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Author Topic: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions  (Read 401292 times)

Offline Walter Hofmann

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #630 on: May 26, 2008, 11:44:40 AM »
Hi BEP,
I drill graphite rods all the time I use my lathe and masonry concrete drill bits they work excellent. I make graphite cylinder for my experimentel cells in sizes of 1/4 inch all the way up to 1 1/2 inch.
without a lathe is very complicated when not even impossible to hold the center.
greetings
walt

@Inventor81

Your 'B' is the only way I do it. I typically use solid copper for the loop so it can be formed into a rectangle. The reason is I continue to believe these devices either use or should use the rotational attributes of a homopolar device (along with the mag field, of course).
The root of this belief was a simple experiment with a small plastic cup setting on top of a coin shaped magnet. Put a saltwater solution in the cup and sprinkle a little pepper for visuals. Insert + and - wires. One in the center and one at the edge of the water. The water rotates.

I know you would already know this but I added detail for others.

The point is: the current flow needed to be between the center and the radial edge within the mag field to obtain rotation. I'm quite sure there are a lot of things going on. One of which may be rotation.

@All

This is probably the best thread to ask.... When cutting or drilling graphite, is there common tooling? If so what is it? I need to drill an axial center hole in a small graphite rod. Carbide bits chunk the material. Diamond Dremmel bits dull too quickly.

Thanks,

John
 

Offline UncleFester

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #631 on: May 26, 2008, 06:21:30 PM »
This site also uses Carbon Rods & Radioactive Tungsten Rods, and he has both photos & Schematics.  I am wondering if we can use anything here to help us out?


http://www.intalek.com/Index/Projects/SparkGapExp/SparkGapExp.htm
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Not really. I was over there this weekend and it's just a spark gap setup with Th loaded rods. We don't need spark gaps, nor do we want them. Only missing thing is the different types of carbon. There might be less pure types that work better.


Offline UncleFester

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #632 on: May 26, 2008, 06:31:55 PM »
All,

I have experienced a second meltdown today. This leads me to believe that the first one wasn't an accident or connections error. However,  the reaction only takes place randomly and rarely. When it does, the results are devastating. The output heat and electricity are excessive. I am beginning to suspect we may not be able to control easily this reaction for continuous operation.

To the experimenters, if your system doesn't output enough heat and electricity to melt 16 to 18 gage wire, you haven't seen the reaction yet. Keep working at it. In the meantime, don't leave that thing unattended for even one second. It may energize out of control in no time. I am also beginning to suspect that might be the reason JLN didn't follow through with this research. Sustain operation requires extreme control that may not be disposal to the home experimenter.

A third meltdown might spell the end of the road for me. I hope we can find a simple system control before it happens. In the meantime, think about this for a moment: what if the output energy comes mostly in the form heat as opposed to the high EM output that we are currently focusing on?

Thanks,

Miki.

Did you follow the energy formula for input capacity? I am running 6awg wire and don't seem to have a problem with anything except the rod itself heating. All I do is turn the duty cycle down and it's no longer an issue. What load is on the collector? My setup slowly ramps up and seems fairly stable so far. I wonder about your setup anbd how we might cure this issue. There has to be a way for your setup to run stable.

Offline Inventor81

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #633 on: May 26, 2008, 11:05:15 PM »
Has anyone confirmed that the beta detectors are giving false readings? A good test would be to wave a strong magnet back and forth near the beta detector and see if it gives any beta counts (it shouldn't).

The basic idea is that at the flux levels required to recoup your input energy, you would kill yourself within 30 minutes.

You WOULD experience physiological effects after a few tens of seconds - and even after a second or two, you would have sunburn-like injuries to the skin exposed to the device.

Thus, it is not the beta which is providing the "overunity".

Also, you cannot move a magnet fast enough to create the kind of voltage spikes encountered when the device "ran away". The device could be set up with a copper slug in place of the carbon rod, and run at full tilt with the meter nearby. Thus, the device would be operating as normal, with the only change being the carbon/copper swap. Thus, electrically, it would be virtually identical to the original circuit. I have a feeling that it's merely an EMP device, since it fried several computer components nearby.

Offline xee

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #634 on: May 27, 2008, 12:19:40 AM »
@Inventor81,
Thanks for the reply. Does that mean you think the meters are not even any good for detecting low levels of beta rays when they are used in changing strong magnetic fields? It seems that you think there never were any beta rays at all, just false readings due to magnetic fields. Is that a correct reading of what you are saying?

Offline Koen1

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #635 on: May 27, 2008, 10:38:19 AM »
The basic idea is that at the flux levels required to recoup your input energy, you would kill yourself within 30 minutes.
The basic idea is also that it is an over unity process and that is impossible according to just about any established physicist.
So I am not certain how much you can say with certainty about a pocess that does not follow the assumed standard "rules",
flips energy conservation the bird, and gives us out significantly more than we put in...
;)


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You WOULD experience physiological effects after a few tens of seconds - and even after a second or two, you would have sunburn-like injuries to the skin exposed to the device.

