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Author Topic: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".  (Read 422292 times)

Offline MileHigh

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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #780 on: January 26, 2014, 01:21:57 AM »
Synchro1:

There is no need to worry about 7.8 Hz or any harmonics of 7.8 Hz.  The whole thing is a red herring.  My suggestion to you is to take one of your bigger coils and find a decent-sized non-polarized capacitor and do some experiments with resonance and find out for yourself.

I am willing to bet you that in almost every "delayed Lenz effect" clip you find on YouTube the real explanation for the acceleration under load is because the power draw of the coil goes down when you add the load resistor and that reduces the load on the prime mover and as a result the rotor speeds up.  It's just one of those follies in the realm of free energy.  How many amateur experimenters have you seen measure the total coil power dissipation before and after adding the load resistor?

For your "self accelerating reed switch magnet spinner" the same type of investigation should be done.  In all likelihood, the same principle will apply and you will find out that the speed increases for the same reason.

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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #780 on: January 26, 2014, 01:21:57 AM »

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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #781 on: January 26, 2014, 01:43:09 AM »
The issue is amplifying magnetic field oscillation in a permanent magnet output coil core by coupling rotor resonance and LC tank resonance, not DLE.


The oscillating frequency of the magnet core can be determined easily by test pulsing if the 7.8 common denominator proves to be ineffectual. Once the resonant frequency of the magnets is established, the frequency of the output coil LC tank can be established along with the rotor RPM. 


Getting the output coil magnet core field flux to agitate generates copious output. Conradelektro needs to return to his testing of the "Synchro coil" with these worthwhile goals in view.  

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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #782 on: January 26, 2014, 01:53:57 AM »
The magnets that you play with on your bench don't have a resonant frequency.  Your clip with the virtual compass needle oscillating is essentially showing you mechanical resonance between a mass and an invisible magnetic spring.

If you have a scope then you can try out your theories.  If you execute and measure properly then we can look at your data.

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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #782 on: January 26, 2014, 01:53:57 AM »
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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #783 on: January 26, 2014, 03:07:25 AM »

@Milehigh,

We started out positioning the stack of diametric ring magnets in adjacency to the spinning rotor explicitly to experience the flutter that Conradelektro reported. Look at the "Dancing magnets" video again. You see increased oscillation visibly there.


The "Synchro coil" Conradelektro overwound doesn't collect any flux in the outer wraps from those magnets buried deep inside the core. First of all, he reduced the rotor speed below the frequency that produced the essential "Flutter" oscillation from the excessive Lenz drag on his flimsy darning needle rotor due to the overly thick windings. I instructed him to connect a 100uf electrolytic capacitor to a lightly wrapped coil in the 4uH range, a tenth of the thickness, which would have yielded an LC tank frequency of 7.8.


Conradelektro needs to repeat the "FLUTTER TEST", then determine the actual rotor speed on his new set up. Next, he needs to strip around 25uH of wire off the coil. We can move forward with the necessary alterations from that point toward a successful and fulfilling conclusion to this experiment.    


The other question is, who hired you on as Conradelektro's nanny?

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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #784 on: January 26, 2014, 03:02:21 PM »

@Milehigh,


This is a quote from Conradelektro. His rotor speed was 2500 RPM when he got the rattling effect. This was a "MAGNETIC RESONANCE EFFECT". He awarded me a badge for discovering it:

"I just held 6 diametrically magnetised ring magnets (stuck together) near the spinning magnet. They also rattle (all of them) and I have to stay a bit further away from the spinning magnet than with only two ring magnets between my fingers (in order not to slow the spinning magnet down)".


320 X 7.8 = 2500! That would require an LC tank frequency of approximately 40 hertz. An electrolytic capacitor of 4.6563e+5   Microfarad's would bring his 34uH "Synchro coil" into resonace at that RPM.



@Milehigh,


Just a note on the personal side. The fact that you would boldly deny even so much as the existence of something so commonly recognized as "Magnetic Resonance" is one more example of your chronic and egregious "befuddelry".  You are an arrogant free energy supressionist, and I deeply resent your persistent undermining of anything worthwhile on this community web site. You are a bane to everyone sincere about advancing free energy, and should be thrown off this web site entirely for constantly causing trouble.

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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #784 on: January 26, 2014, 03:02:21 PM »
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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #785 on: January 26, 2014, 04:00:33 PM »
Synchro1:

Refer to post #566 in this thread.

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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #786 on: January 26, 2014, 04:08:15 PM »

Here's post 556, just what's the problem here?


Here's the "Old Scientist" tuning a bifilar coil LC tank with a variable air capacitor:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CcxJogghxY

He concludes that a bifilar coil has strong harmonics but is not influenced in the same way a standard or parallel LC tank circuit would be, due to the "resonance between the capacitor and the self capacitance of the coil".


In other words, the virtual LCC tank resonance of the bifilar tank is not as easily influenced by interference like a standard LC tank, and more stable!

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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #786 on: January 26, 2014, 04:08:15 PM »
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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #787 on: January 26, 2014, 08:43:35 PM »
Synchro1:

Refer to post #566 (five hundred and sixty-six) in this thread.

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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #788 on: January 26, 2014, 09:13:06 PM »
@synchro1:

In this post http://www.overunity.com/13852/self-accelerating-reed-switch-magnet-spinner/msg381222/#msg381222 I explained my error of judgement concerning the rattling. And the badge was given while I was still making this error of judgement.

Everything you wanted me to test had a negative result. Everything you write in your posts is mainly nonsense.

I would very much appreciate if you stopped referring to my errors, I admit them, no need to turn anything around. I did not see any effect you are claiming.

