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Author Topic: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater  (Read 77190 times)

profitis

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Re: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater
« Reply #120 on: July 09, 2013, 04:59:29 AM »
@gmeast ..im glad you pointed out the nichrome composition to me as i had earlier thought that  becoz ainslies circuit didnt have a ferrite core through the coils that there was no vehicle for creation of magnetic domains but now i see otherwise.nickel and iron in the wire itself indeed are magnetized.

profitis

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Re: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater
« Reply #121 on: July 09, 2013, 05:07:00 AM »
@pw i wouldnt be surprised if steorn is fully aware of the thermodynamic discrepencies i described on my thread which you ran away from in terror.

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Re: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater
« Reply #122 on: July 09, 2013, 05:32:50 AM »
@pw i wouldnt be surprised if steorn is fully aware of the thermodynamic discrepencies i described on my thread which you ran away from in terror.

I did not run away at all.  I walked away from someone who states their "beliefs" and theories as if they are proven facts.  Your compressed air analogy was a good one.  It clearly demonstrates the conservation of energy.

Do you understand Steorn's HephaHeat technology?  The main point is the use of steel as opposed to water for thermal storage.  It allows for higher temp storage, power usage off peak, etc.  The inductive heater part of it is rather trivial.  No claims of OU.  Probably the first sensible thing to come from Steorn.

But to mention the HephaHeat technology as if it somehow bolsters or proves your beliefs regarding inductors?  That's a bit of a stretch...

I better go now, wouldn't want the OP to start spouting foul language...

PW


 

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Re: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater
« Reply #123 on: July 09, 2013, 06:52:12 AM »
I did not run away at all.  I walked away from someone who states their "beliefs" and theories as if they are proven facts.  Your compressed air analogy was a good one.  It clearly demonstrates the conservation of energy.

Do you understand Steorn's HephaHeat technology?  The main point is the use of steel as opposed to water for thermal storage.  It allows for higher temp storage, power usage off peak, etc.  The inductive heater part of it is rather trivial.  No claims of OU.  Probably the first sensible thing to come from Steorn.

But to mention the HephaHeat technology as if it somehow bolsters or proves your beliefs regarding inductors?  That's a bit of a stretch...

I better go now, wouldn't want the OP to start spouting foul language...

PW

TOO LATE! You just can't avoid contaminating my thread can you? Your conduct opitomizes that of a bully or of a spoiled brat ... actually there's little difference. Stay the f--- out of my thread. You offer little of any consequence. You obviously have no (working) knowledge of how certain alloys, nano-particles, and rapid edge transitioning pulses interact to produce the anomalous excess energies that have been observed by so many competent experimenters and researchers. As I said, "Stay the f--- out of my thread". Your perpetual 'buzzing around' is annoying. You and your 'gang members' have referred to me as a 'troll'. What the f--- does your conduct make you? ... a F-----G TROLL ... that's what!


PLEASE DON'T ANSWER THE QUESTION.

Thank you


What's wrong with you Hartmann to let this crap take place in these forums ... HUH? What's wrong with you? ??? ??? ??

picowatt

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Re: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater
« Reply #124 on: July 09, 2013, 06:57:18 AM »
TOO LATE! You just can't avoid contaminating my thread can you? Your conduct opitomizes that of a bully or of a spoiled brat ... actually there's little difference. Stay the f--- out of my thread. You offer little of any consequence. You obviously have no (working) knowledge of how certain alloys, nano-particles, and rapid edge transitioning pulses interact to produce the anomalous excess energies that have been observed by so many competent experimenters and researchers. As I said, "Stay the f--- out of my thread". Your perpetual 'buzzing around' is annoying. You and your 'gang members' have referred to me as a 'troll'. What the f--- does your conduct make you? ... a F-----G TROLL ... that's what!


Thank you 


What's wrong with you Hartmann to let this crap take place in these forums ... HUH? What's wrong with you? ??? ??? ??

I was respondng to Profitis..

Carry on with your tantrum...

gmeast

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Re: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater
« Reply #125 on: July 09, 2013, 07:41:53 AM »
I was respondng to Profitis..

Carry on with your tantrum...


I'm glad EVERYONE can see who the antagonist is here. What a child you are. I told you if you you want to carry on a conversation with someone else, do it via a private message. The respect you're going to garner from your bullshit here will be valuable to you I'm sure. I think I'll just see how far you'll go with this crap.


For anyone interested in the information I've assembled about my continuing research, you can find it on both Energetic Forum and  Heretical Builders.  I have moderator privileges on Heretical Builders so I can easily eliminate PicoWatts's bullshit. On Energetic Forum, I'm sure I can convince Aaron to do the same on my behalf.