Thus, it is not the beta which is providing the "overunity".
Or so we hope to be able to assume on the basis of known processes that do not
produce OU. ;)

Offline twosox

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #636 on: May 27, 2008, 12:10:01 PM »
@AbbaRue

any joy on locating a suitable circuit diagram ? there is one in the pdf file that Stefan posted from juan, but is
it a 'single shot' or continuous operation circuit? dunno. i'm twiddling my thumbs now waiting for parts.

Offline leo48

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #637 on: May 27, 2008, 01:42:17 PM »
@Stefan
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I removed the email addresses from this guy Juan,
cause he was running scams lately...

So I don?t know how valid these informations are.

Regards, Stefan.
How post my MP
tanks you
leo48

Offline leo48

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #638 on: May 27, 2008, 03:21:27 PM »
Hi all
I did a test:
(http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/1451/picture135ll0.png)
and this is the result:
(http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/2452/picture134df2.png)
bar coal is diameter 4 mm and 25 mm long and sending
impulses from 20V.
The upper line is the input
the bottom is the toroid
leo48

Offline allcanadian

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #639 on: May 27, 2008, 04:04:42 PM »
@Xee
 
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Does that mean you think the meters are not even any good for detecting low levels of beta rays when they are used in changing strong magnetic fields? It seems that you think there never were any beta rays at all, just false readings due to magnetic fields. Is that a correct reading of what you are saying?
I think the misconception may be the type of fields generated, the beta detector uses ionization to detect radiation so magnetic fields could have little effect on it, but if we are talking about an electrostatic impulse or wave having a high frequency then the detector would see this as radiation as it produces ionization on "any" conductor including the geiger tube.

@inventor81
I think we are on the same page, I have been doing tests with a "copper" conductor/rod as well. It's funny how everything comes back to one person ---- Tesla ;)

Offline Koen1

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #640 on: May 27, 2008, 04:22:46 PM »
Dudes, it seems the thread is getting increasingly vague.

What we had was a fairly clear setup and claimed over unity in the circuit.
And we had what seemed to be the theory behind it, which suggests beta.

Now there is a lot of confusion about the beta, and a lot of talk of EMI.
Could be EMI. Fine with me.

But the main thing was OU in the circuit. Whether the OU is produced by abnormal
beta emissions, or by peculiar EMI, matters not one iota as long as we have OU
in the circuit.
Hell, the OU can be produced by leprechauns on acid for all I care! ;)
As long as it's there, in the circuit, and we can really use the energy,
I don't really care where it's from.

More important is: who is now still getting OU readings, and what exactly is their setup?
Forget the Geiger counters and the beta readings. If they're there, well, cool, but
if they're not well no loss.
As long as we get more out than in and can make that system run off its own power,
and still have a little bit left over as real free excess energy, then the game is on.

So can we please once and for all very clearly get a hands up on who's actually
got a circuit that self-powers or at least shows more output than input?
And can we then please keep the descriptions of these circuits clear and precise?

Thanks. ;)

Offline ramset

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #641 on: May 27, 2008, 04:31:00 PM »
FEYNMAN    How's things??  Chet

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #642 on: May 27, 2008, 05:11:48 PM »
Dudes, it seems the thread is getting increasingly vague.

What we had was a fairly clear setup and claimed over unity in the circuit.
And we had what seemed to be the theory behind it, which suggests beta.

Now there is a lot of confusion about the beta, and a lot of talk of EMI.
Could be EMI. Fine with me.

But the main thing was OU in the circuit. Whether the OU is produced by abnormal
beta emissions, or by peculiar EMI, matters not one iota as long as we have OU
in the circuit.
Hell, the OU can be produced by leprechauns on acid for all I care! ;)
As long as it's there, in the circuit, and we can really use the energy,
I don't really care where it's from.

More important is: who is now still getting OU readings, and what exactly is their setup?
Forget the Geiger counters and the beta readings. If they're there, well, cool, but
if they're not well no loss.
As long as we get more out than in and can make that system run off its own power,
and still have a little bit left over as real free excess energy, then the game is on.

So can we please once and for all very clearly get a hands up on who's actually
got a circuit that self-powers or at least shows more output than input?
And can we then please keep the descriptions of these circuits clear and precise?

Thanks. ;)

So far it seems that Allcanadian and Uncle Fester are the only ones here who have experienced the runaway effect.  They are also the ones who seem to be chasing the OU effect instead of fighting over apples and radioactive oranges.   It would be nice to get some detailed schematics & pics of their test setups, but I'm not complaining because I don't have the time and resources to do any tests myself.  Hopefully they will post more details as they get a better handle on what setup produces the better results.  In the meantime I'm wishing them good luck and I hope this turns out to be what we all hope it is.

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #643 on: May 27, 2008, 05:18:28 PM »

What we had was a fairly clear setup and claimed over unity in the circuit.



are you sure ?
 
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And we had what seemed to be the theory behind it, which suggests beta.


are you sure ?

Offline tagor

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Re: Single circuits generate nuclear reactions
« Reply #644 on: May 27, 2008, 05:41:51 PM »
 It would be nice to get some detailed schematics & pics of their test setups, but I'm not complaining because

Yes it would be very very very nice