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Author Topic: I will be testing high voltage capacitor self charge, T.H.Moray style  (Read 9072 times)

Offline yellowsnow2

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I have vast knowledge in all kinds of weird subjects. Including researching ALL the free energy devices of the past, with a focus on Thomas Moray. My knowledge of electronics is very basic, so I will be starting with a clean slate with no preconceived limits.

A very good book "The Energy Machine of T.H. Moray" states "the zero point energy is surprisingly simple. Create a plasma corona and pulse it"

So my coming tests will include from scratch testing of the self charge phenomenon of capacitors. And according to wikipedia under "dielectric absorption" the self charge is a percentage of the voltage and has nothing to do with current. So my test will be in high voltage.

Thomas Moray used vacuum capacitors from my understanding. And it is my belief that he cascaded a bank of vacuum capacitors to collect the self charge. But their is NO information on the self charge of vacuum capacitors.

My testing equipment=
Old school 6000volt 30ma neon transformer
10,000volt 12.5pf vacuum capacitor
6000volt diodes for rectifier
several 450volt electrolytic capacitors
disposable camera to charge the smaller capacitors

I am still waiting on the diodes to come in the mail so I can start. May take another 2 weeks coming from the Ukraine to US. So my testing will start with the 450volt capacitors here in a day or 2 , and the big vacuum capacitor will be a little while.

My hopes from this is to lay down information about vacuum capacitors concerning self charge (which I can find none). And to experiment with a capacitor charge-discharge-collect self charge, cascade effect.

I have many ideas and perceptions of how this all works, but I will wait until they are proven or dis proven by experimentation.   

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Re: I will be testing high voltage capacitor self charge, T.H.Moray style
« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2013, 05:41:15 AM »
Sorry about the delay. The camera circuit I am going to use for charging the 450v capacitors should show up in the mail hopefully tomorrow. I will also be making and testing the properties of a Geiger tube (more waiting on mail). I have the perfect medical vial to make the tube out of. I will be testing the output of the tube with a neutron radiation source and an "antenna to ground" cosmic ray antenna. I explain my Geiger tube theory in the "Theory of overunity and free energy" section.

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Re: I will be testing high voltage capacitor self charge, T.H.Moray style
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2013, 02:50:13 PM »
Conditioned electret (with usually Bee wax) are very good at self charging.

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Re: I will be testing high voltage capacitor self charge, T.H.Moray style
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2013, 02:50:13 PM »
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Re: I will be testing high voltage capacitor self charge, T.H.Moray style
« Reply #3 on: February 04, 2013, 12:40:15 AM »
I did some testing with the 450v caps. I seem to be getting somewhere around 100v self charge, but my multimeter sucks it away in a couple seconds. I wanted to test the amperage of the cap charged to 100v compared to the amperage of the 100v self charge, but blew a fuse in my meter. For some reason my digital meter will not measure the voltage of the cap. So i had to use my analog. Kinda getting frustrated because of the lack of proper test equipment. 

But my research is coming along good on the Geiger tube theory. The Townsend discharge/avalanche acts as a current amplifier. A single ionizing event can produce multiple avalanches results in an increased multiplication factor which can produce 1000000000 to 10000000000 ion pairs. An ion pair being a positive ion and a negative ion (electron). Which are separated and sucked to the cathode and anode.



So i'm more focused on making a Geiger tube and testing the current amplification from several ionizing radiation sources. Cosmic rays, x-rays, and an alpha emitter.

An alpha emitter emits positive ions. These cause less avalanche events than an electron, but because they are sucked to the negative electrode with force, they knock loose electrons from the metal atoms upon impact which in turn are shot to the positive electrode  creating the avalanches. And i can put a piece of alpha emitter in the tube, which would emit positive ions for around 100 years or so.  Just wish their was an easy to come by beta (electron) emitter to compliment it, but in theory a cathode ray tube should work for that. Or x-rays hitting the electrode knocking electrons from the metal atoms.


Conclusion...

The Townsend avalanche seems to be the same thing as the nuclear chain reaction that powers nuclear power plants..... Except on a smaller scale  (in the ion scale instead of protons and neutrons)....without radiation emissions (that aren't used)......And in a safe way because of the process's self limiting effect "Raether limit" where the gas in the tube becomes so ionized that it becomes conductive and self discharges .. in contrast to the run away nuclear chain reaction that ends up as a bomb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Townsend_discharge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geiger%E2%80%93M%C3%BCller_tube

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Re: I will be testing high voltage capacitor self charge, T.H.Moray style
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2013, 10:09:02 PM »
I have vast knowledge in all kinds of weird subjects. Including researching ALL the free energy devices of the past, with a focus on Thomas Moray. My knowledge of electronics is very basic, so I will be starting with a clean slate with no preconceived limits.

