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Author Topic: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013  (Read 233274 times)

Offline TheCell

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #135 on: April 07, 2013, 11:23:35 AM »
There are at least 2 different schemes of kapanadze circuits .
The one that uses ferrites , and another one that has a aluminum pipe in it that works as a capacitor.
As Tiger repeatedly states that his ferrite scheme works, someone should not question that unless he has experimental proof. An educated guess is in fact worth nothing, because only experience counts.
Sr193 was a similar setup.
What we already know is:
The 50/60 Hz primary frequency acts as an carrier and by pulsing the inner copper rod / and HV winding a process starts which releases additional energy. One should visit realstrannik_>
Replication Red (who pulses ringmagnets and collects the flyback)
Or the thread: Guest installation (aluminum rod)
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=de&sl=auto&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.realstrannik.ru%2Fforum%2F48-temy-freeenergylt-antanasa%2F120526-gost-ustanovka.html%23120526
But for the scheme sr193 / Tiger / Fabrice Andre the attached ones are guiding examples


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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #136 on: April 08, 2013, 07:32:39 AM »
Hi,




Thanks for the link.


I dont like ferrite core for that coil actually. It will saturate easily (when power up to its limit. ) When we are talking about OU , that limitation seems a no no for me. Not to say that it can't be done, just that we need much more extra time for tuning and make it work.


Back in 20 years ago, one of my friend built a tesla coil with ferrite core in it, after years of experiment, he gave up and back to air core coil and its really hard to make it work in tesla coil.


 Anyway , keen to see some positive results from replicators who use ferrite core .






Regards,
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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #137 on: April 08, 2013, 01:18:01 PM »
Hi,
[size=78%]Thanks for the link. [/size]
I dont like ferrite core for that coil actually. It will saturate easily (when power up to its limit. ) When we are talking about OU , that limitation seems a no no for me. Not to say that it can't be done, just that we need much more extra time for tuning and make it work.
Back in 20 years ago, one of my friend built a tesla coil with ferrite core in it, after years of experiment, he gave up and back to air core coil and its really hard to make it work in tesla coil.
[size=78%]Anyway , keen to see some positive results from replicators who use ferrite core . [/size]

[size=78%]Regards, [/size]
tru168


Hi Tru168 thanks for your guidance.
So what would you suggest in Kapandze core just copper rod? Some guys suggested a grooved one does this make any difference?
Thanks

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #137 on: April 08, 2013, 01:18:01 PM »
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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #138 on: April 08, 2013, 02:05:11 PM »
Hi,


  Grooved copper seems good, Kapanadze design used copper in the coil act as part of capacitor I believe, and its actually not very thick.   I tested air core without anything in it that give me the highest efficiency but it is in normal tesla coil design, if you use copper pipe without groove, the pipe act as a huge single turn secondary that short circuit by it self.  no good. you can try to  use slightly thinner solid copper, or the grooved copper pipe will be ok.




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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #139 on: April 08, 2013, 09:03:33 PM »
Hi,
Grooved copper seems good, Kapanadze design used copper in the coil act as part of capacitor I believe, and its actually not very thick.   I tested air core without anything in it that give me the highest efficiency but it is in normal tesla coil design, if you use copper pipe without groove, the pipe act as a huge single turn secondary that short circuit by it self.  no good. you can try to  use slightly thinner solid copper, or the grooved copper pipe will be ok.
tru168
Hi thanks for response. I meant a slot in the copper pipe when I said groove.Where do you connect the earth if one uses air core?
Thanks
 

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
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Offline Grumage

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #140 on: April 08, 2013, 09:51:25 PM »
Hi,


  Grooved copper seems good, Kapanadze design used copper in the coil act as part of capacitor I believe, and its actually not very thick.   I tested air core without anything in it that give me the highest efficiency but it is in normal tesla coil design, if you use copper pipe without groove, the pipe act as a huge single turn secondary that short circuit by it self.  no good. you can try to  use slightly thinner solid copper, or the grooved copper pipe will be ok.




tru168

Hello all.

I wonder if a solid Copper design is an advantage? As you suggest it would act as a heavy short circuit. But what is available from that? A heavy magnetization field!! I feel sure that these devices work asymmetrically so that the input source is not affected by the output load, but the problem is how to solve the question??

Take a look at The Old Scientist's web site, he has a vid regarding a TK coil. He is using a solid Copper rod.

