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Offline plengo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #60 on: July 11, 2013, 03:41:22 AM »
Many has been asking me what is that I have done with the cells on the series of videos called "Thermo Static Crystal cell".


It is very simple. The physical construction is pretty obvious on the videos. The "forming" of the cells is also simple.


Copper is the positive and Magnesium is the negative. I apply a 60 volts at 2amps (max) to the cell until it get so hot and dries all the liquid. I apply negative to the Copper and positive to the Magnesium. Some sparks sometimes happens but no problems so far.


I do this only once until the cell is completely dry. There will be lots of vapors so do it on a ventilated area. After that apply some Epson salts solution (usually 2 tbs to 50 ml of water).


Once you do this, the cell will have an amazing performance.


Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #61 on: August 24, 2013, 02:24:42 AM »
A update on my 5 foot crystal cell long term test....


The cell still producing power and still powering a LCD clock. I dissected the cell too and found some corrosion but not as much as i thought. The cell never needs water and been running the clock since 2011. I installed a window on the cell so i can see corrosion without taking the cell apart. The Magnesium is still strong and not brittle and the cell was giving me 1.411 V @ 100uA when I had it disconnected from the clock. Power came back instantly when shorted and when first hooking it up to the amp meter it started at 80uA and climbed to 100uA. It looks like it will run for a long time.


YouTube video...... http://youtu.be/0RaIbf8wyPY


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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #62 on: September 28, 2013, 05:14:01 AM »
Today I learned something interesting about the crystal cells i am doing. I made this mix that dries up very very fast and becomes very dry and hard very fast.


If you add water, a tiny little bit, the mixture becomes very soft, wet and mushy. A few seconds/minutes later it dries up very fast and again the same thing.


While the mix changes back and fourth, lots of energy comes out as electricity, a ratio of 1 or 2 ma per square inch in size (square).


The time that any reaction happens in the Magnesium it is very diminished because the counter effect of the mix concerning the metal, the mix sucks the water up and the Magnesium has much less time influenced by the presence of water while "ions flows" in one direction more than the other. The flow of the water being absorbed makes the travel of the opposite ions to flow, as an exchange in energy stored in the metals, slower than the other "ions" or "cation" (whichever satisfies your view).


This is in effect reducing the level of corrosion by orders of magnitude for much more energy out ration to the size of the cell.


If you have a pile of the mix dry, very dry, you don't need water, you can just poke the rock slowly until it becomes watery, softer and very soon mushy and obviously wet but no water to be found anywhere when it was very very dry like a rock.


This mix has an amazing capacity of storing water and releasing too.


This combined with a good "polarizer" in the mix, a lot less gas is released and any that is released becomes trapped in the structure full of empty spaces (crystal structure with columns, spaces, more columns - resulting in more space than matter) of the mix, specially when semi-dry, where it becomes very spongy and resilient, very bonding like tick glue.


This allows the mix inflate like balloons until or either burst (usually the biggest ones outside the edges of the cell structure) or gets absorbed again. Inside they must be containing the gas by cheer pressure and become absorbed into the mix again. An infinite cycle the mix is capable.


This and the relationship with electricity it is another unimaginable thing. All I can present is the data I collect and my conclusions based on the data.


My old cells with this mix, do produce much more energy for much more time with a good ratio of power out/mass of metals/mix.


I have to organize my notes and post them here with pictures and hopefully with videos too.


Fausto.






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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #62 on: September 28, 2013, 05:14:01 AM »
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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #64 on: October 13, 2013, 03:47:17 PM »
Fausto,

Thanks for the video post

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Offline jbignes5

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #65 on: October 13, 2013, 04:24:50 PM »
 Yes awesome.


 Has anyone tried the new hydrophobic sprays they have now to create a water barrier? This would eliminate the galvanic arguments.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #66 on: October 14, 2013, 03:58:08 AM »

@jbignes5,

Once I tested a conductive grease (I forgot the name) for that one question. BTW, I loved your idea and checked on youtube anything about this spray and I found this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEH6tDLKcVU. I was impressed of the power of the compound of the spray that is capable of being more granular than water molecules and still penetrate the material (such as a boot or brick) and dry up there.


