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Author Topic: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)  (Read 17927 times)

Offline yellowsnow2

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The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« on: February 28, 2013, 11:17:34 AM »
  If you are here you most likely believe over unity is out there. But how many forms of over unity are their? Is it limited to only one medium or method? I don't believe so.
  During my obsessive research into science, history, and over unity I found that most of today's best innovations fundamentally mimic nature or were inspired by nature. I also found that some fundamental laws over lapped between different mediums and methods.We can all agree on that right?
 
 Some examples of innovations mimicking nature would be flying=birds, nuclear fusion=natural nuclear decay, electricity=comb through wool/hair, exc..
  An example of overlapping fundamental laws is electricity and fluid dynamics. I am convinced that ohm's law applies to the flow of most anything, following a similar set of fundamental laws. With different mediums having different pros and cons that are specific to each.

  So....................Please put a 1 in front of your short answers for one and 2 in front of two, then elaborate separately for ease of counting.

!... Are there any fundamental overlapping laws of over unity we can all agree on?

2...Do you all agree with the concept about mimicking nature?


  My example is
 
1..The sonic boom.. It seems to create excess energy. It's concept can be applied to sound, water cavitation and the water hammer effect, and maybe to the Townsend avalanche (used in Geiger tubes) by high energy collision of ion particles with atoms.

2..Mimicking nature.. Cavitation heating and the water hammer effect (both proven to exist) have have both been presented  in (less than proven) over unity devices. And my research into the Townsend Avalanche makes me believe this is similar to lightning discharges and nuclear chain reactions.

  I have spent countless hours to find out I was just on a wild goose chase. Especially with the weirdos out there now purposely trying to deceive people on this subject,
  So maybe we can come up with some fundamental laws to keep each other from wasting our time down a dead end path.

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Offline profitis

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2013, 05:43:42 PM »
only 2 fundamental laws here.1) the first law thermo and 2) the second law thermo.anyone trying to go round the 1st law is truly wasting time.the 2nd law,however,is open to debate.

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2013, 09:04:10 PM »
 for every action there is equal opposite reaction  ;)

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2013, 09:04:10 PM »
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Offline Tito L. Oracion

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2013, 06:11:11 AM »
Double action bullet is the fundamental law of Over unity.  ;D   ;)   8) 

Offline profitis

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2013, 12:27:28 PM »
@forest.. for evry action there is friction..gota get round that one.

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« Reply #4 on: May 26, 2013, 12:27:28 PM »
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Offline Doug1

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2013, 03:42:20 PM »
Define Overunity first in a complete ,exact deffinition.Leave nothing out ,give all the requirements needed to fullfill Overunity.  For the general population who wish to no longer pay tribute to the oil companies or ellectric companies the objective is the only goal. The pure'sts will argue endlessly against every attempt to claim Overunity. You cant have something just from nothing. If you sit a jelly bean on your desk expecting it to multiply spontanously with no interaction of any kind on any level you will waste your life waiting watching the jelly bean. Even if you found a clever way to reach the goal of being independent of the aformentioned industries.Someone will argue that all the previous generations which lead up to you consumed a certain amount of energy thereby requiring that total energy be measured against the output of you clever design. The name of this site spurrs debate, might as well called it eternity or God or eternal peace.com. You wont be getting any of those either,but the concept is interesting so here we are. Even if you could get off the corperate tit and share it with the world you wont be out of the woods.They will just tax you to death in another way. The real culprit is people who ellect the governments who regulate and control the pollicies driven by the corperations who contribute to compaigns which in turn exist to feed money in the form of taxes to the govenments who take your income money also to keep some form of society in play which was never intended to control this many people or maybe it wasnt very well thought out. If everyone is free then no one is, they will just find something ells to bitch about. Slavery for some was ended so that everyone could be enslaved equally. Freedom will come when your work is done and if your alive to read this you'll know your not done working. I have no idea what your working for so dont ask me. Im going fishing it's a nice day out.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2013, 08:02:16 PM »
TK's 3 Laws of OU:

1. All electrical OU devices must use at least one battery.

This has been shown empirically many times, and while it may not exactly be a fundamental "law" of OU, it has never been proven false, in thousands and thousands of experiments, just like the 2LoT.

2. The amount of OU that you get from an electrical OU device is directly related to the number of colored clipleads in the device, and inversely related to the cost of the test equipment used.

Again, this is an empirically-derived "law" so it might not be fundamental, but thousands of examples exist to support it.

3.  A Joule is a Watt, the terms are interchangeable, and "PER" never indicates a division operation.

This is also sometimes known as Ainslie's Law, and proper application of it is sure to produce OU in just about any electrical device you can imagine.


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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
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Offline profitis

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2013, 11:50:10 PM »
@tk wrong on number 1,karpen,s battery does not use a battery.

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2013, 01:05:45 AM »
@tk wrong on number 1,karpen,s battery does not use a battery.
Karpen's battery is a battery, isn't it? Take away the battery and what do you have left? Nothing. Certainly no "free energy" or overunity device.

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2013, 01:05:45 AM »
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Offline powercat

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2013, 01:26:13 AM »
No self-runner = No Overunity

Offline markdansie

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2013, 01:59:03 AM »
TK
as usual you covered the science very well with your laws
There are other  faces to claimed over unity that may not fall into laws:


1. Mythology........this relates to the distortion of true historical facts about past peoples achievements and claims. We have two categories.
a. Those who made claims in the past but no one since has been able to reproduce it (aided by rumors of the nature of their demise)
b. People who did not make claims but people today take selective quotes or information and build a new story.


2. Charisma
Charismatic Characters who are able to convince people of their claims, or others to part with their money often mixing up politics, religion. They normally have some junk science or have in the past able to demonstrate something that has even themselves fooled. Often these end badly as they have no exit once they have cornered themselves and revert to shifting the goal posts.


3. Snake Oil for all
The straight out scam. No room for real science here.


4. Amnesia
The fan club keep forgetting or forgiving all the failed claims, lies and misrepresentations the person has made in the past or continues to make. No need to name names here lol.


5. The Cult
Believe or be banished.


To me, I have only two requests, not laws but rules
a. Show me the data
b. Show me the method you got the data (and instruments used)




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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2013, 01:59:03 AM »
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Offline markdansie

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2013, 02:03:28 AM »
@tk wrong on number 1,karpen,s battery does not use a battery.
If there is a chance it is not a battery (galvanic reaction) then the other most debated possibility it is drawing thermal energy form the environment. I have seen in private lab results the latter possibility using similar materials. The reason it is not pursued is the huge cost of materials to power out. PS you can buy solar at 60c a watt now vs possibly hundreds of dollars per watt for a matured development of this technology. It is not only rules of science that dominate....economics is a key factor.
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Offline profitis

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2013, 02:55:35 AM »
@tk lol

Offline profitis

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2013, 03:04:07 AM »
@markdansie..it is ambient heat yes,pumped up a gradient at no expense,forever.the romanian military(and other militaries?) apparently found a use for it despite its expensive makeup.sometimes reliability is more valuable than cost.

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Re: The Fundemental Laws Of Over Unity (group effort)
« Reply #14 on: June 16, 2013, 02:19:48 AM »
I think cavitation may be overunity but would be difficult to prove or use because it is centered around heat. It would be interesting to see a patent/invention that used cavitation as a motor force.  Perhaps the Clem engine did this or Schauberger or the original Keely Motor.
I tried to see the original Keely Motor at the Franklin Institute last year but was informed it was taken off public display.
There was a cavitation device that made instant steam by an old German inventor (Schaefer?) but it was not a motor.

 

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