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Pirate88179

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #195 on: September 07, 2014, 11:09:57 PM »
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/10967

Fausto:

Above is the link where you can purchase this 1402 break out board for under $6 US.  It contains all of the components required along with the 1402 chip AND, you do not have to try to solder that damn small, tiny chip!  This one takes 1.5 volts input and outputs 3.3 volts and will handle 200 mA's.  So, it is already built and made cheaper than you or I could make one after buying the components.

Why Pirate88179?

A long, long time ago, back when all we had were bulllitin boards (pre-internet) I was known around as Pirate.  Well, after a while other folks began using this and once, when I was trying to sign up to a new board, it told me that name was taken but suggested Pirate88179.  I tried other variations of the name Pirate but it still only kept giving me the choice of pirate88179 so I finally hit "OK" and have been using that ever since.  We are talking late 80's here.  So, as I was well known on that board, I used it for every other board I logged into.  The rest is history...ha ha.

Bill

PS  If you get some of these boards and have any problems wiring them up, let me know and I will gladly help.  (They are not intuitive)
Farmhand (here on O.U.com) helped me so I will be happy to pass it on.

plengo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #196 on: September 08, 2014, 01:59:08 AM »
I am happy to introduce my first real beginnings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_hGvb-8ud8




Fausto.

Pirate88179

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #197 on: September 08, 2014, 02:31:20 AM »
I am happy to introduce my first real beginnings.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_hGvb-8ud8




Fausto.

Very nice work.  Good video.

Bill

4Tesla

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #198 on: September 09, 2014, 10:15:34 PM »
Nice work!  Keep up the great research!

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #199 on: September 10, 2014, 12:43:46 PM »

I agree by now with the patent usefulness or better uselessness.  I am working on the product as we speak. I really wished that the community would work more like a real community. No funds I was able to raise and I think it will never happen.




The cost of making the product is very high since I have to buy all the materials, build it myself and so on. 5 years research drained a lot of my savings already.


I am on my last breath with this tentative of selling this first product.


Fausto.

Hi, just passing by: Have you tried to raise  funds with a kickstarter campagn ?
Even the non credible QEG was able to raise funds...
So if you have a working valuable product you should do it fine.
Cordially.

plengo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #200 on: September 12, 2014, 08:34:10 PM »
Great news today: I replicated my successful cell today. It is not much light BUT it is working as the first one, in other words, it is running perpetually, dry, no water, no air, no nothing, just light out.   ;D


I can tell you, casting with resin and getting the cell to run is VERY DIFFICULT, it will not be easy for others to replicate.


Concerning questions, I am using indigogo (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/crystal-cell-battery-with-10-years-life/x/1876060).


And guys, thank you very much for the support and help. I am still looking, with the help of MarkSCoffman, for a cheaper metal that I need.


Fausto.

plengo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #201 on: September 13, 2014, 09:10:08 PM »
I received some questions about "Where are the crystals?" (after seeing my last video). Well, I did not show the crystals on the metal plates on the video YET. I only showed the plates but not the plates WITH the crystal electrolyte.


So, don't get confused, THIS IS A CRYSTAL CELL.


Attached is close-up of the crystal growing inside a single cell. The Copper metal is .5 millimeters thick and the "other metal" is 2 millimeters thick. I would love to find those TWO METALS no thicker than .1 mm. Anyone?


The interior of the cell where the crystal is is only 1mm thick. It may look bigger now because the crystal expands the structure as it grows. Another thing I will have to fix (reduce that growth) in the future once I have more funds.

Another detail in this picture is that this close-up is from a sealed cell that I had to open (to examine the plates) using a very crude band saw with a blade to cut hard metals. So the whole structure gets really bent, distorted and sometimes broken and also destroys the cell.

Fausto.

plengo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #202 on: September 13, 2014, 09:52:31 PM »
This is a private video for this forum viewers (I ask not to publish on the net) where I show my first successful cell that is sealed with a resin, with no external water or air or ANYTHING. She is running since Jun-10-2014 very well. (Video: http://youtu.be/bvka0OkjGIw)


With time she is getting stronger. No signs of deterioration neither expansion of the container.


This IS A CRYSTAL CELL.


