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Author Topic: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions  (Read 371718 times)

Offline waterfireho

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #525 on: May 23, 2008, 03:58:15 AM »

Further, the unit would definitely dissipate 60KW worth of beta into the air or the device itself, eventually turning into heat.
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Apparently I have miss understood something here....

Isn't the Beta supposed to be converted to electricity in the Copper wire of the torrid. ????

If it is dissipated as heat then the wrong conversion of energy took place ? no.


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Offline UncleFester

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #526 on: May 23, 2008, 04:01:59 AM »
Self running...

didn't happen.

It did not charge the battery.

Lol! Keep up the theories man. I get a kick every time you post hahahahaha! Since you've figure this out without any experimentation you should probably go work on the particle accelerator with your PHD friend. = )

In the meantime I'll keep plugging away and watching my scope = )

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #527 on: May 23, 2008, 04:08:44 AM »
@UncleFester
Maybe I've missed it somewhere, because I'm still wondering exactly what your device looks like. Can you give us some comprehensive documentation? Pictures would be great, along with diagrams and all the parts labeled with enough info that someone can reproduce the machine you have there.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #527 on: May 23, 2008, 04:08:44 AM »
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Offline UncleFester

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #528 on: May 23, 2008, 04:17:47 AM »
@UncleFester
Maybe I've missed it somewhere, because I'm still wondering exactly what your device looks like. Can you give us some comprehensive documentation? Pictures would be great, along with diagrams and all the parts labeled with enough info that someone can reproduce the machine you have there.

I just stopped for dinner, but about to get back to work. Pictures I can do soon once I get my new camera here (mini-dv). Documentation other than what I have posted already I cannot do, it would take forever and I don't have the time before I end up going back to work at the local coal fired power plant. Third, the device I have IS NOT in accordance with what Juan (person who started this post) had documented. My whole job here is to duplicate what he did and see if it works as he said....nothing more.

If it does end up working as Juan stated then I will post everything I did, although it will be identical or as close to Juan's machine as I could get. So everyone will have just as much information on it at that point as I will.

Offline zerotensor

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #529 on: May 23, 2008, 04:50:39 AM »
If it does end up working as Juan stated then I will post everything I did, although it will be identical or as close to Juan's machine as I could get. So everyone will have just as much information on it at that point as I will.
TJ-

Even if it doesn't work, I hope you will share with us what you did in some detail -- Please don't pull a "David Bowling" act, leaving us hanging without any salient information.  Negative results are still results!

Also, what seems to have gotten you (and us) so excited is the first setup, which behaved in a dramatic and unexpected way.  Just because it's different from Juan's machine doesn't mean it's not worth sharing.

Don't let confirmation bias prevail!  Please report your methods and results -- good, bad, or ugly.

<edit>  ps is that neon transformer the same one from the Moray experiments?  ;)
« Last Edit: May 23, 2008, 05:47:03 AM by zerotensor »

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Offline zerotensor

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #530 on: May 23, 2008, 06:05:38 AM »
I meant Gray, not Moray.  Hey.

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Offline UncleFester

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #531 on: May 23, 2008, 06:28:20 AM »
I meant Gray, not Moray.  Hey.

Oh, the Gray experiment used a Marx bank and a 120VAC input NST. 12KV @ about 6 ampere is what the discharges were. I didn't use the small HV neon supply on the original VSG experiment either, but tried it here just for kicks in the beginning. I am setting up to run a 136V @ 15000uF experiment on this next test. Gate driver is done and I have some control over pulse width but I hate using 555's for PWM. They always seem to be touchy unless they are on a real printed board. I would much rather use my Pic 16F876A PWM board but the chip is not programmed and my old programmer (Warp13A) is out of date and unable to program this newer chip. I do have an ATMega 128, but I am not proficient enough to program it in C for two channel PWM. I would also need to set it up with some opto couplers to isolate it from the spikes.

On the bright side the toroid seems to run just fine on the 12VDC @ 2 ampere input and creates a good magnetic field. I get 2VAC on the other windings and everything else seems to be ok, so I will be testing within the next couple days.

Snowed here all day (absolutely bizarre weather for may here) and UPS didn't deliver the camera and spools of wire.....hopefully tomorrow...

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Offline Inventor81

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #532 on: May 23, 2008, 06:38:50 AM »
Lol! Keep up the theories man. I get a kick every time you post hahahahaha! Since you've figure this out without any experimentation you should probably go work on the particle accelerator with your PHD friend. = )

In the meantime I'll keep plugging away and watching my scope = )

Exactly why I'm not going to be posting here anymore. Everyone wants results, and when negative ones come in with real scientists behind them, everyone poo-poos it to death and says that the investigator screwed it up.

Feynman wanted me to give a parting shot Re: the PhD convo.

Thus, I have.

Here's my last word on the subject:

Your only hope of getting OU with the inverse beta decay (btw, I'm relying on scads of electron accelerator data here, and past work in physics - change of major to Biology doesn't negate my command of the subject. This guy worked on the CLAS detector at Jefferson Labs.) is to maximize containment time (i.e. get the electrons to stick around in the media as long as possible) and to maximize energy density (narrow rod/current path + high current density) and to tune the absolute energy of the incoming particle stream (current) to exactly what you need to get the electrons to capture (tune the voltage in terms of the mean free path velocity of the electrons) and to maximize the number of interacting particles, all while minimizing input energy.

This is why we don't have a D-D, D-T, or B-H fusion reactor running yet - it takes energy and technology to accomplish every aspect of that equation.

If you want confirmation of the effect, go ahead and build your device. It works. It just doesn't, won't, can't produce enough beta as it's built to provide OU results.

