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Author Topic: V Gate Magnetic Config  (Read 34542 times)

Offline Shankopotamus

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V Gate Magnetic Config
« on: December 24, 2012, 02:58:08 AM »
My research has shown everything from hard to disprove working models of a "Calloway V Gate permanent magnet motor" (search for "Roobert33" on YouTube) to claims from people that this type of machine is impossible.

Based on this research, I was led to "Tesla's Secret" documentation which included plans for a working mag motor to effectively reduce (or even eliminate) my electric bill. I'm excited beyond belief, but weary at the same time...I don't want to venture down a road of guaranteed disappointment.

Any insight is appreciated, however, let me be clear here: The information I'm searching for is specific to the realization of magnetic motors. Although I appreciate the food for thought, I'm not interested in joining the "free energy vs. over unity debate".

Thanks! I'm excited to be a part of this community and look forward to providing any and all insight to strengthen it.

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V Gate Magnetic Config
« on: December 24, 2012, 02:58:08 AM »

Offline maw2432

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2012, 10:08:30 PM »
Hi Shank,
I suggest that you read even more.   Be weary of promises. 
Nothing so far in this forum has been proven to be totally OU from magnet motors from what I have seen, read and tried.    There are however, some very good discussions and cool discoveries, as well as, some real science.  Have fun and keep and open mind. 
I wish your holidays are filled with joy and laughter!
Bill
 

Offline happyfunball

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2012, 02:08:37 AM »
It's not a gate. It's a sloped magnetic ramp which accelerates to a dead end. If you want to get past the 'gate,' you'll need to input more force than you can harvest from the wheel in motion. It's basically dropping a rock onto the floor and calling the part where you pick it up a 'gate.' It adds false legitimacy to something which has none. Any video you see of a self sustaining V Gate is fake.

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #2 on: December 25, 2012, 02:08:37 AM »
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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #3 on: December 25, 2012, 04:03:18 PM »
I think the vgate is doable if the top magnet was replaced with a coil.
The coil could be pulsed instead of lifted to clear the gate.

Offline happyfunball

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2012, 07:55:22 PM »
I think the vgate is doable if the top magnet was replaced with a coil.
The coil could be pulsed instead of lifted to clear the gate.

Only with applied external current. Lenz would apply.

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2012, 07:55:22 PM »
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Offline Shankopotamus

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #5 on: December 26, 2012, 01:53:21 PM »
@DAVE...
Interesting...but could enough electric energy be generated from one complete rotation of the "V" to effectively "pulse" the top coil?
-never thought about it this way.

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2012, 03:15:02 PM »
Yes the coil would have to be powered by external circuit,
You can think of one rotation as one pulse, the coil is on until the gate is reached then the coil is off, allowing the gate to pass then on again.

I wonder how the coil would be effected if the drum was rotated,where the coil would be used as a gen instead of a driver, the amount of energy generated in the coil compared to a conventional setup.

The Hendershot device resembles the v gate,


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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2012, 03:15:02 PM »
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Offline happyfunball

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2012, 07:02:23 PM »
Yes the coil would have to be powered by external circuit,
You can think of one rotation as one pulse, the coil is on until the gate is reached then the coil is off, allowing the gate to pass then on again.

I wonder how the coil would be effected if the drum was rotated,where the coil would be used as a gen instead of a driver, the amount of energy generated in the coil compared to a conventional setup.

The Hendershot device resembles the v gate,

There's nowhere near enough force to create sufficient pulse current to overcome the end of the 'gate.' The V Gate is basically just dropping a magnet. Picking it back up ain't gonna happen without external current.

Offline Shankopotamus

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2012, 07:17:10 PM »
@HappyFun... & @Dave

I'm loving this. I only wish I would have found this site / group of like-minded people years ago...I was starting to think I was crazy for thinking more about free energy than what "so-and-so was doing on some dumb tv show".

I'm sure since you guys are avid users, you've probably seen this, but this is a very convincing vid, which not only moves the "gate" away from the top termination point, but also activates another "push gate" at the bottom of the revolution.

Is this possible? Or is the guy using music to mask the noise of an outside power source?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLek_3Hpwus

Thanks!

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2012, 07:17:10 PM »
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Offline happyfunball

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2012, 09:22:59 PM »
@HappyFun... & @Dave

I'm loving this. I only wish I would have found this site / group of like-minded people years ago...I was starting to think I was crazy for thinking more about free energy than what "so-and-so was doing on some dumb tv show".

I'm sure since you guys are avid users, you've probably seen this, but this is a very convincing vid, which not only moves the "gate" away from the top termination point, but also activates another "push gate" at the bottom of the revolution.

Is this possible? Or is the guy using music to mask the noise of an outside power source?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FLek_3Hpwus

Thanks!

Yes, he's using music and a rather elaborate wrap around background to hide an induction setup or an air blower. You'll notice how he's oddly careful to keep it in one spot when he rotates it 360 for a good view. It's an old video and a complete fake.

Dave45

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2012, 01:40:39 PM »
Search youtube for v gate there are alot more devices that use the gate than just this vid, the problem is no torque as a motor but I wonder what it would do as a gen.
You dismiss this out of hand when there are countless experiments that show the effect, makes me wonder.
Its the principle that needs to be investigated and built into an electromagnetic system, ie: how the fields are interacting to cause the ramp.
Study the A vector field, a magnetic field has another field that is very seldom mentioned that is electric in nature.

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2012, 01:40:39 PM »
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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2012, 01:47:40 PM »
http://www.falstad.com/vector3dm/
Go to this link after the java window opens select solenoid then in the next box select field lines.
The rotating field you see is the A vector field this field is electric in nature, it is the field that transfere's energy from one coil to another in a transformer.

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2013, 11:45:23 PM »
Hi, Ive been working on a design for the last 5 years now, its based on vgates and doesn't involve a mechanical arm to lift the bar magnet, instead i manipulate the magnetic field internally on a rotating shaft, the vgates are set around the bar magnets in a stationary casing. 3 vgates per cylinder, 12 cylinders in total. 36 bar magnets on the central shaft, 33 magnets on the ramp compared to 3 at the sticking point.  by manipulation the bar magnets as they pass the sticking point you can reduce the power of the bar magnet, allowing it to coast on to the next gate with help of the other 11 cylinders already running the gate!!!!

I seriously believe this design will work.

Offline Jdneilson

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #13 on: November 21, 2013, 12:13:15 AM »
I am based in the UK, any help towards building a prototype would be greatly appreciated.  I have decided to replace the cylinder magnets with block magnets to make a more linear track, a bit like train tracks, i feel this will give a smoother operation.

Thanks, Mr J D Neilson
Keighley, West Yorks, UK

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: V Gate Magnetic Config
« Reply #14 on: November 21, 2013, 09:56:10 PM »
What makes you believe it will work? Every single stage in the mechanism represents a small loss. When you add them all up... where do you expect the losses to be made up and overcome? In other words, where is the place in the system where the "free energy" comes in to do its work?

If your outer housing is conductive metal, the inner moving magnets will induce eddy currents in this housing, which are a further loss mechanism.

Since the "V-gate" mechanism you are starting with as inspiration doesn't work, except in "faked" videos, why do you expect your design to work? For anyone to try to construct a prototype for you, one would hope that some theoretical justification for doing so would be provided. I don't see it.


 

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