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Author Topic: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism  (Read 71625 times)

Offline TechStuf

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2013, 02:52:21 AM »
Good point, Vrand. 


Some will always prefer to climb a tree to see what they can see, while others prefer to keep feet to ground and dig to seek out the root of the matter. 

Man's capacity for understanding remains yet so very small.

Also, note the obviously incorrect quanta flow in the 'university' models.

http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/212_spring2007.web.dir/ashley_hinton/images/Magnetic_Field_Lines.gif

Put two N poles at opposition in close proximity (note that the clap trap science halls show that this pole is where flow emanates)  Now do the same with two S poles in close proximity.  What?  No difference in opposing force?  This despite all supposed quanta flow is entering each S pole? 

And the never ending parade of minions line up to pay for such an "education" as this.....

Clearly BOTH poles emanate and receive flow, which accounts for the field balance.



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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #31 on: February 01, 2013, 04:44:55 AM »
Hi All,

Primer Fields Part 2 is up.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2NogyJ0k8Kw

Pretty amazing.

It's interesting how quickly the field switches by changing the polarity of the input, also how slightly moving the bottom bowl around can create a twist in the field.

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #32 on: February 02, 2013, 12:33:19 AM »
I've been waiting for this part, glad to see its finally up. I love how it describes the internal fields of the bowls. I wonder if the "flip ring" and the "choke ring" are in-fact just magnetized rings built into these bowls.... However I suspect there is much more to it than that.

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #33 on: February 02, 2013, 12:46:05 AM »
Hi
Was waiting for part two myself.
It looks good , but the monopolar magnets ( never explained ) are the big question mark.

There it is , my first post.
Was following this forum for ages :)

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #34 on: February 02, 2013, 12:57:36 AM »
Or is it just two normal speaker magnets , with oposite poles extended with bowls ?
And if you keep them close , they will be one normal magnet , with space to experiment between them ?
cheers from Ireland

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #35 on: February 02, 2013, 01:26:16 AM »



I was going to post some quasi relevant musings, but haven't the time.  I'm rushing out to trademark the terms:


AC Donut


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Magneto-Sphincter




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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #36 on: February 02, 2013, 02:36:08 AM »
Well
I guess "magnetic Annulus" is all mine then ?


Thx
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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #37 on: February 02, 2013, 05:14:54 AM »
lol.....


I guess my point, if there was one, was that exciting observations all too often inspire their own demise by the always and ever more exciting resultant theories.


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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #38 on: February 02, 2013, 05:19:24 AM »
Sorry, ran roughshod over HH's introduction.  Cheers from the American side o' the puddle! 




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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #39 on: February 02, 2013, 10:02:22 PM »
@HH and everyone else having watched these two videos,
 
I have to agree they are mesmerizing productions, excellently presented.
 
But no matter how much I want to buy their concept, I fail to understand the logic of using magnets that expresses such an excentric and unnatural magnetic geometry.

The two magnets used in the experiments are shaped into forms that twarts the normally expressed shape of a magnetic field. One of the poles has been given an exterior domination, resulting in a expression of field geometry that gives rise to inteference patterns inside the bell shape, reffered to as "Flip Ring, "Choke Ring" and "Confinement Dome".
 
The fact that these strange interference patterns show similarites to the patterns found in depicted nebulas does not carry enough momentum to survive proper scientific scrutiny as long as the magnetic geometry created is deviating distinctly from naturally created magnetic field geometries. In order to resemble the same field geometry as in the experiment, it seems reasonable that the nebula has to be subjected to the same surrounding bell shaped magnet, which just is not there.
 
Still it is an interesting video and the magnetic field observations made by the Primer Field guys would have been interesting enough without all the many unfounded preconceptions so frivoly deducted from their experiments.
 
But it all comes back to the contorted magnetic field of theirs. They never mention in their videos the reason for using these twisted magnets in relation to natural magnetic phenomena, and that leaves a big question mark.
 

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #40 on: February 02, 2013, 11:17:30 PM »
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The two magnets used in the experiments are shaped into forms that twarts the normally expressed shape of a magnetic field.

Perhaps you didn't catch the demonstration in the first video, which shows how a compass needle is passed around the magnets and moves just as it does when passed around a normal bar magnet.  The reason they use plasma, is to try and understand the deeper nature of the common dipole.  Davis, Johnson, and others got it right without using plasma....they kinda 'brailled' it.  The field models as shown in the "science" halls show the "donut" field because that is what is revealed to them by how other magnets act in the parent field.  Not how the field itself is shaped.  But how can such a difference, actually make a difference?  Indeed!  Very simple experiments easily show that the dynamics of a magnetic field as expressed in the universities cannot be correct.  I submit that the omission is intentional.  In either case, what does it reveal about many a 'hallowed hall'?  It is probable that the PTB know by now, more of the deeper nature of the common dipole, and lets face it....the old adage is true: 

"Teach a man to think that he's thinking and he will love you.  Make him really think, and he may hate you."  And universities, like many other institutions, so love to be loved.  In spite of the fact that the leaders of the 'civilized' world have nearly all been college graduates for decades, and look at where they have lead the planet! 