The first picture is based on my formula 186-7 from last year where I was able to create a crystal electrolyte that seals the cell completely and protects the metal. In this picture the metal is Magnesium. To my surprise this metal IS NOT GOOD for this kind of cell although Magnesium is great for more output power. The crystal electrolyte does not work on galvanic process therefore where you would expect greater power output such as the case with Copper/Magnesium cells.


The crystal latter and the water retained are crucial for the functioning of the cell. Another factor is off course internal resistance (which I am currently working on solving and the resin casting). The next SUPER IMPORTANTE factor is the electrostatic properties of water and its electrical/magnetic properties. Water likes "voltage" around it.


Second picture is ONE CELL metal plates (two metals) with its separator where it holds the electrolyte and also separates one CELL from the next stacked CELL.


Third picture is my electrolyte dust inside the cup where I apply to the cells. It is super dry.


Fourth picture is the graph of a cell using "coca-cola" can metal. One CELL only. It is inside the resin and it is only showing 5 mili-volts under a 100 ohm resistor. Yes, Yes, I know, only 5 mili-volts Fausto? ??? Yes, but consider that the WHOLE ONE CELL is only .2 millimeters thick. Imagine 100 of those together?


Observe also what is really important. Do you see the erratic voltage (and current because of the 100 ohm resistor) fluctuation? It goes up and down, steady and erratic. This cell is running for more than a week with this constant behavior and always around 5 mili-volts, sometimes goes to 1 and other times to 12 but always around 5 mili-volts. It is very sensitive to day and night. Not sensitive to vibration or temperature changes of the environment.


I claim that this one cell WILL NEVER DIE. How I know that? simply because there is no water or corrosion inside it. It is purely on the crystal power. Btw, coca-cola can metal is not very good for this kind of cell (may be in the future) but it is dirty cheap to get.






Fausto.
« Last Edit: September 14, 2014, 11:09:53 PM by plengo »

Pirate88179

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #203 on: September 14, 2014, 10:58:46 PM »
Fausto:

Excellent work there and I wish you the best.  I agree with you that this could really be a great step forward.  I hope you can raise the funds needed to complete your research.

Best of luck to you.

Bill

plengo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #204 on: September 16, 2014, 09:58:47 PM »
One thing I forgot to mention, although it should be observable, is that the picture of my last post of the crystal growing INSIDE the cell shows NO CORROSION.


Observe carefully the white crystal GLUED to the top plate (shinnying silver) where the crystal "merges" inside the metal. Pay close attention.


This is of fundamental importance in explaining the NO CORROSION process. The crystal is integrating with the metal at a very minute detail level where its function integrates well with the metal.


The metalS are the voltage source and the water is the current source.

Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #205 on: September 25, 2014, 03:35:24 AM »
Hi Fausto,

I've been doing research and I found these waterproof enclosures.. they might make things easier for you than cutting the resin to examine the cells.

Search "clear project box" on ebay.. here is one I might use.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/85x58x33mm-Waterproof-Cover-Clear-Plastic-Electronic-Project-Box-Enclosure-CASE-/281390875149?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item418434020d

Keep up your great work.. I just finished watching your latest youtube video.

Pirate88179

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #206 on: September 25, 2014, 05:32:28 AM »
Hi Fausto,

I've been doing research and I found these waterproof enclosures.. they might make things easier for you than cutting the resin to examine the cells.

Search "clear project box" on ebay.. here is one I might use.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/85x58x33mm-Waterproof-Cover-Clear-Plastic-Electronic-Project-Box-Enclosure-CASE-/281390875149?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item418434020d

Keep up your great work.. I just finished watching your latest youtube video.

Thanks for the link.  I think I might be able to use these on my latest project.

Bill

plengo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #207 on: September 25, 2014, 04:56:56 PM »
Hi Fausto,

I've been doing research and I found these waterproof enclosures.. they might make things easier for you than cutting the resin to examine the cells.

Search "clear project box" on ebay.. here is one I might use.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/85x58x33mm-Waterproof-Cover-Clear-Plastic-Electronic-Project-Box-Enclosure-CASE-/281390875149?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item418434020d

Keep up your great work.. I just finished watching your latest youtube video.


Great. Thank you. I will give it a try. Great find.

Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #208 on: September 26, 2014, 11:27:53 PM »
Hi every one: I am new to posting but not new to the field.  I have been working on my own crystal cells for more than 4 years and a year ago I dropped the research because of the same results as others,  short life span. The corrosion problem with the plates.  About 3 or 4 months ago I decided to do some more research and I have had great results with the cell plates not corroding as before and I have achieved over 1.2 volts out of using aluminum and copper.  Which I never had much success over .6 volts if I was lucky and only lasted a short time before dieing as others have experienced.  My latest cell I just completed today is running a modified joule thief at 1.169 volts and it will produce .5 amps shorted.  I have had other cells working for about a month now with out showing any signs of corrosion or dieing. They have gotten better as time goes on.  I have shared this info with one other member on a personal basis so he could try this out for him self.  I have since decided to share my information with the group so you can try this out if you want.  I know from experience that time is the real teller of the true story but I am impressed that with the compound I am using I have noticed the great increase in voltage.  I also used the same compound in the lead acid conversion instead of using the alum and I am getting 12.5 volts at over 10 amps.  I also had an old 1.2 volt commercial Nickle cadmium battery used in cell phone towers.  I removed the plates and cleaned out and added this compound and I am getting 1.4 volts at around 5 amps.  Well so much for the talk.

I am using a compound sodium meta silicate.  You can get it locally at the ace hardware store under the name of tsp/90.  It is around 4.00 a pound but if you order the 4 lb bag it is only 10.00.  The stuff sets up like concrete with just distilled water.  No heating.  All you get with heating is foam and it won't set. 

I first just used the aluminum untreated as I call it.  and I did heat the copper to get the copper oxide coating.  I got great success with just this first try.  I was getting around 1.9 volts out but low current and I had the corrosion problem with the aluminum..  I was on youtube and ran across a video from a german fellow that was trying to set up a company and sell his crystal cells.  He was using aluminum and copper as well.  He would not disclose the chemical but he did show a detailed diagram of the inside of the cell.  I noticed he was showing a barrier between the aluminum and the compound.  With further research I found that it was aluminum oxide. 

So I put the aluminum plate in a solution of borax and distilled water and made the aluminum plate positive and used a carbon rod for the negative.  I used a 12 volt battery and left it work for 1/2 hour.  I now had a thick coating of aluminum oxide on the plate.  I let it dry for a while and built a new cell.  I got around 1.75 volts at about 25 ma.  with out the corrosion problem.  The cell just got better as time went on.  It starts working great after about 24 hours.  The next thing I did was to get the current up was I added a weak solution of sodium hydroxide when I made the cell instead of the plain water.  My current went up to around 125 to 150 ma.  I also apply a voltage twice the cell voltage while the mixture is setting up.  When the fizzing stops about after 2 hours and the cell is set I remove the voltage and let the cell settle to its working voltage.  I will be a little lower at first then in the morning it is up to its resting voltage.  I use 1/2 tsp of sodium hydroxide to 4oz water.  Any more you will have a fizzing mess and it won't set up.  I have since added portland cement to the mix half and half and after set I seal it with wax.  The cement doesn't affect the cells response but it does set up harder and is more durable. 

The circuit I included is the modified joule thief I designed using the capret and It will run the led and charge the crystal cell at the same time.  I am looking at one now on my bench and has been running all day at 1.169 volts.  Well that is all I have at the moment.  Just wanted to share.  I know that time will tell but I am real happy with what I have witnessed at this moment.  I will be glad to answer questions.   Thanks.  If this has already been tried I am sorry for wasting your time.     

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #209 on: September 27, 2014, 12:22:35 AM »
Hi again.  Just noticed that I didn't label the capret.  It is a 470 uf capacitor at 35 volts.  I have been using these to run an Led on rechargeable battery and it keeps them charged.  Have been using them on about 6 different battery from small nicads to larger lead acid cells and they have been running for over a month and the battery voltage has not dropped.  So I decided to try it in a joule thief.  Between the capret and the additional joule thief coil between the supply and the joule thief osc it is keeping the cells up and running the LED.

Also I wanted to take this time to commend Plengo for all his great work!!!!!  I have all your videos in my archive and you have saved me a lot of wasted time.  They are one of my great treasures in crystal research!!!..  Again thanks for all your great effort and work!!!