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Author Topic: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions  (Read 371692 times)

Offline Reiyuki

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #840 on: August 15, 2008, 09:33:28 AM »
Mike, interesting transformer theory.  Never completely understood the whole saturation thing.
      Couple questions left:
 - Have you tried testing loads on your setup yet?  Maybe a 60w Incandescent through a power transformer or something, just to see some raw output.  I wonder if an OU in your setup is workable given that the tiny gap is where all the action is rather than the whole rod.  I'm also curious to find out what kind of voltage+current levels a small transformer might give you compared to UncleFester.
(With UncleFester's old setups generating almost a kilovolt, a low-turn transformer might be a good idea.)

 - Were your pulse results AC or DC?  And if DC, was it dependent on B-Field polarity?
      (It would be strange to get AC pulses when it is biased with DC current, ya?)


As for my experiment coming up (Tesla style one), I'm not too concerned about runaway.  I figure, if I can actually smoke a 300w toroid with pulses coming from a 100w supply, the 25$ transformer is an 'acceptable loss'.
  'Slightly mad science' for sure, but it's still cheaper than an Oscilloscope or IGBT.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #841 on: August 15, 2008, 06:32:44 PM »
     The plazma condensation in the spark gap formed by the two carbon electrodes is going to convey it's eminformation through the carbon dielectric field and result in a non-radiant magnetic signature.  Unlike metal electrodes whose magnetic polarization effects the spark gap plazma frequency,  the carbon will convey the plazma information of the spark gap as change in resistance to the flow of energy density information. This directly effects the energy flow from the scource to the gap.  The gap forms a plazma field which becomes superconducting which "heats" the carbon whose resistance is lowered which condenses more plazma etc.  Lots of energy information from the scource heading for the gap real fast.  This is great if you are after a fusion process but not so good for regular em energy transfer.   The metal coating of the carbon results in formation of a junction zone not unlike a mosfet.  The energy density information (or intrinsic voltage) of the carbon field now able to effect a metal mass field.  The metal mass issues a unique polarization of the ambient energy field or magnetic flux signature.
This magnetic field now effects the scource to gap energy information flow and hf oscillation within the carbon field and the spark gap are initiated.  As this oscillation increases to energy levels of higher and higher amplitude and frequency something is gonna give.  Radioactive decay of the mass field? 

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #842 on: August 15, 2008, 11:07:12 PM »
@mikewatson
I don't know why no one else has mentioned this point, at least I don't remember reading it.
But making an air gap in a toroid sounds very useful in another way.
A toroid could be cut completely in half to get 2 air gaps.
Then each half could be wound to whatever number of turns one wants.
This would make it much easier to wind a toroid then trying to pass the wire through
the center each time.
Does it mater if there are 2 air gaps 180 deg. apart?


2 airgaps are perfectly acceptable and do not make any significant difference. They should be kept small though, say of the order of a millimeter each.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #843 on: August 16, 2008, 10:17:12 AM »
Quote
don't know why no one else has mentioned this point, at least I don't remember reading it.
But making an air gap in a toroid sounds very useful in another way.
A toroid could be cut completely in half to get 2 air gaps.
Then each half could be wound to whatever number of turns one wants.
This would make it much easier to wind a toroid then trying to pass the wire through
the center each time.
Does it mater if there are 2 air gaps 180 deg. apart?


Reiyuki,

All my tests are DC single pulses of defined energy. I am trying to establish whether there is anything in the VSG idea and even if not is there any unaccounted for extra energy. There does seem to be some extra energy produced, not as much as Naudin claimed, but because of the current transformer hassle I cannot trust his results at present.
I do not know whether Naudin reset his current transformer, I have not seen any mention of it in his write-up. I could kick myself for not seeing the necessity for current transformer reset sooner, my excuse is that I was lulled into a sense of false secuity by Naudin's report taking it at face value and not looking at it  critically. Most of my previous tests are  generally still valid ( luckily) with the exception of current flow values calculated from the current transformer ratio, nevertheless they will have to be done again.

Without a load the ouput of a current transformer can reach kilovolts. If you have 1 turn primary with say 100 volts from the capacitors and the secondary of the current transformer has 500 turns then the voltage there is 50,000 volts with no load.  Of course the insulation breaks down. 