It has become crystal clear to many that one of the last things that the PTB want, is for any but themselves to really think, but are they really thinking?  The more people that wake up and begin Really Thinking, the more righteous indignation spreads. 

Not only is the true field structure of the common dipole apparently intentionally hidden from 'higher' education's paying customers....but the dynamics of the field as well.

The PTB are playing with some deceptively advanced toys.

http://rense.com/general54/babalc.htm

http://rense.com/general81/myst11.htm

And so are those who've been cast down to the vicinity of our planet....to mislead the kings and military commanders of the world, and gather them together for war with our Creator.

Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. - Acton

If man has proven anything in his short sojourn on this once bejeweled speck of Creation, it is truth of the above quote.



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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #41 on: February 03, 2013, 01:50:09 AM »
@TS
 
I have watched the videos several times. I really like their theory. It's just that the unnatural setup with two bell shaped magnets seems a bit forced, no matter how impressive the plasma geometry.
 
The reason why these two bell shaped magnets give the same surrounding field appearence as one single natural magnet is due to their opposite poles being "hidden" inside the interior of the bell.
There is nothing unique with that. Just a nice trick to make two bell shaped magnets display the magnetic field appearance of one single naturally expressed magnetic field system.
 

On the other hand, I am in no way backing up the poor explanations of physical phenomena made by contemporary science, especially not magnetism which I still regard as a white spot on the map of knowledge, but I recommend detachment from any theory until novel implementation based upon the theory is realized.
 

This especially accounts for the probability of any alternative outlook on physical reality. So many different and complex theories challenging orthodox science are available today.
 
My advice in regard to theories like this is to be open minded but detached.
Stay a bit aloft, and respond neutrally like the Zen buddist saying: Is that so?
 

Save your passion for the moments of self induced realization of physical implementation, attained in your own garage.
That's the only place where you can differ the "wheat from the chaff".
 

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #42 on: February 03, 2013, 09:31:24 AM »
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The reason why these two bell shaped magnets give the same surrounding field appearence as one single natural magnet is due to their opposite poles being "hidden" inside the interior of the bell.

Having worked hands on with PM shapes too numerous to fully recount, I can say that the opposing poles are certainly not 'hidden'.  That is unless one mistakenly assumes that flux quanta resonate at visible spectrum wavelengths and is only observing from the convex side... ;)   No, flux lines are better programmed than that.  There are several ways to imitate the common dipole with open architecture, which fact in itself lets us glimpse deeper into their workings. 

To those who may be tempted to reject novel observations based on preconception, I would say: Don't resist wrestling with the deeper aspects, preferring instead to judge the book by it's dewy decimal reference number. 

You'll be glad you did!



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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #43 on: February 03, 2013, 03:57:49 PM »
I looked at the first 30 minutes of the first clip.  It a nutshell the clip is nonsense.  What has puzzled me for clips like this is what is the motivation for making them?  Who is making them and why are they making them?  They appear to be professionally done so someone is paying for them.

Perhaps they were done for all of the cable channels out there that cater to this stuff?  If so, then it's possible that this is just an exercise in investing and hoping for a profit when you try to sell your product to the TV networks at the annual trade shows for television content.  The fact that the material is complete nonsense is irrelevant, it's just another way to make money.

Another possibility is a really wealthy guy is on a "quest" and he really believes this stuff and he pays to have his ideas turned into a very slick professional set of movies to stroke his own ego.

He shows a "north" bowl and a "south" bowl and seemed to be indicating that they are monopoles.  As Gwandau pointed out several times there is no such thing as an all-north or all-south magnet.

In fact, there is no such thing as "north" and "south" parts of a magnetic field.  Those are terms created by scientists to just make it easier to discuss magnets in general.  Some people believe that there is a difference between "north" and "south" when there is none.  Again, "north" and "south" don't even really exist in magnetism.  The narrator in the clip makes a big deal about distinguishing north and south and has his differently coloured bowls.  So my assumption is that the author of this clip does not understand the basics of magnetism.  So the clip ends up being delusions built on top of a big delusion.

I hate these clips because they are "dumbing down" forces.  It's a common theme in science fiction where whole societies are built around artificial constructs that are false and the population is unaware because the false artificial constructs have been around for generations.  That's what this clip ultimately does, it hurts people by feeding them a pack of nonsense and lies.  Assuming that somebody is making money from this clip. they don't care that they are dumbing you down.  All that they want is the money.  Or perhaps like I said it's a rich dummy stroking his ego trying to spread his "dumminess" around to the general population with the false notion in his head that he is "enlightening" people.

This reminds me of the Bedini followers that believe that there is a Bloch wall in the center of a standard bar magnet and that divides the magnet into "north" and "south" halves.  There is no Bloch wall in a bar magnet and there are no "north" and "south" halves.  Likewise Bedini talks about mysterious energy from the vacuum corkscrewing it's way into the bar magnet (or coil) at the non-existent Bloch walls.

It's so bad that Bedini and his followers even talk about a "Bloch wall" at the center of an air coil.  That's completely ridiculous.

I know my comments will be upsetting to some, but you have to see this series of clips for what they really are.

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #44 on: February 03, 2013, 06:49:44 PM »
The first red flag for me was: "This will change the world".

The fellow seems delusional.

 

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