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oilpiggy

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Friction heater running in my house
« on: October 31, 2012, 07:25:24 PM »
This friction heater I have built costs me around 5 cents a hour to run @ 14 cents a kilowatt. The inside temp of my house is at 70F  day and night, the out side is around 30F to 10F. That would be a delta T between 40F and 60F. My house is around 1250 sq. ft.   
Here is my youtube Chanel where I post my videos on it.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RQjPSsIWDvg&feature=plcp

norman6538

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Re: Friction heater running in my house
« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2012, 09:25:04 PM »
Did you make this from scratch or did you have plans?
Norman

gotoluc

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Re: Friction heater running in my house
« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2012, 09:52:50 PM »
Hi oilpiggy,

thanks for sharing your friction heater build.
It looks very well built and you have some very impressive results. I have a friend who built one a few years ago but does not seem to have as good of results you have.

I'll send him the link to your topic and maybe you can give him some pointers on modifications he can make to get better results. His name is Rick. We both live in Canada and were involve in the build using Rick's machine shop setup in his garage.
Rick's rotor has about 12 of 8" perforated steel disk that he pressed a wave pattern in the disk to create more friction. He filled it with ATF but the motor could not turn it for long before the motors thermal switch would kick in. So he tried it with Diesel and had better results but the heat output did not seem so good compared to the watts the motor was burning.

Anyways, it would be great if you can help out

Thanks for sharing your very well done video demo

Luc


oilpiggy

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Re: Friction heater running in my house
« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2012, 10:15:05 PM »
Hi, and thank you I am a Machinist by trade so that helped in this build and have years of R and D work under the belt.
Sure anytime just send me an email at yardwarrior@hotmail.com Subject  "Friction heater"
It sounds like from what you just told me he is looking at the thing all wrong. Have him look up K-Factor in water terms or some reading on Victor Schauberger.
Still feel free to hit me up I would be more then helpful in your build.

oilpiggy

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Re: Friction heater running in my house
« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2012, 10:20:21 PM »
Did you make this from scratch or did you have plans?
Norman

I made this from scratch with allot of reading.

gotoluc

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Re: Friction heater running in my house
« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2012, 10:22:33 PM »
Hi, and thank you I am a Machinist by trade so that helped in this build and have years of R and D work under the belt.
Sure anytime just send me an email at yardwarrior@hotmail.com Subject  "Friction heater"
It sounds like from what you just told me he is looking at the thing all wrong. Have him look up K-Factor in water terms or some reading on Victor Schauberger.
Still feel free to hit me up I would be more then helpful in your build.

Thanks for the quick reply,

I've emailed Rick the link to this topic and your video demo. I'm sure he will be contacting you soon

Thanks for your offer to help.

Luc

Pirate88179

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Re: Friction heater running in my house
« Reply #6 on: November 01, 2012, 05:52:11 AM »
Very well done and well explained.  I would love to see the plans, if any, for what is inside your cylinder.  That is so very compact and you are getting good heat with just convection.  I hope that you sell these and make a lot of money.  Great work.

Bill

oilpiggy

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Re: Friction heater running in my house
« Reply #7 on: November 02, 2012, 01:15:32 AM »
Thank you Bill
This is heating on an Atomic level with no cavitation and no parts getting eaten away from the proses.
I am waiting for my patent to go through the I will be making the plans available for the people who would like to build them for there homes.
I should here from them soon. There will be 4 different styles to chose from depending on your needs.

ZathEros

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Re: Friction heater running in my house
« Reply #8 on: November 02, 2012, 05:25:59 AM »
Patent?
Prior art already exists on this and is in public domain.


AlanA

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Re: Friction heater running in my house
« Reply #9 on: November 02, 2012, 11:49:08 AM »
Hi Oilpiggy,
what an appropriate nickname in view of your invention  ;) .
I have seen all you youtube videos. There you have written that you have modified other friction heaters. I know the Frenette heater also. The only difference to you invention is that Frenette use a rotation cylinder inside of his heater. You use discs with different diameter. I am right? Are there other differences (in the principle).
Greetings  :)

Doug1

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Re: Friction heater running in my house
« Reply #10 on: November 02, 2012, 12:10:24 PM »
 Patents can be design spicific he made enough improvements to get one through. Hopefully he didnt give up everything in his video or the chineese will have them already loaded on cargo containers ready to ship by now.
  Last time I tried to make a friction heater it didnt put out as well as I wanted it to so I dropped it. If I ever go back to the drawing board it wont be based on liquid friction. Magnetic induction is a lot less messy.
  It's a nice build you did a good job. I think you could market them easy enough if you scale them to fit an RV or a long hual semi tractor trailer since they are expanding the no idle laws every year. Commercial and recreational markets have a higher margin then residential markets. Good way to get your feet wet without drowning right out of the gate.

ramset

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Re: Friction heater running in my house
« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2012, 12:22:57 PM »
OP
I hope you didn't use the Atom  word in your patent text?
They have a very big "Atom stick" at the Patent office . [never give a man a stick to beat you with].
 
I also noticed lately they scrutinize things a bit closer than in the past.Prior art Etc. Etc.         {Rossi}
 
We don't really play "patent" here, which i suppose you already know [Forum Title}.
your willingness to share is wonderful !
 
Thx
Chet

MileHigh

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Re: Friction heater running in my house
« Reply #12 on: November 02, 2012, 01:29:26 PM »
Chet,

What happened to your friend's project that was a heater based on passing electrical current through water and using "resonance?"  I am assuming that the film was never made and the whole thing withered on the vine.  Am I correct?

In this case, why should an electrical motor turning some sort of friction device be any more efficient than an electric baseboard heater?  Both devices in the final analysis produce heat power.

You have electrical power going into an electrical motor.  The output from the motor is heat power and mechanical power.  The mechanical power from the motor goes into a cylindrical device that converts the mechanical power into heat power.  Do you see any place in this system for saving on your heating bill?

MileHigh

oilpiggy

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Re: Friction heater running in my house
« Reply #13 on: November 02, 2012, 05:06:47 PM »
Hello everyone
Just need to say this, I did not start this build with the intent to try to make money off of it. My goal was to stop seeing people go with out a very necessary thing like heat.
With that being said I would not mind it someone in China picked this up and ran with it, all that would mean is they could build it cheaper then me and more people would have it. Who knows maybe then you could just go down to walmart and buy one :o Hell I would buy one. ;D
And no I did not use the word Atom but that is what is happening. the molecules of the oils are trying to stay in one spot and this is making them move around making heat.
This concept is not a new one its how it is done is what makes it. I don't think by any means is it "OU" but It is a very cheap way for me to make heat.
I am working on drafting off some of the heat to make power to supply some of the power to make it run even cheaper.

Paul-R

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Re: Friction heater running in my house
« Reply #14 on: November 02, 2012, 05:08:05 PM »
Patent?
Prior art already exists on this and is in public domain.
Yes. You should check prior art thoroughly before spending anything on a patent.

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