If past prediction validity has anything to do with it, just know that when I predicted a 300-1keV threshold for the activation energy, I was right - the activation energy for beta capture is on the order of the highest ionization energy of the element in question.

Keep plugging away at the meters if that's what works for you. My theorizing has avoided heartache and wallet-ache in the past, and opened up opportunities as well. And math doesn't get clouded by EMI either. Unless you're using a calculator. ;-)

Offline UncleFester

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #533 on: May 23, 2008, 07:02:38 AM »
Exactly why I'm not going to be posting here anymore. Everyone wants results, and when negative ones come in with real scientists behind them, everyone poo-poos it to death and says that the investigator screwed it up.


Results come from experimentation. Tesla knew this and only got into theory when he needed to have a direction for experimentation. I've seen too many scientists come up with theories as to why something should not work only to have it work in experiments and sometimes work better than anyone could have imagined. Thus, these forums are made for experimenters and test data. Theories only detract from duplication of something that is already claimed to work. I am simply doing the work to prove or disprove, I don't care either way, as long as it settles the question as to whether the device works as stated. Theories stating why it won't work do me no good when there is proof that someone has already seen the process work. You see? It's like telling a cow farmer why is cow should not exist. It's really that simple.

But the 'he said, she said" only ends up making the thread look like a soap opera instead of a physical test to either valid or invalidate a device we've already seen pictures of and seen other REAL test data from other tests run by very reliable sources (JLN).

I'm sorry, but if you don't believe it fine.....just let us do the real work and get to the bottom of it.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #533 on: May 23, 2008, 07:02:38 AM »
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Offline tagor

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #534 on: May 23, 2008, 07:31:50 AM »
Thanks Tagor, I am glad you speak French  ;D

I don t know why Franck Vallee does not answer here or on his forum
but if so , I put the answer here

Offline Groundloop

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #535 on: May 23, 2008, 07:40:02 AM »
@UncleFester,

I did notice that you maybe need help with a micro controlled PWM design.
On my web site I already have a design that might be modified a little to
suit the job required for this circuit operation.

See : http://home.no/ufoufoufoufo/bedini/bicp.htm
(Slow site that might be down sometimes.)

The circuit on this page is controlled via RS232 from a personal computer. I use a text based
interface (HyperTerminal). The two output switches is opto insulated from the electronic. On my circuit drawing there is a battery at the output but this can be the output going to the rod. The circuit will handle big current with proper low resistance hexfets. I have tested and built this circuit and the software for the pic micro controller is done and tested. There are some minor fault on the circuit drawings that can be corrected with two resistors and a small wire. I think this circuit will be perfect for a PC controlled PWM system.

The circuit uses two switches. One for charging the capacitor and one to dump the capacitor charge into a load. Everything can be controlled from the PC such as frequency and pulse width. I also have a step up charge method built into the software.

I still have a few PCBs for this project. If you PM me your email address then you can have one PCB for free. I will include all parts soldered (with a preprogrammed PIC mcu) excluding the hexfets and heat sink. To get a working unit you have to solder the hexfets and mount them on a proper heat sink.

Groundloop.


 

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
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Offline Inventor81

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #536 on: May 23, 2008, 08:49:01 AM »
I'm sorry you don't think theoretical work isn't real. These comments only further underscore my decision to leave. I will most likely continue to monitor your progress out of curiosity.

I haven't called anyone's credibility or intelligence into question, nor the usefulness of their contribution, when contributions were made.

I think this has been covered, but there is a significant difference between doubling the background radiation level and producing a near fatal shower of radiation. No amount of tinkering can disprove the numbers if the results simply aren't there.

In short, you aren't dead. Nor do you have a radiation burn. From beta, or X-rays.

The near fatal shower of radiation is what we would require for the power levels claimed by Juan, and the shielding provided by a thin steel case would not stop X-rays, and the beta from such a reaction would, in fact, penetrate such an enclosure, cause electrostatic discharges, and create showers of multiple-keV electrons.

Unless Juan is dead, or being treated for radiation burns, I seriously doubt the veracity of his claims.

Good night, and good luck.

You have my number should you need my assistance in the future.

Offline aleks

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #537 on: May 23, 2008, 09:22:37 AM »
Isn't the Beta supposed to be converted to electricity in the Copper wire of the torrid. ????

If it is dissipated as heat then the wrong conversion of energy took place ? no.
It was a bit complicated from the very start. There are two ways to "convert" betas: store their energy in batteries or run a connected load. If both are not hapenning, betas will have a hard time to "run" any electricity and so they'll convert to heat or RF. The worst thing is 60kW, because if such unit runs on beta worth of 60kW it would overheat quickly unless toroids are engaged gradually, depending on the current draw.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #538 on: May 23, 2008, 10:02:02 AM »
Question: "A .5V 300A plasma collided with a tokamak wall when one of the containment magnets quenched. The tokamak was destroyed by primarily beta radiation."
One thing you've misread: it was 5V at 300 kilo amps incident, from what I've read.

Offline tishatang

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #539 on: May 23, 2008, 10:06:39 AM »
Hi All,

I have not seen a response to Callanan's long detailed post.  Quoted  here in part:

"The carbon rod by itself does a far better job of converting the beta energy and adding it to the energy used to cause the reaction in it.- Once the reaction is initiated by the input pulse the beta energy will get reabsorbed and converted into electrical energy that is added to the input pulse which will result in a stronger magnetic field around the carbon rod than for the initial energy of the input pulse."

If this is true, then there will be little beta to find.  The rod becomes a current multiplier with little beta escaping.

Another thought: 
Do we know for sure a short pulse is necessary for this effect?  It would be really convenient if we can discharge through a series resonant circuit tuned to say 50 or 60 hertz.  This would give AC for our projected home power plant.

Just some thoughts by a lay person on the sidelines.
Tishatang

 

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