A very good book "The Energy Machine of T.H. Moray" states "the zero point energy is surprisingly simple. Create a plasma corona and pulse it"

So my coming tests will include from scratch testing of the self charge phenomenon of capacitors. And according to wikipedia under "dielectric absorption" the self charge is a percentage of the voltage and has nothing to do with current. So my test will be in high voltage.

Thomas Moray used vacuum capacitors from my understanding. And it is my belief that he cascaded a bank of vacuum capacitors to collect the self charge. But their is NO information on the self charge of vacuum capacitors.

My testing equipment=
Old school 6000volt 30ma neon transformer
10,000volt 12.5pf vacuum capacitor
6000volt diodes for rectifier
several 450volt electrolytic capacitors
disposable camera to charge the smaller capacitors

I am still waiting on the diodes to come in the mail so I can start. May take another 2 weeks coming from the Ukraine to US. So my testing will start with the 450volt capacitors here in a day or 2 , and the big vacuum capacitor will be a little while.

My hopes from this is to lay down information about vacuum capacitors concerning self charge (which I can find none). And to experiment with a capacitor charge-discharge-collect self charge, cascade effect.

I have many ideas and perceptions of how this all works, but I will wait until they are proven or dis proven by experimentation.
I readed that book, aswell tapping the zero-point energy field and the quest for zero point energy.

To create a Plasma Corona you need uber massive voltage pulsing, so that a virtually plasma occurs or what ?
Because thats no where stated what a "plasma" exactly looks like.

Also reading the books, and now reading you're idea, 6000 volt isn't enough (I THINK).
The 6000 volt transformer, you bought or found it ?

I subscribe to this topic, and I really wonder if you can get Plasma Corona.

Also a interesting read, about pulsed 'free energy' systems (they also claim to run/use pulsed DC high voltages).
Especially the subject 'Tesla Experiments'.
http://www.free-energy-info.tuks.nl/Chapter5.pdf

I did some testing with the 450v caps. I seem to be getting somewhere around 100v self charge, but my multimeter sucks it away in a couple seconds. I wanted to test the amperage of the cap charged to 100v compared to the amperage of the 100v self charge, but blew a fuse in my meter. For some reason my digital meter will not measure the voltage of the cap. So i had to use my analog. Kinda getting frustrated because of the lack of proper test equipment. 

But my research is coming along good on the Geiger tube theory. The Townsend discharge/avalanche acts as a current amplifier. A single ionizing event can produce multiple avalanches results in an increased multiplication factor which can produce 1000000000 to 10000000000 ion pairs. An ion pair being a positive ion and a negative ion (electron). Which are separated and sucked to the cathode and anode.



So i'm more focused on making a Geiger tube and testing the current amplification from several ionizing radiation sources. Cosmic rays, x-rays, and an alpha emitter.

An alpha emitter emits positive ions. These cause less avalanche events than an electron, but because they are sucked to the negative electrode with force, they knock loose electrons from the metal atoms upon impact which in turn are shot to the positive electrode  creating the avalanches. And i can put a piece of alpha emitter in the tube, which would emit positive ions for around 100 years or so.  Just wish their was an easy to come by beta (electron) emitter to compliment it, but in theory a cathode ray tube should work for that. Or x-rays hitting the electrode knocking electrons from the metal atoms.


Conclusion...

The Townsend avalanche seems to be the same thing as the nuclear chain reaction that powers nuclear power plants..... Except on a smaller scale  (in the ion scale instead of protons and neutrons)....without radiation emissions (that aren't used)......And in a safe way because of the process's self limiting effect "Raether limit" where the gas in the tube becomes so ionized that it becomes conductive and self discharges .. in contrast to the run away nuclear chain reaction that ends up as a bomb.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Townsend_discharge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geiger%E2%80%93M%C3%BCller_tube

About the temporary voltage gains, a citate from that link I gave you;
(Make the DC pulses with more voltage's and/or faster).


Investigating the effects of adjusting the duration of the pulses, Tesla found that a pulse train which had individual
pulses with durations exceeding 100 microseconds, produced pain and mechanical pressures.  At this duration,
objects  in  the  field  visibly  vibrated  and  were  even  pushed  along  by  the  field.    Thin  wires  subjected  to  sudden
bursts of the radiant field, exploded into vapour.   When the pulse duration was reduced to 100 microseconds or
below, the painful effect was no longer felt and the waves are harmless.
 
With a pulse duration of 1 microsecond, strong physiological heat was felt.  With even shorter pulse durations,
spontaneous illuminations capable of filling rooms with white light, were produced.  Even shorter pulses produced
cool room penetrating breezes with an accompanying uplift in mood and awareness.  These effects have been
verified by Eric Dollard who has written about them in some detail.

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Re: I will be testing high voltage capacitor self charge, T.H.Moray style
« Reply #4 on: November 15, 2013, 10:09:02 PM »
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