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Author Topic: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions  (Read 371730 times)

Offline Yucca

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #465 on: May 22, 2008, 06:34:14 PM »
Just a quick note, I've tried and tried dumping 64V 1mF into various carbon rods, when I dump into 0.6mm diameter 5mm length HB pencil lead I disintegrate the lead in a nice little bang! I have sandwidched the lead between two strong neos and have observed no difference in either the input or output(10ohm loaded toroid) transients, maybe my carbon isn't pure enough!

Also if we are expecting beta transmission 20ms (avg) after some nucleic transformation  then shouldn't we be expecting a gausiann pulse, peak of which is 20ms after firing rise? Juan doesn't mention this 20ms delay in any documentation, it appears his output pulse peak is well within <1ms of the firing pulse, what gives?

Having said this, I hope and dream more than I should that this is the real deal!

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #466 on: May 22, 2008, 06:42:19 PM »
Also if we are expecting beta transmission 20ms (avg) after some nucleic transformation  then shouldn't we be expecting a gausiann pulse, peak of which is 20ms after firing rise?
JLN has these "gaussian" pulses (http://jlnlabs.online.fr/vsg/vsg41.htm). If you convert timeline into log scale you'll see it. In fact, it's the "kick" we are probably looking for. Note that Dirac delta function is also modeled via gaussian curve. So, there some correlation available between transient time and power and the output. Among local experimenters only Otto was able to achieve these gaussian pulses on his o-scope.

It may sound a bit "sci fi", but I think these gaussian curves have something to do with space-time curvature. Otherwise it's pretty hard to envision natural physical process whose intensity varies over logarithmic timescale and in fact replicates gaussian curve (I just wonder if it affects past time since gaussian curve is known to have infinite span).

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #467 on: May 22, 2008, 06:49:10 PM »
Just another observation about the 60KW unit photo:

The toroids appear to each sit on an aluminium 90deg bracket. There is no bracket above each toroid, just one bracket below each one.
Each toroid has a standard steel toroid endcap on the top, none on the bottom.
Each toroid has rigid PVC spacers next to upper and lower winding faces to prevent shorts against brackets or plates.

QED: There must be a tensile component, probably long pop rivet that joins the lower aluminium bracket to the top steel plate.

The question is by Juans calculations what volume of carbon must sit inside each toroid to give 6KW per toroid output and could that carbon fit betwix the pop rivet and the toroid wall?

By the way I think 6KW at 380V (~16A) is doable in each toroid pictured, just!

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #468 on: May 22, 2008, 06:57:20 PM »
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I think you may be better served by a picture than schematics, but maybe tonight we will get some pics... I will tell you my understanding.   Dead 12V battery with 6V measured on terminals running into small inverter at ~35khz, then into neon sign transformer, then into HV capacitor in series then discharged into the magnetically biased carbon rod.  Output flux is collected on toroidal transformer with the two output windings connected in parallel. This is then full-wave rectified, and hooked back up to the inverter.  Battery charges.  Battery is disconnected. Circuit keeps running , voltage climbs.  Geiger counter screeches, though this may be from the neon EMI rather than beta. Correct me if i left something out UncleFester.

I think you made some good points I would like to comment on ;D
1)"Battery is disconnected. Circuit keeps running , voltage climbs."----- Here we could say that energy is generated somehow OR since the output is driving the input-- if the voltage rise per cycle is higher than the voltage drop(resistance) per cycle then the operation would be continuous until the qualities of the current could no longer produce the desired effects or the physical limitations of the circuit were exceeded.
2)"Geiger counter screeches, though this may be from the neon EMI rather than beta"-----
I think many times we can measure effects but we never know nor see the true nature of what is producing these effects. The geiger tube is essentially a neon tube with a central electrode or ionizing tube, I think the fact that some electronics were fried and the geiger counter screeching could also mean that a very short duration impulse that was electrostatic, magnetic or both in nature could be the cause. Tesla once said he could induce hundreds of thousands of volts into nearby free floating short conductors (not attached to anything) and we may be seeing just such effects---which also cause ionization as well.

I built a small model of this generator last night and found it to be very intersesting, especially the fact that a 24v DC input to the ends of the carbon rod produced continuous arcing and a 40v output on the collector coil surrounding the carbon rod(no toroid yet). The output was a clean sine wave at near 800KHz which I found quite unbelievable, so there is a voltage rise but this is not an energy gain so more testing will have to be done tonight.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #469 on: May 22, 2008, 06:59:04 PM »
One important thing to note during experimenting and beta detection is relative humidity of air. If humidity is low everything around collects a lot of static electricity which is easier converted into beta electrons. If air is humid, beta may not even manifest at all since no much surplus charge is available around lab equipment. It can be useful to engage some air ionizer that produces positive air ions in large quantities so that carbon rod pulses can accelerate something.

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Offline Yucca

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #470 on: May 22, 2008, 07:10:20 PM »
JLN has these "gaussian" pulses (http://jlnlabs.online.fr/vsg/vsg41.htm). If you convert timeline into log scale you'll see it. In fact, it's the "kick" we are probably looking for. Note that Dirac delta function is also modeled via gaussian curve. So, there some correlation available between transient time and power and the output. Among local experimenters only Otto was able to achieve these gaussian pulses on his o-scope.

It may sound a bit "sci fi", but I think these gaussian curves have something to do with space-time curvature. Otherwise it's pretty hard to envision natural physical process whose intensity varies over logarithmic timescale and in fact replicates gaussian curve (I just wonder if it affects past time since gaussian curve is known to have infinite span).

