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### Author Topic: The main question is: Why Gravity takes effect on Matter?  (Read 46828 times)

#### gravityblock

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##### Re: The main question is: Why Gravity takes effect on Matter?
« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2013, 09:36:24 AM »

#### derekwillstar

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##### Re: The main question is: Why Gravity takes effect on Matter?
« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2013, 10:39:48 AM »
Biggest proof yet regarding the origin of Gravity!

Gravock

Perfectly agree that gravity is a push!
Gravity is the force resulting from the rapid pushing force (descending from the sun) and the slowest of repulsion (the sun ascending from the center of the earth).

the speed difference between the two flows is the gravity (the flow is dominant pushing from the sun, while the one coming from the center of the earth, balance and compensates the gravity).

http://peswiki.com/images/c/ce/Ed_Leedskalnin-pushpull.gif

In the example of the link there is a pendulum, that is correct, as it is correct that the pendulum has a foothold!

So if we are pushed, the fulcrum, is the sun, in the case that we are repelled, the fulcrum is the center of the earth.
This means that the earth is firmly locked between these two forces.
the planet does not move!
that moves is just everything we see, the light carried by the flow of monopolar energy from the sun (spiral vortex)! http://www.fortunadrago.it/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/Chamber-Nautilus-cosmos-Eso.jpg

Ultimately, the nature does not move planetary masses, but only the energy.
So that everything we see (the alternation of day and night) is just a wonderful deception!

P.S.
A delicate child (the creation) to sit still would put in a safe place, or on a fast running ferrari without a pilot?

#### derekwillstar

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##### Re: The main question is: Why Gravity takes effect on Matter?
« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2013, 11:34:28 AM »

I in fact know who was the originator of the video. But as you can see from any video with a bright pattern like the yellow mat he used under the device that it causes pixilation errors in the video due to the digital transform process. It is a sort of matrixing even that happen to edges of dark with bright patterned backgrounds. matrixing is a product of those patterns when converting one resolution to the next. In fact most video cards have a driver based algorythem that deals with this problem on a hardware level. Antialiasing is this algorythem.

It is a well know effect and There is a fix for it but only in the video hardware. Since YouTube is come of age it still has not dealt with this issue and most video cameras do not deal with it as well. If this would happen with an analogue video camera I would be inclined to look into it but it doesn't. matrixing is a digital effect and not an analogue one.

As for gravity what does this have to do with it? A magnetic field has nothing to do with gravity. It is the effect of the electric field on space and matter. First you need the potential field and then expose matter to the field and then you get a current, which we call magnetic current. Without the electric field there is no current and hence no magnetic field.

http://peswiki.com/images/c/ce/Ed_Leedskalnin-pushpull.gif

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If you want to understand gravity one needs to understand the electric field and how it interacts with matter to create a pull towards the center of the mass. If you look at the periodic table you will see that all matter has a standing potential or commonly called electro negativity. lets look at copper for instance: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copper

all of nature is monopolar magnetic matter (know the magnetic toy "geomag"? behold, the matter is made that way, and accurately...
Edward Leedskalnin indicates an atom of matter as its model of PMH :

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Those free circulating north and south individual magnets are the building material for the magnet metal we find in the earth. This should show that the north and south pole individual magnets are the real atom builders, and not the protons and electrons.  I think the north and south pole individual magnets are running in an orbit around a common core in an atom the same way as they run in an orbit around a common core in the perpetual motion holder that I made. The only difference is that an atom has a small orbit, but the perpetual motion holder has a big orbit.

I have never seen an atom, but I think the atom drawings are wrong. They should be drawn to fit the earth on account of the fact that the atom is a part of the earth. The earth has two magnet poles. This means that each pole has an equal pull and push to hold the earth together, and so each atom should be built as it could have two poles. In that case both forces that make magnet poles should run around a common core (the core

could be a particle of sunlight)

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If we understand that masses the size of our planet actually have a distance associated with it and an additive potential as well. The surface of the planet would have a value associated with it and is concentrated inside of the planet into the core. Since there is heavy iron at the core this electric potential becomes active and changes a portion of the electrical potential of the whole of the planet into a magnetic, heat, and gravity components.