Regarding the use of AC, yes it should should work. If all this is right you should get current gain from an AC carbon arc. Like I mentioned before a carbon arc has negative resistance which was used to excite tuned circuits 80 years ago, the negative resistance keeping the circuit oscillating. DC power was supplied of course but the negative resistance of the carbon arc maintained the (RF) oscillation. If the arc were OU then it should maintain oscillation without any input power.

Mike

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #844 on: August 16, 2008, 10:40:23 AM »
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     The plazma condensation in the spark gap formed by the two carbon electrodes is going to convey it's eminformation through the carbon dielectric field and result in a non-radiant magnetic signature.  Unlike metal electrodes whose magnetic polarization effects the spark gap plazma frequency,  the carbon will convey the plazma information of the spark gap as change in resistance to the flow of energy density information. This directly effects the energy flow from the scource to the gap.  The gap forms a plazma field which becomes superconducting which "heats" the carbon whose resistance is lowered which condenses more plazma etc.  Lots of energy information from the scource heading for the gap real fast.  This is great if you are after a fusion process but not so good for regular em energy transfer.   The metal coating of the carbon results in formation of a junction zone not unlike a mosfet.  The energy density information (or intrinsic voltage) of the carbon field now able to effect a metal mass field.  The metal mass issues a unique polarization of the ambient energy field or magnetic flux signature.
This magnetic field now effects the scource to gap energy information flow and hf oscillation within the carbon field and the spark gap are initiated.  As this oscillation increases to energy levels of higher and higher amplitude and frequency something is gonna give.  Radioactive decay of the mass field? 

Sparks,
I accept that information in some form is being transmitted into the carbon from the spark. The spark certainly shows negative resistance but I have no evidence for superconductivity, this does not mean it is not so only I have no evidence for it.
The reverse or extra energy effect which I have seen (if it turns out to be real and not due to some unforseen circuit quirk) works with two carbons and no metal-carbon junction, nevertheless, certainly the energy density in the carbon arc is huge. I am reminded of Joe Champion's claims of being able to produce nuclear transformations with a carbon arc, also if I remember correctly Prof. Bockriss did something similar which of course went down like a lead balloon in the academic world. There is a lot to be discovered in this area, it seems to me from Champion, Bockriss and also Kervan's bilogical transmutation and also from these carbon experiments, that nature has another method of producing nuclear transformations conserving the energy internally without the dangerous radiation seen in conventional nuclear reactions. It seems to me  this conservation process must involve some sort of information transfer.

Mike

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #845 on: August 17, 2008, 08:11:56 PM »
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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #846 on: August 17, 2008, 11:24:39 PM »
  I am going to try a piece of carbon from an electric motor brush and machine it down into a dipolar configuration.
Then put it in the microwave and electrically stimulate the entire carbon mass.  Then monitor what goes on in the pinch zone of the carbon. 

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #847 on: August 18, 2008, 02:41:59 AM »
Well putting a carbon rod into the microwave should give you some sparks.  :)
If there was a way of getting a magnetic field into the rod it may give interesting results.
I wonder if they make a magnet that doesn't conduct electricity, so it could be placed in a microwave.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #848 on: August 18, 2008, 05:30:48 AM »
@AbbaRue

       I am going to try to control the power level to keep the sparks down. :)
  Could always put the carbon inside an evacuated tube,  hmmmmm this experiment is starting to sound like an ancient lightbulb.  If I can get a coil around the dipole mass and lead her out of the microwave should get some interesting wave forms.  Clean burning of coal comes to mind.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #849 on: August 18, 2008, 06:11:26 AM »
Many microwaves come with a temperature probe that plug into the side of the microwave.
If you are using an old microwave that you won't need for cooking you could modify it to use the
probe plug as a means of connecting to the outside world.
Then something similar to a temperature probe could be used to send power in to power a magnet.
Or to collect power output from the carbon rod.
I think the probe works by shielding the outside of the cable, and the shielding is grounded to the microwave case.
I think that as long as any metal objects inside the microwave are at the same potential as the case
they won't interfere with the microwaves.
Only objects that are floating separately from the case will arc.
At least I think that's how it works anyway, I haven't checked it out to make sure.