Please do not address me in your posts I will not respond. You are entitled to your opinions but they are not my opinions.

I am not mad, you may do whatever you want, but I am sick and tired of your posts specially if you involve me.

It was a grave error of judgement to ever engage in a conversation with you. I am sorry that I did experiments inspired by you, because you then behaved like I am your experimenter. You got this wrong, I am not doing your experiments. It is sad that you can not do experiments, but I do not consider this as my problem.

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #788 on: January 26, 2014, 09:13:06 PM »
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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #789 on: January 27, 2014, 02:56:09 AM »
@Conradelektro,


You're a sorry failure. I could make that coil work in ten miniutes. All your pancake test results are worthless Mickey Mouse gimmicks; Running milliwatts of D.C power through a coil designed to work on AC current. Utter nonsense!


I'm the one filled with regret over you radically altering my coil design, then pronouncing your version a flop with my name attached to it. You're a Conrad Veidt fossil from the "Cabinet of Dr. Caligari", Herr Professor serf of MH.

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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #790 on: January 27, 2014, 06:14:59 AM »
@Conradelektro,


You're a sorry failure. I could make that coil work in ten miniutes. All your pancake test results are worthless Mickey Mouse gimmicks; Running milliwatts of D.C power through a coil designed to work on AC current. Utter nonsense!


I'm the one filled with regret over you radically altering my coil design, then pronouncing your version a flop with my name attached to it. You're a Conrad Veidt fossil from the "Cabinet of Dr. Caligari", Herr Professor serf of MH.

The above is absolutely atrocious garbage.  There are limits to this and people deserve to be treated with respect.  And your comments are lies, Conrad has done some great work and you yourself are fully aware of that.  Your 'fantasy world' that you inhabit around here is fooling nobody.  You are either faking all of this and playing the ass or you need psychological help.  If you are just faking it all, then it's arguable that you still need psychological help.  Don't expect me to respond.

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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #790 on: January 27, 2014, 06:14:59 AM »
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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #791 on: January 27, 2014, 07:50:41 AM »
Synchro, Obviously I'm not a moderator here, but if I was one, you would be banned by I.P. address. That abusive kind of response is not acceptable in my opinion. That's crossed the line.

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Conrad, I applaud your build and your experiments and demonstrations are very much appreciated.
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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #792 on: January 27, 2014, 03:13:48 PM »
I have not given up the tests, but my old bifilar Bedini coil with the many turns has outlived its usefulness, because it has two different wires and the number of turns is unknown. The two wires are also wound in a haphazard way, almost never next to each other. The coil was good enough to test my magnet spinner with the 12 V DC motor and to learn measurement methods with my function generator and scope.

I am currently building and winding two new coils, one bifilar and the other monofilar, otherwise identical. The idea is still to find useful differences between a bifilar and a monofilar coil. There might be none, but I want to see that myself.

As always, it will take some time and I might create a new thread (e.g. "Differences between monofilar and bifilar coils") once my two new coils are ready.

Maybe someone has a better idea about how to name a new thread?

Greetings, Conrad

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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #793 on: January 27, 2014, 04:58:51 PM »
To the KRUP WERK'S:


Conradelektro succeeded in achieving a rattling effect in a stack of diametric magnets. Then he placed the magnets inside the core of a solenoid wire coil and could not reproduce the effect. Then he went on to maintain that the effect was commonplace and could easily be produced even with iron. He also offered a theory on why he believes there is a rattling effect, and this theory of his rules out any kind of magnetic oscillation, but he says it's a result of the push and pull of the opposite poles of the rotor magnet, but it dosen't invole "Magnetic Resonance". Why is it that Conradelektro couldn't reproduce the effect on the stack of magnets after he placed them inside the wire coil, regardless of what kind of theory he uses to explain it? This was a stupid failure of Conradelektro's right at the very out set. At first he thought this rattling effect amounted to something, then he realized it was just stupid after he lost it! Conradelektro built an induction coil for Milehigh to prove there's no value in my design. I warned him plenty about that in advance!


Producing the "Rattleing effect" in a stack of diametric neo magnets oscillates the magnetic flux outside the core. This effect would be absent with a piece of iron.


Milehigh has said very, very stupid things that no one should allow to pass unchecked. Like "Science proves magnetic resonance is impossible" "The whole thing is a red herring". and so forth. I refuse to just stand by idly while a click of pseudo intellectual fraud's discredit truly great inventors like Nicola Tesla, and gain false esteem as a negative consequence. None of you clowns can come up to Nicola's sock tops! Some of you conceited phony's are calling for censorship because my insults are viewed as deprecating. I'm trying to alert others to your obvious monarchistic "petro bias".        
 

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Re: Tesla's "COIL FOR ELECTRO-MAGNETS".
« Reply #794 on: January 27, 2014, 05:49:38 PM »

Think about the relationship of coil pulse frequency and the magnet oscillation in this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Qe9t1Hwuo


How does this magnet oscillation compare to the flux field oscillation in Conradelektro's stack of neo magnets?


Think about this gentlemen: What would the result be if we held this oscillating tube magnet stationary, and wrapped a wire coil around it, then resumed the power coil pulsing? Would a charge appear in the coil, and if so, what kind of effect would changing the pulse frequency of the power coil have on raising and lowering the charge level of the stationary tube magnet output coil wrap? This wire coil would wrap directly over the magnet just like Conradelektor's "Synchro coil". What would happen if you over wrapped it? It would work just as stupid, right? 


This is the "Dragone effect" I demonstrated in several of my videos!


Try and answer this question for yourselves!

 

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