None of this would be possible without the electric field and the potential of the matter in that electric field. Each body in space is additive to the whole scale of the body in space. This is not limited to solid bodies, it also includes the solar system and galaxy as well. This is how gravity works plain and simple.

electricity is a magnetic current

#### gravityblock

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« Reply #33 on: May 02, 2013, 07:54:00 PM »

Thanks -- this vid is also interesting, an alka-seltzer tablet added to a water droplet in microgravity.  Note his comment about larger air bubbles forming at times in the droplet, sometimes at the poles, once evidently in the center.

I suppose that the earth itself was once molten, a large liquid "droplet" in space, in "microgravity" conditions.

(This does not PROVE anything regarding the earth, but shows what may be possible in such conditions.)

Yes, the earth itself was once molten, but what was it before it was a large liquid "droplet" in space?  It was a sun of course (glowing ball of magnetism with no crust).  In other words, the earth is a dying sun.  A sun, under the right conditions will start to form a crust. A sun, on becoming an earth, will form a point of inequality in space at a distance equal to the square of it's diameter.  At this point of inequality in space, a new sun of greater or lesser magnitude may be formed.  This would depend on the curvature form of the sun's field at the time it was forming a crust.  The particular form of magnetic concentration at the time when the sun is forming a crust may form a new sun or other variant forms as classified by astronomers.

Gravock

#### gravityblock

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« Reply #34 on: May 02, 2013, 07:58:57 PM »
"Helical Helix: Solar System a Dynamic Process", by Dr. Pallathadka Keshava Bhat, is a proposed model for the solar system with hard scientific evidence and data to support it.

Gravock

#### gravityblock

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« Reply #35 on: May 02, 2013, 08:22:29 PM »
Also, earth does have a hollow center, where there is a glowing ball of magnetism (remnants of it's former self of being a sun).  On the other-hand, the moon is mostly solid, with a very small hollow center of glowing magnetism.  The argument made by milehigh against a hollow earth isn't valid because a glowing ball of magnestim at the hollow center of the earth has been overlooked by him and by his teachers.

Gravock

#### jbignes5

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##### Re: The main question is: Why Gravity takes effect on Matter?
« Reply #36 on: May 02, 2013, 08:39:18 PM »

http://peswiki.com/images/c/ce/Ed_Leedskalnin-pushpull.gif

all of nature is monopolar magnetic matter (know the magnetic toy "geomag"? behold, the matter is made that way, and accurately...
Edward Leedskalnin indicates an atom of matter as its model of PMH :

electricity is a magnetic current

Electricity is not a magnetic current. You can not have a magnetic current without the electric field setup by the potential of the bodies in space. If there were a way to get magnetism without using the electric field we would have Overunity in leaps and bounds.

Each body in space weather it be a planet or much smaller scaled atom has a potential associated with it. This potential field sets up the electric field and a magnetic force is then able to span the electric field. Without the potential of individual atoms in space there is zero chance of the electric field forming in between those potential and zero chance that the magnetic field can form.

This is where the backwards thinking of our predecessors got us in trouble.

Case in point: When we try to create a magnetic field it is impossible to do this without either matter aligned by the electric field or more directly the electric field itself via potential differences in matter like a battery.

But we can create a difference in potential by using matter itself. The crystal battery is a very good example of this. There are plenty of examples of the crystal battery on this forum and through these experiments and examples we can generate light from the potential difference of two different materials with a crystalline barrier in between. This is due to the standing potential of each plate and connected via the crystalline material and a current flows between the two plates when a load is placed in between the two materials. This power will last forever as long as you do not deplete the standing potentials of the materials and this is evident by all of the examples of crystalline batteries on this and many other forums.

You are simply wrong in your assumption that the magnetic precedes the electric. This is our error in science and your beliefs. You have been misled by the academics because they will never admit they are wrong.