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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #850 on: August 18, 2008, 11:28:09 AM »
Has anyone managed to repeat Naudin's original experiment with carbon and thoriated tungsten? As reported I got something in my attempts but very much less than Naudin. I vaguely recall that someone on this thread said they had repeated it. Was it "Uncle Fester" or "Feynman" or someone else? Otherwise it means trawling through over 860 messages.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #851 on: August 18, 2008, 04:34:52 PM »
    The sparks in a microwave arize from conversion of a non-ionizing wavelength absorbed into a metal lattice and retransmitted at an ionizing wavelength.  This ionizes the nitrogen inside the cavity and a plazma string evolves.   This plazma string now has a life of it's own.  You got yourself a lightning bolt.  I'm not sure if this is going to happen with carbon. My wife won't let me put anything but food in the microwave after she saw the ball lightning from the grapes I put in there.  Heading for a flea market to pickmeup a junk one.  Seems a copper coil should be able to be wrapped around the carbon as long as attention is paid to the dielectric field relative to the copper coil geometry.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #852 on: August 18, 2008, 10:45:33 PM »
Well, was playing with my setup over the weekend.  Here's the runthrough:

 - Power Supply
12kv 30ma NST (360watt)
 - Capacitor Bank
0.0143 ?F capacitor @ 12kv (2kv .1uf   x7 series)
 - Carbon rod
.25 dia carbon rod, 6" long  (.995 pure)
 - B-field
Neodmium magnet and 9v battery biasing toroid windings
 - Toroidal Transformer
 http://www.allelectronics.com/make-a-store/item/TTX-7812/TOROIDAL-TRANSFORMER-7.8VAC/6.3A-25.2VCT/2.2A/1.html
  Input: 100/120/240 Vac 50/60 Hz. Output: 7.8Vac @ 6.3A, 12.6Vac @ 1.1A, 12.6Vac @ 1.1A3.5" diameter x 1.38".



Summary:  Setup was in such a way that a spark gap triggered and dumped all the energy through the carbon when reaching ~12kv.
  Made a lot of noise and ozone, but no usable power.

Details:
  Measurement was limited with a lack of oscilloscope, but was able to estimate voltages by using a bridge rectifier and cap through to a meter.
  Power through the 120v line on the toroid broke 1kv at less than a milliamp (barely lights an LED).
  Using a large stepdown for measurement, voltage was down to ~350v with no real power.
  Was getting high voltage through all the transformer windings at very low power.  Probably acting as a flyback or something.
  Did try a small self-run for the hell of it.  120v windings from toroid phased into 120v input on NST.  AC power initialized for .5sec.  No smoke, but no power either.

Conclusion
The joules-per-pulse on the capacitors is likely way too low.  This HV setup will be scrapped in preparation for the next version, a 300v setup with some big bertha capacitors.

  - Reiyuki

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #853 on: August 22, 2008, 08:03:24 PM »
I found the following subject on this forum closely related to what we are trying to achieve here:
http://www.overunity.com/index.php/topic,2827.msg122875/topicseen.html#msg122875

The patent they are speaking of can be found here:
http://free-energy-info.co.uk/PatD13.pdf

Download the patent info and perhaps it's principles can be applied to the carbon rod.
Maybe we should be grinding the carbon rods into powder and making a similar unit.

We just need to find the right frequency for carbon.
Unless 300MHz will work for carbon as well.


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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #854 on: August 30, 2008, 10:15:15 PM »
@eldarion
I think the answer has been given.
Most of the beta is absorbed by the carbon and transformed into another form of energy.
Some will be EMP, some as heat.
Only a small portion of the beta from near the surface of the rod escapes the rod.
In fact the EMP produced from the beta colliding with the carbon atoms is probably what we want to harness.
This is the purpose of the B field, to align the EMP inside the rod.
Without the B field the EMP would move in random directions and be lost as heat.
The term Colliding used above may not be the right term, it's only used to illustrate the point.
How the beta is transformed into EMP is unknown.

So no rebuttal is required.



How about : beta is abruptly stopped but not magnetic field, EMP is produced, pure magnetic wave ?

 

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