball on the base. With a long tube reach the center of the earth. So this ball should rotate right cause momentums.

I do not understand what you mean. But it does not matter, because nobody can build a tube that reaches to the centre of the earth.

Never mind, Conrad

Title: Re: Gravity engine
Post by: Gabriele on May 02, 2013, 09:13:55 PM
Should appen this

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I know this is impossible to build,but it seems go counter 1law of thermodinamics,from my point of view
Title: Re: Gravity engine
Post by: Gabriele on May 02, 2013, 09:24:37 PM
And than this rod thea reachs the center in the earth isn't a propblem. We can build a perfect circumference around earth and fix the ball to it. It should rotate anyway

Question of momentums

Cause rotation isn't causated by vertical forces but orizzontal,should roll
Title: Re: Gravity engine
Post by: conradelektro on May 02, 2013, 09:25:28 PM
Gedankenexperimente are much too difficult for me.

Most of the things that can be built are already too difficult for me.

Sorry I disturbed your thoughts, Conrad
Title: Re: Gravity engine
Post by: Gabriele on May 02, 2013, 09:30:42 PM
You didn't disturbed me affact. I like to confrontate with others. This is only a point of view
Title: Re: Gravity engine
Post by: Low-Q on May 03, 2013, 07:35:43 PM
If it was possible to build this thing, it would not work. The "ball" is fixed into position relative to the center of gravity no matter where on earth the "ball" is located, so the "ball" will never see where its equilibrium is, and therefor finds no reason to start moving.


Vidar
Title: Re: Gravity engine
Post by: Gabriele on May 05, 2013, 04:53:21 PM
What appens to the torque?
Title: Re: Gravity engine
Post by: Low-Q on May 06, 2013, 12:24:31 PM
What appens to the torque?
There is no torque because you do not let the ball rotate relative to gravity.
The torque present in the ball is countertorqued by the string or rod that keeps the ball in position.
You could likely fix the ball upon a car with wheels. Will the car start to move if the ball is heavier in the front or rear? Most cars have approx 40/60 weight distribution on rear/front wheels. They do not automaticly start running for that reason. It is the same principle you're dealing with with your experiment.


It will not work. Sorry.


Vidar
Title: Re: Gravity engine
Post by: Gabriele on May 06, 2013, 05:44:07 PM
The forces causes the torque are not vertical,so not perpendicular to gravity. They are orizzontal. If i imagine a ball with 2 forces perpendicular to the center is obvious it don't rotate. But if these 2 forces are tangent to the center it should cause a rolling...
Title: Re: Gravity engine
Post by: Rafael Ti on May 06, 2013, 06:43:53 PM
The forces causes the torque are not vertical,so not perpendicular to gravity. They are orizzontal. If i imagine a ball with 2 forces perpendicular to the center is obvious it don't rotate. But if these 2 forces are tangent to the center it should cause a rolling...
Hi Gabriele
The idea of overbalanced wheel is to use rather equal weights acting on opposite sides of fulcrum, than weights of different masses.
There is some interesting ideas based on Bhaskara's Wheel concept where fluid is used as weight.

http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/themes/centgrav.htm (http://www.lhup.edu/~dsimanek/museum/themes/centgrav.htm)

Your 3D spherical concept with fluid is quite interesting.
All the best
Title: Re: Gravity engine
Post by: Gabriele on May 06, 2013, 07:05:04 PM
If you note,the ball i drew roll (untill she reech equilibrium). I'm on the idea that if you place the fylcrum on the base,the same of the center of gravity,she will roll forever.
Title: Re: Gravity engine
Post by: Gabriele on April 11, 2014, 12:21:42 PM
I'm on the idea that if you place this ball on the sea,she will move