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Feynman

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #480 on: May 22, 2008, 07:58:20 PM »
Here is groundloop's analysis of the photograph

Feynman,

It is hard to say not knowing the scale but if we assume that each toroid is capable of approx 2KWatt then the size of the torroid is too small. If I compared the torroid size with the mains fuse size(says 125 so I guess 125 Ampere at 230VAC) then I whould estimate the torroid size to be a 200 Watt core. If the torroid cores is made of Ferrite then it is possible for 2KWatt pt. each core.
The wires to the MA125 main fuse switch IS thick enough to support the current needed for a 20KWatt unit. I can see no special support for any graphite or other materials in the center of the torroids. It looks to me that a standard bolt is used to mount the torroids. This consists of a 4 mm x 100 mm bolt with two plates and some rubber insulation at both ends. The coils on the torroids seems to be made by manual winding. Each torroid has four wires connected. Two thick wires and two thin wires. This is consistent with a voltage step up or voltage step down sheme.

Truth Weight table:

For:                                                Against:
Cables is thick enough.                    Cores too small.             
Fuses are big enough                     
There are a circuit on each               Oversized breakers.         
torroid.
                                                      Can't see any graphite rods.
There seems to be a control
board for the unit.                             Looks like a temp. control board.

Part Conclution:

FOR:
If we assume the big thick wires are output from the unit and each torroid is a Ferrite core home made wire wound coil, then each torroid is big enough to support approx. 2KWatt/h of power. If we assume that each circuit on each torroid is synced from a control board (oscillator) then it IS possible to parallel couple the output from all 10 torroid circuits into one main AC bus going via a master fuse breaker designed for > 20KWatt/h to the output.

AGAINST:
The torroids seems to be mounted in a normal fasion by using the two prefabricated metal plates with two rubber insulators and a 5 mm bolt to two metal fastners. I see no evidence for any aditional material in the toroids. If we assume that the torroid cores is laminated Iron the each torroid will support approx. 200 Watt/h. There is NO heatsink (which must be big) for each circuit boards if transistor switching has been used.

Main conclution:
My best guess is that the unit take mains power FROM the mains via the thick cables into the main fuze breaker. Then there is a distrubution of mains to each transformer. Each transformer steps DOWN the mains to a suitable power level for lead acid battery charging. So each pcb has a diode bridge. From the unit there is fuze brakers protecting the unit for over current. The two circuit control board is used to monitor the temprature on two seperate battery banks. In case of over temprature the control board swith off the fuzes.

My best guess is that this is a home made lead acid battery charger for two seperate battery banks. Instead of using ONE big transformer the inventor has used 10 smaller transformers for ease of construction and lower cost.

-groundloop

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #481 on: May 22, 2008, 08:01:45 PM »
2) Is there watching or does someone know a state of the art Industrial Electrician that will comment on the pictures of what is presented as the 60kW Juan device?

I'm sure I could easily qualify. Whether I'll be correct on this or not I can't guarantee.
The wiring of the main breaker indicates DC or single phase AC. Looping one line through the unused pole is standard practice when using a three pole breaker on a DC system. I can also be done on single phase AC.
I believe the toroids are just inductive reactors. Meaning they are probably designed with intentional and set hysteresis losses in the core. Switching them into the circuit in steps would be an ideal stepped control Eddy current braking system.
I don't see the photo now but I wouldn't be surprised if it was just a dynamic braking system. There are no huge MOSfets because it doesn't take much power to pull-in those contactors.
Having said that....
In the reverse: Should the toroids be sources of power (DC) the stepped switching would work just as well to increase capacity as required. The only problem I have with that is the winding method of the toroids. I can't see that type of wind being any value to Beta collection unless there were stacked copper discs perpendicular to the reactor core.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #482 on: May 22, 2008, 08:10:06 PM »
I guess I should have mentioned honeywell makes the controller board for my oil fired furnace, as well as the air conditioner system and propane fired heater in my parent's home.

They're ubiquitous.

Those could easily be honeywell boards, since the logo looks familiar.

http://tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:k-belZtEVgyBOM:http://www.handhonline.com/images/honeywell-logo.gif

Also, at the bottom of the left hand toroid stack are two black boxes.

These are automotive relays. Decoupled with tiny electrolytic capacitors.

There be DC.

I think Juan is full of crap.

Either that, or he's not full of crap, and put up a photo of something that isn't a nuclear reactor.

He did, however, say that the whole thing provided AC and DC.

I think it's possible that the beta could be converted into a shower of low energy electrons in the core itself.

This is all very confusing to me, but I feel foggy, like someone is trying to deceive me.

I do, however, trust UF - he's not a moron.

He's a bit of a goof (as am I on occasion) but quite intelligent and capable. He also seems honest, but could probably do with a class in lab safety and proper laboratory procedure.

So could the rest of us.

Without Juan, and without his device, we have dick squat for evidence one way or the other.

I do, however, seriously doubt that the photo is of anything like what we're working on.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #483 on: May 22, 2008, 08:12:55 PM »
Okay.  I'm done goose chasing.  Experiments on the way.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #484 on: May 22, 2008, 08:31:04 PM »
Thought this was interesting...