Gaussian pulses are very natural,  a photon has a gaussian energy envelope. Any other shaped pulses tend to get 'filtered' by nature to become gaussian. If you drop 1000 steel balls through a branching pin cascade (like you get in physics classes) then the distribution at the bottom will be gaussian. The reason beta pulses are perceived as gaussian is because a few orbits drop early, a few orbits drop late but most drop somewhere at the avg time, the whole distribution, just like the pin cascade is gaussian. I think you're right, dimples in spacetime would be gaussian too.

I haven't observed any 20ms delayed gaussians yet in my test fires but I Iwon't give up just yet! :)

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #471 on: May 22, 2008, 07:12:17 PM »

The question is by Juans calculations what volume of carbon must sit inside each toroid to give 6KW per toroid output and could that carbon fit betwix the pop rivet and the toroid wall?


They should be 6mm X 60mm or roughly 1/4" x 2 3/8"


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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #472 on: May 22, 2008, 07:18:35 PM »
The reason beta pulses are perceived as gaussian is because a few orbits drop early, a few orbits drop late but most drop somewhere at the avg time, the whole distribution, just like the pin cascade is gaussian. I think you're right, dimples in spacetime would be gaussian too.
You do not get me fully. It is a gaussian curve in logarithmic time scale. It's very different to energy spectrum - we have a lot of gaussian curves there, of course. It's logarithmic time scale! I can't justify it being log scale, because it means some betas accelerated earier, some accelerated later, in log time base. If it was an exp rise with exp decay it would be a different story, but it's clearly a smooth gaussian curve. Can anybody help maybe?

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #473 on: May 22, 2008, 07:28:12 PM »
They should be 6mm X 60mm or roughly 1/4" x 2 3/8"
Sounds like battery carbon rods? :)

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #474 on: May 22, 2008, 07:39:49 PM »
@Yucca
Nice analysis of the 60kw setup. Too bad about the graphite.

@allcanadian
Try doubling or tripling that voltage and use the formulas that Dave posted to calculate capacitance.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #475 on: May 22, 2008, 07:44:38 PM »
Sounds like battery carbon rods? :)
Yes I have taken from a pile coal a zinc bar Dia 8 mm and 57 mm
long and will soon begin experiments.
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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #476 on: May 22, 2008, 07:48:20 PM »
What we need to do is wrap the godforsaken contraption in photographic paper and send half a dozen pulses through it.

Feynman - got your paper yet?

Also, I am still questioning the toroid arrangement in the "box" photo above.

The "end cap" on each toroid is pressed out of aluminum. The oxide layer on the surface seems to be consistent with aluminum alloys. Steel would not be so shiny at the edges, nor does it form a smooth, matte oxide layer unless heat treated. The color is wrong for heat treated steel.

Blacksmith says: Aluminum.
Blacksmith says: Will forge for food.

the gray boxes to the lower left appear to be industrial rail mount contact relays.

Electrician says: Checking the part numbers... they are GE CL04 contactors:
Electrician says: RTFM: http://www.geindustrial.com/catalog/buylog/05_CC.pdf

The larger gray box is a Megatiker MA125, which everyone can read..

Electrician says: thermal circuit breaker.
Electrician says: RTFM: http://www.kashtan.co.il/cd/CD20/Dati/Bticino/PDF/A8731F_GB.pdf

The green circuit boards epoxied to the top of each toroid (yes, that's epoxy) are uncoated. They appear to be hand-cut from FR-4 single layer PCB. In some shots it appears that there is thru etch of some of the contact pads.

Electrical Engineer says: Handmade boards, cut out on band saw. (note the corners of the boards are not consistently square or clipped)

It is possible they were jobbed out, but they were definitely hand soldered, not machine soldered.

Based on the sources for the magnetic thermal circuit breaker (italian company) I do not doubt this unit was built in spain.

Given the size of the breakers and contactors, I do not doubt that this was designed to handle 60KW or more.

The toroids, I have re-estimated their size at approximately 3-4" around, which changes my opinion of the wire gauge. Notice the 12" floor tiles for scale.

This is not an audio crossover, unless someone is using a speaker system big enough for an entire stadium, and running power from one central box to all of them. Not just power, but amplified full power SIGNAL to all of them.

This is not normal usage in my experience with sound equipment.

It would be nice to know what those two boards on the lower right say. I do not have the image editing software required to do advanced filtering and adjustment. If anyone can get readable text off those boards - they are commercial, with silkscreen over a WHITE PC board. Handmade boards are going to be green or tan (FR4 or Phenolic). Honeywell uses alot of tan colored circuit boards, but so do some Chinese manufacturers i've run into - namely chicago electric.

I am also having a hard time figuring out the electrical connection to the carbon rod. It would make sense to ground the end of the rod to the plate, but I really don't see how a carbon rod is inside each of those toroids, in the same usage as ours.

Like everything I've seen, it's half fishy, half credible.

I know someone that knows the fellow who runs nuenergy.com. We are attempting at this time to contact him and find out what he knows of this Juan fellow.

If need be, we can pay him a visit.

I have friends everywhere.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #477 on: May 22, 2008, 07:49:36 PM »
Oil Brent is $131.7 today... I guess OU researches will see a money waterfall soon, even if they do not give a shit about OU. Economies will surely have to do something or they'll vanish. Existence is priceless. ;)

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #478 on: May 22, 2008, 07:55:05 PM »
@allcanadian

Juan says reaction only will begin at around 37V .  As you increase voltage, you require less capacitance. You want your optimum input pulse to be 109-100Joules.

case/capacity (uF)/Voltage
1   1521200   12
2   380300   24
3   87620   50
4   21920   100
5   9740   150
6   2280   311
7   760   540

These numbers are for a 60mm x 6mm carbon rod.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #479 on: May 22, 2008, 07:57:48 PM »
You want your optimum input pulse to be 109-100Joules.
Finally somebody considers Joules per pulse. :) That's great!

 

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