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Author Topic: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism  (Read 71623 times)

Offline Benevolent

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In this video series the currently accepted theories of physics and astrophysics are shaken to the core by a radical new theory of the fundamental forces in all matter.

You will be amazed as a magnetic model of the dome at CERN is used to create a 100 mm diameter plasma Sun with a 300 mm diameter equatorial disc of plasma around it!

All the plasma videos are actual footage with no enhancement or manipulation other than speed. In other words, this is real thing. Hard to believe, but it is all true.

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2013, 12:13:26 AM »
Maybe I got it wrong, but don't they say in the video that they are using two separate "single pole" magnets, the red one said to be magnetic north pole and the blue one south pole???
 
Single pole magnets???
 
To anyone not knowing about the inevitable dipolarity of magnets, their video gave the impression that there exists mono polar magnets. ::)

 
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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2013, 12:13:26 AM »
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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #3 on: January 07, 2013, 12:22:50 AM »

Single pole magnets???
 
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Yes :D

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #4 on: January 07, 2013, 12:47:01 AM »
Maybe I got it wrong, but don't they say in the video that they are using two separate "single pole" magnets, the red one said to be magnetic north pole and the blue one south pole???
 
Single pole magnets???
 
To anyone not knowing about the inevitable dipolarity of magnets, their video gave the impression that there exists mono polar magnets. ::)

 
Gwandau

 
Unfortunately I used the term "single pole magnet" which is a common commercial trade name for specifically shaped magnets, which still are dipolar.
 
Mono polar magnets does not exist, although German scientists claim to have created broken microscopic monopolar ends of dysprosium titanate lattice strings in ultra low temperature and high magnetic field exposure.

 
This is what I meant:
 
Maybe I got it wrong, but don't they say in the video that they are using two separate "mono polar" magnets, the red one said to be magnetic north pole and the blue one south pole???
 
Mono polar magnets???
 
To anyone not knowing about the inevitable dipolarity of magnets, their video gave the impression that there exists mono polar magnets. ::)

 
Gwandau
 

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2013, 01:22:52 PM »
An interesting video!  Yet there is little shared in it that has not already been discovered.  Albert Roy Davis shared this model in 1936! And much, much more since.

http://magnetage.com/ARD_Lab_History.html

http://www.thunderbolts.info/forum/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?p=19579

http://www.amazon.com/Magnetism-Its-Effects-Living-System/dp/0911311149

I have attached a few pics from one of my books.






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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2013, 01:49:49 PM »
Informative video, a very clear explanation of how galaxies were formed...  :)


What if we cut a bar magnet in half? Would it become a monopole north and a monople south?

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2013, 04:19:21 PM »
@crazycut06:


Conventional teaching says if you cut a magnet in half you wind up with 2 separate magnets each with it's own N/S pole ends. Take a look at this wiki page (link: [size=78%]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnetism[/size] ) down in the "Magnetic Monopoles" section.


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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #8 on: January 07, 2013, 07:06:45 PM »
Not only "conventional teaching", but also hundreds of years of experimentation.
Try it for yourself, cut any magnet in half .... I'm sure thousands of people have done so, and nobody has made a monopole magnet yet.

And it's easy to prove that the Davis "model" in the pictures above is false, with a simple magnetic compass.

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 12:45:38 AM »
@ truesearch, thanks for the info. Im kinda lazy googling stuff!  ;D


@ Tinselkoala, well you're right, everytime i cut a magnet in half they make a separate n-s poles, just thinking if a monopole is really possible.... ???

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2013, 02:13:27 AM »
@crazy.... the conventional wisdom says it's not possible. And if you think about what "field lines" are and what they represent it makes sense that it would not be possible. Field lines are closed loops, this fact is contained in Maxwell's equations as Gauss's Law: Div B = 0. Divergence of B is zero, meaning that all field lines are closed loops or extend to infinity,  and magnetic monopoles can't exist.

This is a descriptive kind of law, though; I don't think monopoles are forbidden, exactly, and lots of people are looking for them. I think that the conditions that might produce them are way out of the reach of the amateur scientist, though, and will require huge energies and "big science" kind of equipment.

The magnetic field around a straight, current carrying wire is a good example of how field lines behave. In a PM, the moving charges are unpaired electrons in the material, with aligned spins. If you think of a simplistic electron "orbiting" a nucleus in a circular orbit, there's your single loop of wire carrying a current, and the field will loop around the orbit of the electron in continuous loops just like the circles of field around a wire, and all these add together to give the bulk magnet its big field. So you can think of a bar magnet as kind of a self-powered solenoidal coil, with field lines to match.

Of course this isn't as exciting as the Davis model.... but as I said before, you can just take an ordinary compass and probe around the Earth, or a bar magnet, and see that his representation isn't a reflection of what really happens. The "dip" of the Earth's field is into and out of the  poles, and is almost zero (horizontal, no dip) around the equator, in contrast to the Davis sketches above.

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2013, 03:34:49 AM »
@crazy.... the conventional wisdom says it's not possible. And if you think about what "field lines" are and what they represent it makes sense that it would not be possible. Field lines are closed loops, this fact is contained in Maxwell's equations as Gauss's Law: Div B = 0. Divergence of B is zero, meaning that all field lines are closed loops or extend to infinity,  and magnetic monopoles can't exist.

This is a descriptive kind of law, though; I don't think monopoles are forbidden, exactly, and lots of people are looking for them. I think that the conditions that might produce them are way out of the reach of the amateur scientist, though, and will require huge energies and "big science" kind of equipment.

The magnetic field around a straight, current carrying wire is a good example of how field lines behave. In a PM, the moving charges are unpaired electrons in the material, with aligned spins. If you think of a simplistic electron "orbiting" a nucleus in a circular orbit, there's your single loop of wire carrying a current, and the field will loop around the orbit of the electron in continuous loops just like the circles of field around a wire, and all these add together to give the bulk magnet its big field. So you can think of a bar magnet as kind of a self-powered solenoidal coil, with field lines to match.

Of course this isn't as exciting as the Davis model.... but as I said before, you can just take an ordinary compass and probe around the Earth, or a bar magnet, and see that his representation isn't a reflection of what really happens. The "dip" of the Earth's field is into and out of the  poles, and is almost zero (horizontal, no dip) around the equator, in contrast to the Davis sketches above.

"So you can think of a bar magnet as kind of a self-powered solenoidal coil, with field lines to match."

What is your explanation of why the bar magnet is "self-powered"?  What causes it to not deplete?

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2013, 05:16:47 AM »
Independent verification of the Davis model by Howard Johnson.

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2013, 06:21:20 AM »
Any one have any luck finding these patents? It'd be great to understand how the bowl field emitters are magnetized.

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Re: The Primer Fields - Breakthrough in our understanding of magnetism
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2013, 07:07:44 AM »
"So you can think of a bar magnet as kind of a self-powered solenoidal coil, with field lines to match."

What is your explanation of why the bar magnet is "self-powered"?  What causes it to not deplete?


Hi Liberty,
I think TK was trying to imply that when a soleniod coil is powered, it is like a bar magnet that produces its north and south poles.


@Tinselkoala,
Thanks for some info. Im not like you guys Guru's of science  ;)

 

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