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wizkycho

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Re: Free Solid State/mechanical energy
« Reply #15 on: September 21, 2006, 02:33:18 PM »
Hi !

 Here is the shematic of what I'm building right now.
at start I'll use 4 pole relay (hope that contacts will all make contact in a same time)
expecting COP 1.4 at first. it doesn't seem much at first but every wat counts.

sorry for the big picture, but if made smaller one can't see numbers.

SV1 i SV7 are contacts for secondary's of mains(220V~) toroid trafo (2*24V~).
(will try in bucking and serial connection). Mains primary is output connected to SV2

This setup allso use discharge from positive and negative plates of capacitors bank or standard operation
(J1 and J2 jumpers will connect to ground , (no coil on SV7))

power input will be adjusted for smallest input (meassured at R3  and R4)
there is no relay contact. I will see if it necessery later.

wiz

wizkycho

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Re: Free Solid State/mechanical energy
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2006, 12:41:04 PM »
Hi all !

this will be test one !
it is a lot simplified schematic than EMF recycler itself, but reasambles key points of design.

pic 1
through S2 TWO currents flow from input source (24V) and stored current from serial connected caps.
Isn't this alone shows that output should be over 100% ? Am I missing some equation here ?
current through S1 is allso added to energy output (at primary).

pic2
through S1 TWO currents flow from input source (24V) and stored current from serial connected caps.
current through S1 is allso added to energy output.
current through S2 is allso added to energy output.

what do you think ?
can someone contact DrSpark to join us on this ?

btw. at the primary I will connect another trafo to step down voltage. I'll try it with relays, should work, but

can someone find appropriate solid state relays opto driven with FETs(low resistance) at the output ?

wizkycho
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wizkycho

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Re: Free Solid State/mechanical energy
« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2006, 09:01:55 AM »
The relay coil will blow up the junction in the transistor without a diode across the coil.  Also, is power negative?  If not it will not go thru the diodes, and if the jumpers are on, the power will go right to ground?  Is this the whole schematic?  What are you attempting?

24V+ is input power (current goes in, arrow is wrong oriented)
pic1 and pic 2 are steps (reconnection achieved with relay(schematic before))
output at the "primary" output coil of trafo is alternating, scince the currents in "secondary" (input is alternating)

key is to recycle allready used energy, this is a shure thing working. cop 2 min not much but if cascaded...
got all parts and it is 80% assembled.
only need to connect some square gen. for relay output and input power. stay tuned.
let's see what this baby can do.

it will drive a 10Wmin. bulb and with no input at all whatsoever.

wizkycho

wizkycho

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Re: Free Solid State/mechanical energy
« Reply #18 on: October 13, 2006, 09:39:17 AM »
Hi all !

this will be test one !
it is a lot simplified schematic than EMF recycler itself, but reasambles key points of design.

pic 1
through S2 TWO currents flow from input source (24V) and stored current from serial connected caps.
Isn't this alone shows that output should be over 100% ? Am I missing some equation here ?
current through S1 is allso added to energy output (at primary).

pic2
through S1 TWO currents flow from input source (24V) and stored current from serial connected caps.
current through S1 is allso added to energy output.
current through S2 is allso added to energy output.

what do you think ?
can someone contact DrSpark to join us on this ?

btw. at the primary I will connect another trafo to step down voltage. I'll try it with relays, should work, but

can someone find appropriate solid state relays opto driven with FETs(low resistance) at the output ?

wizkycho
Perihelion Labs

Hi all !

What do You all think will this work (pic)?
output is at PRI.
24V+ is input.

observe that current that has allready done work (now stored in capacitors) flows again with "fresh" current
through input coil (SEC on pic).
This alone should guarantee FE ?

if you missed the principle of work
http://drspark.com/idea003.php

please respond

wizkycho

wizkycho

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Re: Free Solid State/mechanical energy
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2006, 09:08:14 AM »
Hi all !
frequency very low (3 - 4Hz)
used 10000uF
input voltage (instead of +24) is 7.5V
oscilgrames are as expected
dirver is four pole relay switch (that is why I wanted to keep low frequency)

osc1(1.gif) between M1 and M2
osc2(2.gif) between M1 and M3 (between M2 and M3 looks the same)
in the next post osc of output.

I will not try to go measure I/O energy ratio cause freq is too low and is hard to flaten input and output measurements
so there would be no mistake with RMS calcs. I want it to be pure and flat DC first.

next tests will use opto transistor switches, higher freqs, and lower capacitance (which is cheaper and easier to get higher voltage rated)

wizkycho

wizkycho

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Re: Free Solid State/mechanical energy
« Reply #20 on: October 23, 2006, 02:29:06 PM »
Hi all !
I have no much time now but I feel obligated to inform ya
that I have obtained Free Energy results with EMF recycler

for now 3.3W input 9.6W output. Folks, It is allmost 3 times !!!!

input is DC filtered with 4700uF
output is DC filtered with 1000uF
48Hz
there is no much place for false measurements.

please ask questions and will push this thing further.
I'll post more when I find some time.

