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TommeyLReed

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Building a Clem's engine
« on: December 01, 2012, 02:03:44 PM »
After testing simple water version of the Clem's engine, I started working on the cooking system.
This is the water test:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8TEvKAGpqOw
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Re: Building a Clem's engine
« Reply #1 on: December 02, 2012, 08:53:54 PM »
Hi Tommey,

Excellent work.

How much of a drop are you seeing on the current draw of the motor, from initial starting to full speed?

TommeyLReed

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Re: Building a Clem's engine
« Reply #2 on: December 02, 2012, 10:06:01 PM »
40% load drop...
I'm working on a cooking oil version now, using a power steering pump.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TqNecrjZZs&feature=plcp
Tom

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Re: Building a Clem's engine
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2012, 10:08:25 AM »
Hi Tommey,
looks good! I wish you all the best with your researches. Hope you will succeed this time ;)


TommeyLReed

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Re: Building a Clem's engine
« Reply #4 on: December 03, 2012, 01:06:16 PM »
This is my thoery of how the Clem engine could work:
The pump(power steering) is used to force cooking oil into the redesign torque converter, this will also produce heat under a load.
As the fluid is pump in, the air cavity is compressed above, like a  accumulator , as the pressure increase, so will the temperature (v1/t1=v2/t2).
As the volume of fluid increase in the drum, the jet thrusters produce greater thrust, this will cause the drum to rotate.
As the drum rotates, the pump inside the upper chamber of the torque converter,  cavitates the oil and the compress air, this will also increase heat and make micro bubbles of mixed oil/air.
As the fluid enters the jets ports, there could be a micro-explosion due to the compress air bubbles, like a diesel engine that use compress air&temperature to run the engine.
My thrust should be about 50lb of thrust @ 326psi (thrust@326psi)
50lb thrust / 8 = jets=6.25 thrust lb for each jet is needed
 
Jet dia (d) =5/32=0.15625 or (r)=0.078125
 
a= ((pi(r^2))=0.01917
 
p=326 psi
 
thrust= a*p
What do you all think?
It take time for my post, because it has to be approve by OU!

 

vince

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Re: Building a Clem's engine
« Reply #5 on: December 05, 2012, 09:11:31 PM »
Great to see you back Tommey!

I have one comment about your setup. In the original "conceptual" drawing of the Clem engine, the intake to the spiral turbine was interconnected to the pump with a check valve and sat in the oil sump.  Pressure from the pump got the unit running. Once the unit achieved it's required speed  the check valve in the system allowed sump oil to be drawn up into the spiral chamber and the pump was no longer needed to continue the cycle.  With your new design the intake to your turbine is on top and fed by the power steering pump. Your sump feeds the intake to the pump. For your unit to self maintain it will have to draw oil from the power steering pump to continue operating.  If you stop the pump motor the oil will have to flow from your turbine sump to the intake of the power steering pump, thru the pump vanes and pressure hose to the top of the turbine. I'm curious as to your thoughts on all the extra flow restrictions you are imposing on the system.  I know the original drawing was just a concept and not from Clem himself but it did make sense. 
In any case I look forward to your videos.
Great work you're doing!

Vince

TommeyLReed

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Re: Building a Clem's engine
« Reply #6 on: December 05, 2012, 09:59:34 PM »
Hello Vince,
 I try to do just that, but could not get the system to pump on its own. I think the Clem engine was doing something else.
I have added a bypass to allow the vacuum to pull in the oil as the drum reach higher speeds, even in this version.
 I do think that nobody really knows if this engine worked or how it could work.
All I can do is experiment, and find the answers to the Clem mystery.
This is another update today:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-p1RSiBJpQ&feature=plcp
Tommey Reed

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Re: Building a Clem's engine
« Reply #7 on: January 08, 2013, 07:00:40 PM »
Does anybody know what happened to Tommey Reed's you tube videos?  I was following his progress and it seems that after video 29 he pulled all his video's off line and closed his you tube account! This happened last year as well.  He was posting as homeprojectguy then innovationmadesimple this last time.  He had just made his latest impeller for the Clem engine and then just disappeared.  Seems like a shame because he was doing great work and if anyone was going to prove  out that engine it was him!                                     
  Tommey, if your looking in at this forum let us know happened?


