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Author Topic: Lynx Joule Inverter  (Read 101555 times)

Offline Lynxsteam

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Lynx Joule Inverter
« on: November 29, 2012, 06:42:40 PM »
I am really excited with this circuit for its simplicity and function.  I don't know of any other way to get this much light for so little power.

I had put all the electronics away in a box, quite content with the LynxJouleLamp lighting my front yard and garage off the DC converter.  Then you guys keep exploring and doing intriguing things.  I tried the Crossover circuit, maybe I did something wrong but the light is not very useful, and multiple bulbs kills it.  Got me thinking though, drawing yet simpler circuits. 
Last night I stumbled on something after hours of moving wires, jumping to this diode and that capacitor, trying this transformer and that....

Lynx Joule Inverter recipe
Ingredients:
Transformer.  I have used 1:1, 2:1, 10:1, 20:1, audio, radio shack, ECore and they all work. 
A 120 volt LED bulb or a couple. 
9-12 volt battery.

These bulbs wont light on 12 volts but they may flash.  That's the key.  They propagate the field in the transformer.  The hz is running at 168, amp draw is .017-.050  Its interesting because these bulbs are rated for 120V AC and 48ma.  So these bulbs are running on 1/10th the voltage.

I'll do a video later today and post here.  I'm calling it the Lynx Joule Inverter because it does what an inverter does, and acts like a Joule Thief.  No transistor, capacitor or resistor needed.

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Lynx Joule Inverter
« on: November 29, 2012, 06:42:40 PM »

Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2012, 10:11:33 PM »
Hah... I think I get the idea.  Very nice! The LED lamp itself is causing the oscillations that make the transformer effect work with "DC" supply. You hook up the battery to the lesser-turn side of the transformer. This causes a current surge that makes a voltage spike on the primary that is enough to flash the bulb which causes a further current draw, dropping the input voltage, dropping the output voltage, turning the light bulb off.... which causes another spike which causes another current drain on the battery.... self-oscillation, maybe !

I think this will require knowing the exact make and model of your LED bulb.... and might also be affected by cliplead inductance and connection security, and ghosts, for all I know.

I am just speculating, and I'm about to go out to buy one of those bulbs.... Please ....what's the spec on the bulb??

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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2012, 11:25:32 PM »
Here is the video of the Lynx Joule Inverter.  I show it running 1,2,3 bulbs off several transformers.  These bulbs always baffled me because they draw too much power off SJR3.0, and the LJL.  But look what they do off a simple transformer!
I am sure brightness can be affected by turns ratio and the transformer resistance.  Each transformer I show has a different characteristic.  If you see flicker just reverse the secondary.  If you do wind a transformer pull out several taps and number the turns.
Positive 12v to a primary lead, other primary to bulb, secondary to bulb, other secondary to ground (negative 12 v)
Have fun!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz5fR0yn0yI

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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
« Reply #2 on: November 29, 2012, 11:25:32 PM »
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Offline evolvingape

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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
« Reply #3 on: November 29, 2012, 11:56:23 PM »
Hi Lynxsteam,

What you have discovered is an automatic governer for electrical systems with an extremely simple circuit. Well done, I am very impressed!

I have been focusing heavily on this technology principle for alternative fields and slowly bringing this knowledge into the community. It is an essential principle for automatic control of a system, effectively hunting:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steam_turbine_governing

http://www.overunity.com/13110/everyman-automatic-pwm-steam-governer-assembly/msg345286/#new

Governer technology is extremely important, I will have to think about the potential applications in electrical fields, but it is the same as automatic control over pressure and mass flow of a fluid, or in this case voltage and current.

Watching this with interest, keep up the good work!

Rob  ;D


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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2012, 02:49:25 AM »
Tinsel

The bulbs are either GE or Philips (maybe others).  Philips 3W LED and GE 3W LED use the same electronics base made in China LED3A15/C 100-127 v 50/60hz

They run poorly on SJR or the LJL circuits.  Big amp hogs.  But they run very nice just off just a transformer.  Everything is cool, no ringing, low ma.  The circuitry in the bulb is turning the DC on and off.  But once that starts the L1 and L2 start oscillating.  Depending on the transformer Hz can be 168 and up to 1000.

Positive 12 v to primary, other primary to bulb, secondary to bulb, other secondary to negative 12 v.

If you get flicker reverse the secondary.

I think with some tinkering we can find the right number of turns, resistance, and turns ratio for full brightness. 

« Last Edit: November 30, 2012, 04:18:15 AM by Lynxsteam »

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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
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Offline NickZ

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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2012, 06:06:28 AM »
  Nice to see you back again. Have you tried to light any Cfls on this set up?
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Offline TinselKoala

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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2012, 11:14:47 AM »
Lynx, that is so cool, a real discovery of merit. I still haven't had a chance to get out and buy a bulb.

Are you running with a battery, or using a bench or PC power supply?

Now to watch the video... heh... and there it is, on the battery. Good!
 :D

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Offline Magluvin

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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2012, 02:03:05 PM »
So, according to the drawing above by lynx, all that is needed is a series inductor, not necessarily a transformer.  ;)

Mags

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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2012, 02:47:45 PM »
So, according to the drawing above by lynx, all that is needed is a series inductor, not necessarily a transformer.  ;)

Mags

Maybe. There might be some interaction between the windings, meg-like or just moving saturation points around. It would be interesting to probe the transformer with a strong magnet.

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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
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Offline evolvingape

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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2012, 02:58:21 PM »
I think with some tinkering we can find the right number of turns, resistance, and turns ratio for full brightness.

This is the same procedure as setting the spring pressure for a pressure relief valve:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Relief_valve

A PRV dumps the pressure to atmosphere to prevent a dangerous overpressure condition in the chamber.

The alternative application embodied in the Everyman governer is to maximise potential power to do useful work, a process of swapping springs (resistance) until you find the right balance to maximise performance.

The parallels between the known technologies and Lynx's discovery are very interesting to me. I have my thinking cap on...

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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2012, 03:52:57 PM »
Magluvin

Yes, you are right.  Just an Inductor for these bulbs.  Makes it even easier now.  If the Inductance is too low the bulbs only flash.  Either winding on most of the transformers works but the primary on the ECore is too low Inductance.  Power draw is the same in this mode.  Power draw is self adjusting as you add bulbs, brightness is better with heavier gauge windings.

I wound an inductor on a Ferrite snap together choke.  Super easy and works very well.  A coil of heavy gauge wire on a pvc tube works well too.  Ahhh, I miss the days when we used circuit boards.  The circuit is now in the bulb.

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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2012, 04:10:10 PM »
Hi Lynxsteam,

Very cool, thanks for showing it.  I wonder somehow a variable mains auto transformer (Variac) could be used  to figure out the best ratio?  Possibly the variac would need some modification though.

Thanks, Gyula

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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2012, 04:46:13 PM »
Verrrrrrry cool! Nice inverter.
 Of course, I want to try it out with my light box to see how it performs quantitatively, but already --
1.  off-the shelf transformer
2.  NO transistors or diodes added.

Thanks, LynxSteam!


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Re: Lynx Joule Inverter
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2012, 12:49:51 AM »
I tried some inductors alone.  Didn't work.  The transformer works best.  Really needs that ferrite core, or steel laminations, otherwise you have to wind a monster aircore coil.  I have a Philips 3.5 watt bulb which doesn't work because it is dimmable.  be careful when choosing a test bulb.  Find a non-dimmable.

 

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