If you want to learn the truth then I would highly recommend "The Electric Universe" as a starting point. Gravity is merely a gentile flow of charges that are attracted to a central point of a body in space. The interactions that arise among the bodies of space and the subsequent magnetic flows are results of the potential differences of the individual bodies, weather they are planet sized or atom sized.

We must start understanding these processes and the first step in this is to observe the processes. This is what the electric universe project is doing and they are now in the position to rewrite our wrong theories and naive assessments of our past.

With only using the standing potential of 2 bodies separated by a one way material we have and will always be able to draw unlimited amounts of energy from the whole electric field of the immediate larger body in space. This has been proven through experimental observation. lasersaber has a crystal battery that has been running for over a year now powering both a motor and an led and viewable online via a webcam.  Many many others have had this experience, including me. It is irrefutable.

#### gravityblock

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« Reply #37 on: May 02, 2013, 08:51:33 PM »

Electricity is not a magnetic current. You can not have a magnetic current without the electric field setup by the potential of the bodies in space. If there were a way to get magnetism without using the electric field we would have Overunity in leaps and bounds.

Each body in space weather it be a planet or much smaller scaled atom has a potential associated with it. This potential field sets up the electric field and a magnetic force is then able to span the electric field. Without the potential of individual atoms in space there is zero chance of the electric field forming in between those potential and zero chance that the magnetic field can form.

This is where the backwards thinking of our predecessors got us in trouble.

Case in point: When we try to create a magnetic field it is impossible to do this without either matter aligned by the electric field or more directly the electric field itself via potential differences in matter like a battery.

But we can create a difference in potential by using matter itself. The crystal battery is a very good example of this. There are plenty of examples of the crystal battery on this forum and through these experiments and examples we can generate light from the potential difference of two different materials with a crystalline barrier in between. This is due to the standing potential of each plate and connected via the crystalline material and a current flows between the two plates when a load is placed in between the two materials. This power will last forever as long as you do not deplete the standing potentials of the materials and this is evident by all of the examples of crystalline batteries on this and many other forums.

You are simply wrong in your assumption that the magnetic precedes the electric. This is our error in science and your beliefs. You have been misled by the academics because they will never admit they are wrong.

If you want to learn the truth then I would highly recommend "The Electric Universe" as a starting point. Gravity is merely a gentile flow of charges that are attracted to a central point of a body in space. The interactions that arise among the bodies of space and the subsequent magnetic flows are results of the potential differences of the individual bodies, weather they are planet sized or atom sized.

We must start understanding these processes and the first step in this is to observe the processes. This is what the electric universe project is doing and they are now in the position to rewrite our wrong theories and naive assessments of our past.

With only using the standing potential of 2 bodies separated by a one way material we have and will always be able to draw unlimited amounts of energy from the whole electric field of the immediate larger body in space. This has been proven through experimental observation. lasersaber has a crystal battery that has been running for over a year now powering both a motor and an led and viewable online via a webcam.  Many many others have had this experience, including me. It is irrefutable.

Jbignes,

Magnetism is nothing more than a space devoid of all matter.  In the vacuum of space, a moving electric field isn't necessary in order to induce a magnetic field.

Gravock

#### jbignes5

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« Reply #38 on: May 02, 2013, 08:57:15 PM »
Also, earth does have a hollow center, where there is a glowing ball of magnetism (remnants of it's former self of being a sun).  On the other-hand, the moon is mostly solid, with a very small hollow center of glowing magnetism.

Gravock

Until you can show this premise then it will never float. The moon is very hollow and it has been proven by objects hitting the moon then the moon rings for hours afterwards. I will agree with that.

The earth is not hollow and neither is our sun. They are very  liquid in the center and in the very center have a crystal that are made because of the very high temperatures and extreme pressure. In both cases of our planet and sun these crystals are made out of iron. This does two things. 1 it is an interface of the potential and the real charges being sucked into our cores then 2 creates a magnetic field via the iron crystal in that core. Both the sun and earth have these features and is based wholly out of the total potential of our solar system. The sun is actually an anode of the galactic potential and this is what sets up the electric field of our solar system. The planets are actually sinks of the potential field and create heat and magnetism out of this potential field along with potential field of each body in that solar field. It is after all a fractal repeating from the universe all the way down to the individual atoms. Each part of the fractal will show the whole fractal no matter where you are in that fractal almost like in a hologram.

