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Offline tagor

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #600 on: May 24, 2008, 08:18:23 PM »
Part of a translated commentary by Charlie Renegade, whoever he is  ???


The experiment was made in Belgium by physicist Eric D'ocker (or D'Hoker or even D'Hocker), which claims to have obtained secondary 4x more energy than it would have sent the primary. Myth or Reality? Where does the energy thus created? The professor said that referring Valley Energy and amplified in the primary (carbon + winding) it is possible to amplify the power of the current maximum of 8 kW per gram of carbon. Any replacement of carbon by another material is ineffective (no amplification). It is therefore possible, from a small electrical pulse to start, get an electric current self-powered and self-amplified from a single stick of carbon? Professor Ren?-Louis Valley states, Professor Eric D'ocker confirmed.
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this is a lot of craps

nobody knows about the reality of this setup !!!

you speak of : Eric d'Hoker ( I put a lot of link on this setup)

he was a student in 1975
he was a in contact with R L Vallee before 1975
he was never more in contact with R L Vallee after his setup

now he is a real known professor
I am sure he does not answer to your questions ( you know what happened to Pons and Fleishman !)

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #601 on: May 24, 2008, 08:21:51 PM »
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when and where is the OU conference ?
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The first International Overunity Conference will be held at Bohemian Grove.       JK  we don't know where or when it's gonna be yet,  maybe Berlin or the Caymans.   Right now it's just an idea.  Maybe we should start a thread to discuss people's ideas.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #602 on: May 24, 2008, 08:40:29 PM »
again, energetics are such that beta particles should not be produced with this reaction.

even in the presence of distributed graphene (which should actually be graphane since it contains no double bonds - semantics).

The arc was influenced due to the lorentz force.

Another interesting effect is to charge up a HV capacitor with small plates soldered onto the leads. Hold the plates on either side of a candle flame.

Ever see a flame turn sideways?

Yes, flames are plasma.

All charged particles obey the lorentz force. A flame can be influenced by a magnetic field, but since it is an equilibrium plasma, convective forces will generally dominate until you reach substantially higher magnetic field strengths than you would normally run into in an average lab setting.

The beta particles will feel an electrostatic or magnetic field just like any other electron.

give it a shot with a candle or torch and those neos, however. Perhaps combine the effects, I'd love to see it!



I tried the experiment with a torch but the magnets had no effect on the flame that I could perceive. The magnets are now 2+ years old so perhaps not a strong now.

Thanks for the explanation.

-Duff

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #603 on: May 24, 2008, 09:50:58 PM »
The first International Overunity Conference will be held at Bohemian Grove.       JK  we don't know where or when it's gonna be yet,  maybe Berlin or the Caymans.   Right now it's just an idea.  Maybe we should start a thread to discuss people's ideas.

 :D  Berlin is good for me as i am in Holland. A new thread on iInternational Overunity Conference is a good idea. I'd like to know Stefan's thoughts on this before i get to expectant.

im off topic so ill stop here
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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #604 on: May 24, 2008, 09:57:18 PM »
@Duff,
First, my compliments to you on your experiment design and documentation. Second, did you have a voltage (can be either DC or low audio AC) providing a current through the flame? In order for the flame to be effected by the magnets there must be a current flowing through it. The current will be carried by ions (charged particles in the gas of the flame). A candle is usually used to do this. I have not personally done this, but I do think it works.

EDIT: Best to use DC. It may be hard to see the flame moving with AC input.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #605 on: May 25, 2008, 12:51:11 AM »
@Duff

For more information on flame plasma please visit http://www.sparkbangbuzz.com .

This person has certainly had controlled current using a flame. I saw no reference to using static magnetic fields but he has a link posted for questions. Many fun experiments there but probably a bit under your caliber from the one you shared.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #606 on: May 25, 2008, 03:16:34 AM »
LOL , You guys are going to like this ;D
I have been doing some experiments based on R L Vallee's setup and actually started getting good results, ie positive results. The solution is actually quite simple, it's based on an EMP, that is Electromagnetic Pulse. The U.S and other countries have developed EMP weapons, they essentially send a large short duration current through a coil packed with C4 and detonate it, the explosion/ionization accelerates the "static" magnetic field outward. The key here is that a static magnetic field is super accelerated by electrostatic forces--- not the current flow producing a "changing" magnetic field. When a capacitor is abruptly discharged through a small carbon rod there are magnetic forces but more importantly there are large electrostatic forces as well. That is how I found my answer, I was using a carbon rod and wire to arc near a magnet sitting on a coil and found it is the intermittent discharge in the arc that moves the PM field, not the magnetic forces persay. When these capacitor discharges are very abrupt the output voltage rises but more importantly the current follows as well, but this rise is also based on the current flow in the coil surrounding the carbon rod. In any case things are looking better than they did yesterday, I will post if I have any more positive results.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #607 on: May 25, 2008, 04:02:15 AM »
Allcanadian Good news!!! I always like good news [who doesn't]  THANKS  Chet

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #608 on: May 25, 2008, 05:00:54 AM »
Positive results are always good news!

Now, if I can just find a carbon rod 5 inches long and 6 inches in diameter I could make use of an earlier project.