Vince

TommeyLReed

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Re: Building a Clem's engine
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2013, 08:17:29 PM »
Hello Vince,
 The reason I romoved the videos is Jim Ray, he has beed working on the Clems engine for years, yet he has nothing, until he claims he solved the mechanical problems after seeing my video's.
He wants to patent and control this Clem engine, Jim Ray has a web site at:microcombustion at:
http://www.micro-combustion.com/
I have a new youtube name, and have all of the video still, I will have to upload them in the future...
I am almost finished with a new test run, I will put up soon, but won't show how I make it...
 
 
Tom....
 

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Re: Building a Clem's engine
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2013, 11:25:17 PM »
I'd like to know also.  Bump for more information.

TommeyLReed

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Re: Building a Clem's engine
« Reply #10 on: January 09, 2013, 02:35:11 AM »
My new youtube channel.
This is the first high speed test using 250-300psi to reach speeds above 3,000 rpm's.
This is a simple pipe setup to prove that cooking oil could run a Richard Clem engine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDWjw2-IW0g
I also calculated the thrust at 250 psi with two 3/64 jets:
(pi/2 * 250psi * 3/64 *3/64)=.86lb thrust for each jet, a total of 1.72lb thrust.
The velocity is :
250psi/.433 =577.4
V=sq/root (2 *32 * 577.4)
Velocity=192.2fps.
 
The diameter of the rotation was about 12"
Circumference (12*pi)/12=3.14ft
Peek RPM's (192.2fps*60sec)/3.14ft=3672.6 rpm's.

 

TommeyLReed

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Re: Building a Clem's engine
« Reply #11 on: January 09, 2013, 02:45:42 AM »
Lets start with the Clem's engine output.

Richard Clem Said the the motor produce 350hp at 2300 rpm's as he claimed:
hp=torque ft/lb * rpm/5252
That would mean that 350hp * 5252/2300rpm=799ft/lb of constant torque.

That is alot of torque, but if you break it down it looks like this:

I believe a 3ft diameter drum would work.
3ft diameter drum you would need (799/1.5)=532lb of thrust.

using 32 jets will mean that each jet will need only (533/32)=16.7lb of
thrust
using 16 jets will mean that each jet will need only (533/16)=33lb of
thrust
using   8 jets will mean that each jet will need only (533/ 8)= 66lb of
thrust

The torque need at 350 hp, I would use more jets at lower thrust then
less one that will need greater volume and pressure.


Each jet will need for THRUST = 1.57 * 900psi * 0.125( jet)od *
0.125(jet)od=22lb of thrust and reach rpm's greater then 2300.

This does not include the rotational inertia effects on the jets, that
will create it's own head pressure..

Just some basic data, tells me alot.

I would go with a low power system, but at high rpm's to run a
generator.

This would prove if OverUnity takes place.

Tom

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Re: Building a Clem's engine
« Reply #12 on: January 09, 2013, 03:26:34 PM »
Glad your still around!  Thanks for the update.

Why not do a definitive test of your nozzle force.  You could put a scale on the end of a 1 foot  pipe rotor and test different nozzles to see what actual force is being generated at that distance. With that torque knowledge you could easily calculate number of nozzles needed and capacity of the pump to supply them.

Vince

TommeyLReed

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Re: Building a Clem's engine
« Reply #13 on: January 09, 2013, 03:37:21 PM »
I agree, but right now  have to finish this other prototype.
 I need to test the rpm's and input load. The rotational inertia should decrease in motor load, due to creating it's own head pressure from the inertia.
 
Tom...
 
 

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Re: Building a Clem's engine
« Reply #14 on: January 09, 2013, 03:41:29 PM »
I agree, but right now  have to finish this other prototype.
 I need to test the rpm's and input load. The rotational inertia should decrease in motor load, due to creating it's own head pressure from the inertia.
 
Tom...

tom, i miss your you-tube videos, you need to make more.