Thank you

profitis

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Re: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater
« Reply #126 on: July 09, 2013, 05:11:40 PM »
@pw..enough about steorn.my beliefs and theories on my thread are founded on a very well established fact,,magnetic order is temperature dependant,,as simple as that.

profitis

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Re: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater
« Reply #127 on: July 09, 2013, 06:49:24 PM »
@gmeast..it seems there is a discrepency even in gaseous thermodynamics,ive just been reading about the proell-effect,realy interesting.ive heard rumours on this forum,even from antagonists, about heat pumps exceeding 100percent efficiency but having no way to convert the heat gains into useful work exceeding the effiency threshold.with inductor circuits acting as the heat pump we are theoreticaly able to do this all in one step,ie.direct conversion of ambient heat into electrical energy.

gmeast

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Re: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater
« Reply #128 on: July 09, 2013, 07:43:37 PM »
@gmeast..it seems there is a discrepency even in gaseous thermodynamics,ive just been reading about the proell-effect,realy interesting.ive heard rumours on this forum,even from antagonists, about heat pumps exceeding 100percent efficiency but having no way to convert the heat gains into useful work exceeding the effiency threshold.with inductor circuits acting as the heat pump we are theoreticaly able to do this all in one step,ie.direct conversion of ambient heat into electrical energy.


Heat pumps are a unique case when it comes to efficiency. Unlike electric, gas and fuel oil heaters which all create heat in a single environment, a heat pump is merely 'moving' heat from one environment to another. The only work the heat pump's compressor must do is to create a sufficient temperature differential at the condenser so that heat can be transferred from it, and the same thing at the evaporator ... only sufficient temperature differentials for heat flow to it. Really huge evaporators and condensers make these things very efficient, but not cost effective.


I've tried drawing a parallelism between the Inductive Resistor Heater and the Heat Pump, but I have been unsuccessful in doing so in my attempts to develop a working theory for the heater.

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Re: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater
« Reply #129 on: July 10, 2013, 01:43:17 AM »

I have moderator privileges on Heretical Builders so I can easily eliminate PicoWatts's bullshit. On Energetic Forum, I'm sure I can convince Aaron to do the same on my behalf.


Thank you


That's great, can you please post a direct links to your moderated threads?

profitis

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Re: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater
« Reply #130 on: July 10, 2013, 01:55:25 AM »
@gmeast..google 'steven j.smith magnetothermodynamics 3'i cant put a link here but you will see a brief one-page analysis of the thermodynamic cycle of a standard inductor core and how it can theoreticaly breach the 2nd law.it may help you to formulate a reference for future research.this is where i borrowed my theory from and tried to put  in language that most can understand.

gmeast

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Re: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater
« Reply #131 on: July 10, 2013, 05:54:44 AM »

That's great, can you please post a direct links to your moderated threads?


Not much has been posted there lately and they contain practically identical content. I'm presently attempting to gather some resources so I can take the next steps: 1) ultracapacitor bank 2) alter the circuit to be self-oscillating ... this one is the biggest challenge of all.


The links:
http://www.energeticforum.com/inductive-resistor/13925-exploring-inductive-resistor-heater.html


http://www.hereticalbuilders.com/forumdisplay.php?f=21


My Channel and the Inductive Resistor Heater Video Slide Show:
http://www.youtube.com/user/gmeast






gmeast

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Re: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater
« Reply #132 on: July 10, 2013, 06:03:23 AM »
@gmeast..google 'steven j.smith magnetothermodynamics 3'i cant put a link here but you will see a brief one-page analysis of the thermodynamic cycle of a standard inductor core and how it can theoreticaly breach the 2nd law.it may help you to formulate a reference for future research.this is where i borrowed my theory from and tried to put  in language that most can understand.


Why can't you put that link here? I just looked at it ... pretty heady stuff. Thanks for the reference.

gmeast

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Re: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater
« Reply #133 on: July 10, 2013, 09:02:41 PM »

Heat pumps are a unique case when it comes to efficiency. Unlike electric, gas and fuel oil heaters which all create heat in a single environment, a heat pump is merely 'moving' heat from one environment to another. The only work the heat pump's compressor must do is to create a sufficient temperature differential at the condenser so that heat can be transferred from it, and the same thing at the evaporator ... only sufficient temperature differentials for heat flow to it. Really huge evaporators and condensers make these things very efficient, but not cost effective.


I've tried drawing a parallelism between the Inductive Resistor Heater and the Heat Pump, but I have been unsuccessful in doing so in my attempts to develop a working theory for the heater.


Clarifying: that the size of the Evaporator is pretty closely tied to the compressor's ratings/capacities ie. pressure, flow, refrigerant whereas the condenser can be huge thus requiring a lower temp differential for the same rate of heat rejection/transfer, but again, not cost effective.

profitis

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Re: Exploring the Inductive Resistor Heater
« Reply #134 on: July 11, 2013, 01:54:57 AM »
@gmeast.. cant post links coz im on opera mini compression on a phone.are you using lead acid batteries there gmeast.do they have openings that you can open up.theres a very nice way to gauge total power in lead-acid systems.