Igor Knitel




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Re: Free Solid State/mechanical energy
« Reply #21 on: October 23, 2006, 05:22:53 PM »
Hi Igor,

Congratulations,  and have a rest, think it over, but nevertheless, please draw the circuit diagram you have achieved overunity with. I know you already included several circuits but now would you do it again by drawing or connecting up everything you have changed, tested, modified to reach your present circuit of OU!

I think you wish to make a self-runner from it but it takes usually a DC/DC converter with a stabilised output to avoid the runaway situation.  Because there is plenty of excess output, maybe a simple linear regulator would also do.

Thanks

Gyula

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Re: Free Solid State/mechanical energy
« Reply #22 on: October 23, 2006, 07:46:46 PM »
Congradulations on your hard work, i hope to hear from you soon! Evan

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Re: Free Solid State/mechanical energy
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2006, 12:06:58 AM »
please draw the circuit diagram you have achieved overunity with

I agree, please post your circuit diagram/parts list, and photos. This way other people can try to replicate your results.

wizkycho

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Re: Free Solid State/mechanical energy
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2006, 10:54:43 AM »
Hi !

complete shematic
(last measurement)
If there are some mosfets instead of relay it would be motionless.
Capacitors can be smaller (yes they will discharge faster (loose voltage) but on the other hand other two will gain voltage faster).

High inductivity of trafo coil prevents start strong currents that capacitors are capable of giving.
should lower inductance...
Higher input voltages would give much more power out, and greater COP.

WARNING capacitors if overvoltaged can blow.

Igor Knitel

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Re: Free Solid State/mechanical energy
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2006, 12:33:44 PM »
Hi Igor,

Thanks for the complete schematics!

My questions:

1) Have you tried to change the Duty Cycle of the input square wave?  I guess it would open up further optimization in the input/output power ratio.  At present you have a 50% duty cycle?

2) Did you include the relay power need in the COP calculations?  Of course I understand if you did not, because later in case of using MOSFET switches this power need gets much less reduced.  By the way kind of relay do you use, 12V DC or 24V, coil resistance?

3) Could you use an oscilloscope to show some voltage forms on C1 and C4 with respect to the ground?  I guess you will see saw tooth wave shapes that get transformed to the primary side of the toroid trafo.  Maybe some tuning/smoothing nonpolarized capacitor in parallel with the primary coil?   The scope shoots would be helpful in designing the MOSFET switches too.

Great job, congratulations again.

Regards
Gyula

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Re: Free Solid State/mechanical energy
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2006, 12:57:49 PM »
Hi again Igor,

Please would you do me a measurement ?

Would you connect a normal DC ampermeter (can be a digital or analog multimeter) in series with the output lamps and check the DC current feeding the lamps?

Because you measure the current INSIDE the circuit loop of C5 and B1 bridge and it may make fun with you.  The best is to measure the current in series with the load where it directly connects to the C5 capacitor.

Regards
Gyula

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Re: Free Solid State/mechanical energy
« Reply #27 on: October 24, 2006, 06:06:15 PM »
Hi Igor,
Congratulations !!!!!
First, for your effort and your commendable work
and, if your measurements are ok, for your success.
I?ll try to understand the device. Probably I?ll need your help.
All people who believe and try to find Free Energy for a better world need people like you.
Regards.

wizkycho

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Re: Free Solid State/mechanical energy
« Reply #28 on: October 27, 2006, 11:12:32 AM »
Hi !

After many tests I can report that measurement artefacts are possible but seems at least very efficent.
Instead of using osciloscope tried with digital multimeter and got simmilar results.
Scince there are many voltage and current high spikes messurements could allso be false.

When Secondary was conected differently (see pic and put in schematic before)
relay lit up from the sparks due to severeal times 
higher voltages and/or currents than the input (back currents and voltages induced).
Relay is rated 5A/220V~ at the contacts. Output was complete zero which confirmes that all relay contacts where all the time actaully - shorted (with sparks)!!!

with this different connection bucking or biffilar mechanisam is trigered.

additional test should be conducted in that way. creating more back spikes mabe even recharging conds directly ...

wiz

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Re: Free Solid State/mechanical energy
« Reply #29 on: October 27, 2006, 11:39:53 AM »
Hi Igor,
you now have the Newman effect !

Try to put several Relay contacts in series, so you will
have a faster cutoff of the current and also longer
gaps, so the sparks will not jump across all openings so
fast and do a shortout !

If you really got overunity results, you probably only have it because
of the spark gaps at the contacts !

A pure transistor switching would probably not get you any overunity
results...

You can also try to design an commutator wheel with graphite and
copper contacts and put a few wheels in series and thus have a very fast
cutoff of the current, as all contacts switch off together.

If you power it from a 12 Volts battery you can this way also recharge your
battery via the sparks jumping also back to your battery connection.

Please put the shunt at your output behind the capacitor, so you
measure pure DC current there and also please take scope shots and
post them.

Many thanks for your great work !

Best regards, Stefan.