Now here's a thought, Would we see Asymmetry if the Copper rod ran through some Ferrite cores with a coil sleeved over the top?

Will have to try :)

Cheers Grum.

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #141 on: April 09, 2013, 01:17:24 PM »
Hi thanks for response. I meant a slot in the copper pipe when I said groove.Where do you connect the earth if one uses air core?
Thanks


Hi,


 What I mean is, not air core, just thick wire in it , just like original Kapanadze do. I did insert solid copper into tesla coil, it works but not thick one, thicker solid copper will drop my tesla coil efficiency. 
I'm just a Tesla coil experimenter for the past 20 years, and apply the principle into this. just my 2 cents worth on opinion.


Thanks


Tru168


 

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #142 on: April 10, 2013, 11:42:43 AM »
I don't like ferrite core for that coil actually. It will saturate easily (when power up to its limit. )
Saturation of the ferrite core is deliberate and essential to the operation of the device, because it decreases the permeability to 1 and minimizes the skin-effect that is responsible for decreased RF penetration into the core.  Without it the neutrons in the core will not be stimulated into decay and the energetic fast electrons (or positrons) will not be produced.

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #143 on: April 10, 2013, 11:54:55 AM »
if you use copper pipe without groove, the pipe act as a huge single turn secondary that short circuit by it self.  no good.
For an ordinary transformer that would be true, however in the SR device the brass or copper rod (pipe, or better yet, a disk) constitutes a one-turn primary winding (not a secondary).  The circular beta current induced in this rod is confined and directionalized by the magnetic field permeating the rod.  This pulse of beta current creates a strong pulse of magnetic field, which can then be coupled inductively by an ordinary secondary winding in the vicinity of the core.

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #144 on: April 10, 2013, 12:05:11 PM »
I wonder if a solid Copper design is an advantage? As you suggest it would act as a heavy short circuit.
The mass of copper (or brass) does not act as a short circuit because that mass constitutes the primary winding which is the source of  the energy in that system.  If the copper (or brass) acted as a secondary winding then indeed it would represent a "dead short circuit".

But what is available from that? A heavy magnetization field!!
More like a strong magnetic pulse.  This magnetic pulse can induce huge PDC in an ordinary secondary coil.
However in order for this to happen, first the beta current must be stimulated to circulate in the copper (or brass) and that current must be confined magnetically inside the copper, by Lorentz forces.

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #145 on: April 10, 2013, 11:17:13 PM »
To Tika,

I have chased this Rabbit Hole for a while. The HV supply is always a problem. I ran across something 4 years ago which was great.

I can use a flyback and generate 25K volts with a DC input of 11V and 500ma.

I experimented with the magnetic fields to get the spark adjusted in frequency.

If you are interested let me know.

I have experimented with this stuff for years.

Part of me says it is possible and part says it is total BS.

But Tesla says it is possible.

Brings me to string theory. Moray found it. He had 29 detectors in parallel.

A string is 10 to the minus 24 (I know I have these figures wrong, but bare with me).

And they vibrite at 10 to the + 32.

That is zero point energy.

So, what exactly do they vibrate at?

We need to half that down into something we can relate to.

(And I mean half and half and half, etc)

Or something we can detect.

I would bet that what we are looking for is the schumann frequency.

What is it? 11 hz or so.

At this  FZ the energy is zero point at a very low frequency.

Take it up to (My god 10 to the 32 or so ) I cannot imagine what the power would be.

We need to capture it at a frequency that we can use.

Well to me what would be 120V at 60HZ - what our friend Tesla did

A very great part of me says God will not give us that info, due to end times events.






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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #146 on: September 11, 2013, 09:16:14 AM »
Hi,

I am now starting a machine based on the Kapanadze devices.



m:o)

And what type of Kapanadze you start to build ?
I tray to build this days but not sure for best schematic?
Does anybody have scheme for Dailly kap ?

regards

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #147 on: November 30, 2013, 11:55:46 AM »
Very comprenhensive topic, read all ten pages, but i'm a bit dispaointed to see that it ended suddenly..., i was wondering how the experiment went Tika, you realised what you proposed to do? Thank you and all the best!

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
« Reply #148 on: December 06, 2013, 06:27:58 AM »
LOL. We know how to do it . And you don't )

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Re: A Kapanadze generator replication - Febuary 2013
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