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Author Topic: Strange delayed sonic booms from Russian Meteor and claim that UFO smashed it  (Read 45271 times)

NickZ

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   Stefan and All:
   Here in the video below (second video below), are some comments from a Russian cosmonaut that knows and has seen more than us.
  There are many objects flying all around our near space field. This guy is saying that some of these are inteligent, and were following him. Check his video out.

  Whether it was a UFO that blew the meteor apart, or not, we may not ever know for sure, but here is another video to further prove this was not done by the Russians.
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZzG881Vii8

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=WASnC_-vsQs


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Absolute rubbish. This wake is significantly higher than that, but from the photos you choose it is hard to say exactly how high as there is nothing in the pictures to provide a scale, other than the expected size of the wake, and you are grossly underestimating that size.

Absolute rubbish:
You seem to have never seen chemtrails or vapour trails from planes that fly at 10 Km !

These are much smaller than these cloud trails from the Russian meteorite.
At 28 Km would be even 3 times as high !

Give me a break, if you claim these clouds are really almost 30 Km high you are nuts !

You can see the scale from the houses and the trees.
These are maximum 1 Km high probably much less...


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Remember that this exploded with an energy  equal to a half a megaton nuclear bomb. If the wake was only 500 to 1000 metres away the cameraman would most likely have been vaporised by the event. 

Yes, that is also what I don´t believe  !

These were just a few big sonic booms, but no half a megaton nuclear bomb !

If this thing would really have exploded, it would have looked totally different and we
saw the whole vapourizing !

This thing did just glow up , but did not explode !



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The size of wake of an object is proportional to its kinetic energy not just its size.


Rubbish !

How should a 15 Meter Meteorite have a 2000 Meters wide vapour trails just a few seconds after it flew by ??
Totally unlogic and does not work physically !

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Have look at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impact_event where it gives the relationship between meteor size and airburst altitude. To have exploded at 500- 1000 metres would require an object 85 metres in size and would release 28 megatons of energy. That would definitely giving rise to devastation on the ground on a large scale.  By comparison a 20 meter object such as this gives an airburst altitude of 22 km and around 380 kiloton blast

You are demonstrating the classic mistake of allowing your point of view to cloud your judgement of the evidence.

It did not explode ! It just only burned up ! Just look at all of the video for the evidence !

The sonic booms must have come from 30 Km away, where it entered the lower atmosphere !

In the late 60s and 70s we had often some Russian Jets flying over West-Berlin where I live in the cold war time
making sonic booms to scare us.
Almost every time I ran outdoors when this happened and wanted to see the planes, but you could
never see them. They were probably really high and you could also only hear the sonic boom and they had already
been flying by and could not be seen.

Sometimes I also was already outdoors, but just milliseconds after the boom
looking up you also could not see anything... So I guess they have been flying way too high to be seen by the naked eye...
or they had already passed by and the sonic boom was traveling way behind them....
Probably the same happened here in Russia, that the sonic boom was really coming from 30 Km away and traveling way behind the
meteorite...
but the pictures I posted it was already very low above the houses as you can clearly see from the pictures...

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Careful there, NickZ.....we wouldn't want to offend someone's delicate sensibilities by prying too hard with that eyelid crowbar.


One man's mountain of evidence, is another's fearful abyss.




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No, I've certainly never seen a chemtrail, because they don't exist.  As I've said before, no need to start spraying people when the average intelligence is so low already.

LOL!  Well then, it's official.  'gianna' has never been outside with his/her eyes open.  (big surprise)  Come to think of it, apparently hasn't been on the internet with his/her eyes open as well!

The only alternative is the the paid/unpaid schill scenario.....

You know, like hitler, for the greater good and all.


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P.S.  Stefan, surely you see the futility of furthering dialogue at this point.  For if one is in such a dense 'fog' already, of course they cannot distinguish chemtrails.  Only on the internet are those whose lifestyle choice is to 'cuss the impossibilities', all too often allowed to be the bane of those who gather to 'discuss the Possibilities'.  If yours was a public forum in real life, the 'giannas' wouldn't bother showing up, and for very good reasons.