(http://www.telatomic.com/art/nlebeta.jpg)

These low energy beta particle tracks emanated from a Carbon-14 source (included with chamber) placed at a chamber port located to the right of photograph field. Trajectories were bent by the 1000 Gauss magnetic field produced by our Rare Earth Magnet Assembly. Note the frequent scattering, as well as the increase in curvature and ionization per unit length as each particle is slowed. The maximum particle energy was 156 keV.

(http://www.practicalphysics.org/imageLibrary/jpeg250/1193.jpg)
One fast particle cross the tracks of several slow ones

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #485 on: May 22, 2008, 08:42:00 PM »
I knew the magnetic field between the rod-end magnets and the toroid field looked familiar....

http://www.nigeltyas.co.uk/images/wrought_iron_fireside_companion_set_basket.jpg

It looks just like the basket twist at the end of those handles. The outer poles of the magnets would complete loops connecting one another that would be a similar pattern, but with the ends of the basket twist pointing inward, instead of outward.

Essentially, the vector sum of the two fields serves to create a spiral magnetic field, and the beta particles would be accelerated along a perpendicular path through the magnetic field.

hope this helps with field visualization. I think I'll solder up some wire tonight to illustrate the field lines.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #486 on: May 22, 2008, 09:14:27 PM »
@All
@Those that send me some PEM.

I am underwhelmed, sorry! I looked over what was sent me and what was implied and I do not see the currents possible as exampled in some photo's using cheap HK clip leads that are press fit and not even soldered. I do want to help where I can, but I can not commit my time to what seems to be questionable. I am sorry for taking up bandwidth and not offering anything of substance, yet I wish you all well and if in some way my lab can help is specific ways, please let me know.

Hope you all find the answer..............

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #487 on: May 22, 2008, 09:25:33 PM »

With the recent discovery that there is definately OU but not in all cases beta, and the
suggestion that it could be a special magnetic oscillatory phenomenon, it is interesting
to see if Vall?e's suggested materials still perform in a similar way...

why not ask this directly to FRANCK VALLEE ?
at :
club-synergetique-owner@yahoogroupes.fr
vallee1208@yahoo.fr

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #488 on: May 22, 2008, 09:27:59 PM »
Thanks Tagor, I am glad you speak French  ;D

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #489 on: May 22, 2008, 09:28:53 PM »
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« Last Edit: May 23, 2008, 12:22:25 AM by Feynman »

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #490 on: May 22, 2008, 09:29:46 PM »
but I can not commit my time to what seems to be questionable.
He he he. It seems you can "commit" to megawatt biz only. Well, it's to be expected.

If your lab is so fine you could at least try to discharge (short) a capacitor via a thin wire (different metals, including carbon rod) in controllable conditions ("in the box") and measure released heat energy with a precise calorimeter. This would be really helpful.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #491 on: May 22, 2008, 09:44:55 PM »
Consider my contributions to this thread terminated.

Any further research will be conducted on my own.

I find the most "promising" posts to be made by the least "promising" individuals.

My sincere thanks to Dr. Stiffler for having elucidated this fact.


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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #492 on: May 22, 2008, 09:48:37 PM »
I see the picture groundloop analysed a little differently ;D
--There 125A main is correct
--On the left are 16 breakers with red jumper wires and white ones ;) it should be apparent that every 2 toroids are wired in parallel, all of these toroid pairs are then joined in series, 10 toroids total
--Each circuit board on the lower left have caps, resistors, transistors and a small black relay---everything you need for a timing circuit,there is no indication whatsoever as to what it does for a fact.
--There are green circuit boards with hidden components? small white wires to green circuit board could be series control wires from the relay circuit board below, large wires feed breakers, small black wires could power input circuit(mosfet, relay etc).
If you look carefully this circuit has every one of the components needed, every component I would use if I was building this device. There is more going on in this picture, but I don't want to let the cat out of the bag until I know for a fact what is happening.
« Last Edit: May 22, 2008, 10:32:19 PM by allcanadian »

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #493 on: May 22, 2008, 09:51:48 PM »
So Inventor, first you say,
I think the whole point is that those who have posted photos have not gotten consistent results.
If you're talking about my clip lead experiment with the resistor, I was checking to see if low voltage DC could induce the effect - i.e. searching for a lower energy density boundary condition. The clip was on the shielding, not the resistor for the carbon rod.
If you feel you don't have the time to commit, that's perfectly understandable, but in the replication which experienced self-running, the unit was rather more robustly made than might be inferred from trials on the forum here.
We will continue working.
Another researcher has volunteered use of his lab and vacuum equipment to examine the effect.
Will report back as soon as possible.
Please allow 2 weeks for delivery.

Then you quickly change your mind:

Consider my contributions to this thread terminated.

And delete your previous post...

Why the rapid turnaround?

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #494 on: May 22, 2008, 09:53:14 PM »
Consider my contributions to this thread terminated.

Any further research will be conducted on my own.

I find the most "promising" posts to be made by the least "promising" individuals.

My sincere thanks to Dr. Stiffler for having elucidated this fact.



OK, I see.