NNEMPs have a few different configurations. Explosive compression is just one. There is also explosive expansion. Easier yet - disruptive discharge expansive.

In any case I've tried, the results can't be cycled easily. If Allcanadian is right the carbon rod replacing my spark gap may make it functional at low power levels (relative to the levels I've used before).

Still, if you are correct about this being an EMP effect then it is the reconnection (resulting return compression) where the intensity is highest. A small scale NNEMP will do its highest level of damage to itself and adjacent surroundings (speaking of very low altitude applications).

At the risk of sounding even more crazy than my reputation dictates - I'm thinking @Inventor81's listing of suggested reading applies very well indeed.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #609 on: May 25, 2008, 05:28:42 AM »
LOL , You guys are going to like this ;D
I have been doing some experiments based on R L Vallee's setup and actually started getting good results, ie positive results. The solution is actually quite simple, it's based on an EMP, that is Electromagnetic Pulse. The U.S and other countries have developed EMP weapons, they essentially send a large short duration current through a coil packed with C4 and detonate it, the explosion/ionization accelerates the "static" magnetic field outward. The key here is that a static magnetic field is super accelerated by electrostatic forces--- not the current flow producing a "changing" magnetic field. When a capacitor is abruptly discharged through a small carbon rod there are magnetic forces but more importantly there are large electrostatic forces as well. That is how I found my answer, I was using a carbon rod and wire to arc near a magnet sitting on a coil and found it is the intermittent discharge in the arc that moves the PM field, not the magnetic forces persay. When these capacitor discharges are very abrupt the output voltage rises but more importantly the current follows as well, but this rise is also based on the current flow in the coil surrounding the carbon rod. In any case things are looking better than they did yesterday, I will post if I have any more positive results.

could you post a drawing or photo of your setup?

thanks

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #610 on: May 25, 2008, 05:54:57 AM »
I am using the exact setup I found posted in this thread as shown below---minus the glass tube, I think the setup tesla2006 posted will work as well. In the tesla2006 setup he is adding another winding "on" the toroid itself to produce a small current flow/static magnetic field as he states, this is the field to be accelerated by the carbon rod field, I do not believe this is standard EM induction as the static magnetic field appears to be accelerated by something else I have yet to fully understand. He is also correct in stating the carbon rod must be matched to the capacitors, you cannot use a large carbon rod without a massive capacitor bank. I am useing a carbon electrode from a AAA battery which is cut in half, my caps equal 3180uF@200v which is on the low side I believe. Tesla2006 or "juan" posted a document that outlines the parameters of what is needed and that is what I have been using as a guide .

@BEP
I should have said that I believe this process is "like" an EMP conceptually, whether the process "is" the same I have no idea.
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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #611 on: May 25, 2008, 06:06:12 AM »
@Duff,
First, my compliments to you on your experiment design and documentation. Second, did you have a voltage (can be either DC or low audio AC) providing a current through the flame? In order for the flame to be effected by the magnets there must be a current flowing through it. The current will be carried by ions (charged particles in the gas of the flame). A candle is usually used to do this. I have not personally done this, but I do think it works.

EDIT: Best to use DC. It may be hard to see the flame moving with AC input.

@xee

Yes, I mounted 17mm square copper plates on each side of the glass fixture that was used to seperate the magnet and applied 400VDC to them.  I positioned a candle flame between the plates and did not observe any pull. I also tried a tourch. I suspect the glass was interfering but that was all I tried at the time.

I did not try the plates/magnets together.


@BEP

Interesting link you provided. I had never seen flame triode before... :o

-Duff

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #612 on: May 25, 2008, 06:20:12 AM »
allcanadian,

so for a given pulsed input power Pi, you are getting a greater pulsed output power Po on the secondary?

what sort of ou ratio are you measuring?

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #613 on: May 25, 2008, 06:32:13 AM »
All,

I have experienced a second meltdown today. This leads me to believe that the first one wasn't an accident or connections error. However,  the reaction only takes place randomly and rarely. When it does, the results are devastating. The output heat and electricity are excessive. I am beginning to suspect we may not be able to control easily this reaction for continuous operation.

To the experimenters, if your system doesn't output enough heat and electricity to melt 16 to 18 gage wire, you haven't seen the reaction yet. Keep working at it. In the meantime, don't leave that thing unattended for even one second. It may energize out of control in no time. I am also beginning to suspect that might be the reason JLN didn't follow through with this research. Sustain operation requires extreme control that may not be disposal to the home experimenter.

A third meltdown might spell the end of the road for me. I hope we can find a simple system control before it happens. In the meantime, think about this for a moment: what if the output energy comes mostly in the form heat as opposed to the high EM output that we are currently focusing on?

Thanks,

Miki.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #614 on: May 25, 2008, 06:52:32 AM »
@Duff,
I hope I am not wasting your time,but if I understand correctly you had the current going in the same direction as the magnetic field. The magnetic field should be at a 90 degree angle to the current. Think of a cathode ray tube in a TV. The conductors should be perpendicular to the glass plates with the flame touching both conductors. But, like I said, I have not personally done this so I may be wrong about it working.

 

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