#### jbignes5

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##### Re: The main question is: Why Gravity takes effect on Matter?
« Reply #39 on: May 02, 2013, 09:02:15 PM »
Jbignes,

Magnetism is nothing more than space devoid of all matter.

Gravock

until you can provide proof of this statement it is only a theory.

The electric universe shows proof and until you negate that proof then the Axiom of theories can not disprove facts is where I'll stay.

#### gravityblock

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« Reply #40 on: May 02, 2013, 09:12:23 PM »
Jbignes,

It is what it is, so don't get your panties all in a knot, lol.  What your saying hasn't been proven anymore than what I'm saying.

Gravock

#### gravityblock

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« Reply #41 on: May 02, 2013, 09:31:00 PM »

Until you can show this premise then it will never float. The moon is very hollow and it has been proven by objects hitting the moon then the moon rings for hours afterwards. I will agree with that.

The singing sand dunes on earth also ring for hours on end, and they are not hollow.  You're argument that the moon is very hollow because it rings for hours when being hit by objects doesn't hold until all other possibilities have been ruled out.  According to your line of thinking, the singing sand dunes is proof for a hollow earth, which you don't accept

Gravock

#### jbignes5

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« Reply #42 on: May 02, 2013, 09:36:03 PM »
Jbignes,

It is what it is, so don't get your panties all in a knot, lol.  What your saying hasn't been proven anymore than what I'm saying.

Gravock

It is being reproduces every day through experiments and observations of our galaxy. This has been proven for a very long time by experimentation.mValid experimentation. Just look up the thunderbolts project.

#### jbignes5

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« Reply #43 on: May 02, 2013, 09:39:38 PM »
The singing sand dunes on earth also ring for hours on end, and they are not hollow.  You're argument that the moon is very hollow because it rings for hours when being hit by objects doesn't hold until all other possibilities have been ruled out.  According to your line of thinking, the singing sand dunes is proof for a hollow earth.

Gravock

As said before I back my examples up with actual evidence. NASA has reported the ringing incident many times by observation.

The singing sand dunes is because of our atmosphere and the composition of the sand in question, it has little to do with objects that hit the dune. Where is the proof you might offer about the singing sand dunes and the exact way that each the sand dune and moon act respectively?

Is this your example that you are referring to?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Singing_sand

lets do some reading and see that it does not last hours.

"Singing sand dunes, an example of the phenomenon of singing sand, produce a sound described as roaring, booming, squeaking, or the "Song of Dunes". This is a natural sound phenomenon of up to 105 decibels, lasting as long as several minutes, that occurs in about 35 desert locations around the world. The sound is similar to a loud, low-pitch, rumble, and it emanates from the crescent-shaped dunes, or barchans. The sound emission accompanies a slumping or avalanching movement of the sand, usually triggered by wind passing over the dune or by someone walking near the crest"

So lasting as long as several minutes to you means several hours?

There is a certain proceedure that needs to be done to get the results you are talking about. None of which meet the example of the whole moon ringing, not singing or barking.

Here is a report for you from NASA on the ringing and not singing...

http://www.omg-facts.com/Science/The-Apollo-12-Mission-Crashed-A-2-5-Ton/55549

And this report from the men who were there:

http://www.nasa.gov/exploration/home/15mar_moonquakes_prt.htm

#### gravityblock

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« Reply #44 on: May 02, 2013, 09:46:02 PM »

It is being reproduces every day through experiments and observations of our galaxy. This has been proven for a very long time by experimentation.mValid experimentation. Just look up the thunderbolts project.

Maybe you should look up Primer Fields and the Physics of the Primary State of Matter.  Also, why is there no measured electric field in a PM?  According to you, there can be no magnetic field without a moving electric field.  This isn't the case for a PM.

Gravock