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  @ Gianna:
  Sorry our combined knowledge and opinions here don't meet with your approval.
  But, I don't think the crowbar would help. Maybe a jackhammer would do the trick.

  I guess then that the cosmonauts report is just rubbish, also, as well as the video of the object that blew up the meteor.   Thank God!



NickZ

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   Well, I see.
   Then its all just space junk. Thank God,  again...
   There are no other objects in space, just "rubbish". There are no videos of space that are showing  anything other than that.  Sorry my mistake. 
But,... do you believe your eyes? Then do some real looking into it. Or better yet, never mind.
  Time will tell, and I'll remind you then. 
  Have you heard about something called a superiority complex.  NO?

« Last Edit: February 25, 2013, 06:29:09 AM by NickZ »

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The more attention you give to sophomoric adolescents, the more they will whine.


As I stated early on...no amount of visual evidence is enough to pry open the stubborn eyes of the willfully sight impaired.




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Told ya guys.....

It acts like some kid, I'm guessing a high school/college dropout, who stayed just long enough to become indoctrinated but lacking the motivation to finish.

Which explains the demands for a free education here on the forum.

Ignore him/her and that one will vanish in a puff of....puffery.


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NickZ

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    Gianna:
    You're still reading this thread? There is no proof, nothing but Bs, dumb dots flying through space, etz...   
  I get it...
   


NickZ

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  If you feel that way, then why are you here. Your insults, and only negative comments are only serving your overinflated ego. What is your problem.   Take it elsewhere.

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No, I've certainly never seen a chemtrail, because they don't exist. 

As I've said before, no need to start spraying people when the average intelligence is so low already.


You seem to be a paid disinformation agent or you just don´t understand or are too dumb to understand !


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Ok then, provide just one conclusive piece of evidence for chemtrails. There are absolutely none.



Again wrong:

http://www.sauberer-himmel.de/untersuchungen/

And with english translation:

http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.sauberer-himmel.de%2Funtersuchungen%2F&act=url

These are the measurements of the stuff  from Chemtrail !


Also for more on Chemtrails have a look at this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qnaejfOztuQ

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Here you can see a plane like an Airbus or Boing flying at 10 Km height with the same or bigger
width of the trails like the meteorite.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJr5bPwnOrk

Now this is only 10 Km height, now imagine 28 Km height !

You almost would not see the about 30 to 50 Meters wide trail in 28 Km height
or only as a very faint white line !

So if you compare it to the Russian meteorite trail you will see, that its trail
was much bigger and thus it was much lower in height, when it passed over the town where the videos were recorded.

So the question still is,
1. where did these sonic booms really came from and
2. at what heights were they produced and
3. how should there have been a half megaton  explosion when the only thing that was shown
on the videos was a burning up meteorite  and during this burning up there was no explosion sound to hear ?

Regards, Stefan.



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 Stefan:
  Thank you for your efforts on this.  I do think that it is futile at this point, to try to reason with a closed mind, such as with the case of this person.  But, the rest of us may  understand, that there was an action taken by an unknown flying object that caused the effect observed in the video.
 
  The video I uploaded shows a UFO of some type, at the moment of explosion.
 I don't see any coinsedense of the meteor blowing into pieces at exactly the same time.


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Also, some of the vids I've seen which show projectiles moving toward various moving objects....most times the origin of the projectiles seems to be 'cloaked' or out of frame.  Of course, my own experiences prove to my satisfaction that many of these 'craft' seem to move in time as well as space.

God's Word references the 'beast' in our day as a military/government conglomerate that can call down 'fire' from heaven, taking dominion of the air, even going into space, controlling the weather to an extent.  Even seeking to change 'times' and 'seasons'.  Going so far as to require it's subjects to receive it's 'mark' in order to participate in the economy.

'And the nations will wonder after the beast, saying, "Who can Wage War with it?"



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