Anything above water will fall.


My test worked with mixed results. In one is that the grease did let initially pass "electricity" and run the load but eventually it did not resisted the power of the chemicals on the cell and end up being punctured allowing "ions" to flow and complete the oxidation.


I am suspicious that a permanent barrier of "ions" would indeed work, as long only "electrons" pass through to the other side of the dipole.




@All,


a question. Let's suppose one crystal cell is able to have a total resistance of 26 mega ohms. With the media dry, it gives about some voltage. No current. Over a load.


Now, add water to the same mix (without a load) and measuring resistance again I would expect to have a much lower resistance once water is added. Result was 26 mega ohms again (+/-).


Question is: Could a cell with those characteristics give more current? if yes, and the resistance still being 26 mega ohms, would this be considered a closed loop system? (at least of any useful level).


If no, would not that mean that no current is flowing for either not having any current being generated or for the current not being able to pass 26 mega ohm of resistance in any useful level (like in groups of 5 cells, run a LED).


Now the puzzle, once load is inserted, the cell gives current and voltage. How's that?


If I hear an answer like, the load being of lower resistance than the cell would provide a drop in potential and therefore current would exist? I don't buy that.


If I hear that with the load the resistance of the cell ALSO lowered? I don't buy that either.


Fausto.











Yes awesome.


 Has anyone tried the new hydrophobic sprays they have now to create a water barrier? This would eliminate the galvanic arguments.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #67 on: October 14, 2013, 02:14:32 PM »

 It's in the stores now Called never wet as a spray from rustolium. Aparently they bought it...


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-Stops-Rust-18-oz-NeverWet-Multi-Purpose-Spray-Kit-274232/204216476#.UlvfoFA_t_M

 I'm just wondering if it is ionic conductive?

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #68 on: October 14, 2013, 08:47:20 PM »

Thank you for the link. I will buy it and try it out.


Fausto.

It's in the stores now Called never wet as a spray from rustolium. Aparently they bought it...


http://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-Stops-Rust-18-oz-NeverWet-Multi-Purpose-Spray-Kit-274232/204216476#.UlvfoFA_t_M

 I'm just wondering if it is ionic conductive?

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
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Re: Crystal Cell Research
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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #70 on: October 15, 2013, 08:16:44 PM »
I found this concerning batteries internal resistance (IR):


http://www.physicsforums.com/showthread.php?t=634808


http://data.energizer.com/PDFs/BatteryIR.pdf


http://www.power-sonic.com/images/powersonic/sla_batteries/pg_series/PG-12V200_11_Jan_12.pdf
http://www.power-sonic.com/images/powersonic/sla_batteries/ps_psg_series/12volt/PS-121400FR_11_Feb_21.pdf
http://www.power-sonic.com/images/powersonic/Info%20for%20PHR%20section%20of%20website%2011%20Nov%2015/PHR-12500_12_July_2.pdf




This all tells me that normal Lead Acid Batteries are around 3 to 5 mili-ohms. My cells has 26 Mega Ohms and still giving voltage and current. That's so strange to me.


I really need help here.


Fausto.


 In traditional electronics this is known:


 "In electrical engineering, the maximum power transfer theorem states that, to obtain maximum external power from a source with a finite internal resistance, the resistance of the load must equal the resistance of the source as viewed from its output terminals. Moritz von Jacobi published the maximum power (transfer) theorem around 1840; it is also referred to as "Jacobi's law".
The theorem results in maximum power transfer, and not maximum efficiency. If the resistance of the load is made larger than the resistance of the source, then efficiency is higher, since a higher percentage of the source power is transferred to the load, but the magnitude of the load power is lower since the total circuit resistance goes up.
If the load resistance is smaller than the source resistance, then most of the power ends up being dissipated in the source, and although the total power dissipated is higher, due to a lower total resistance, it turns out that the amount dissipated in the load is reduced.
The theorem states how to choose (so as to maximize power transfer) the load resistance, once the source resistance is given. It is a common misconception to apply the theorem in the opposite scenario. It does not say how to choose the source resistance for a given load resistance. In fact, the source resistance that maximizes power transfer is always zero, regardless of the value of the load resistance."

 I am also having a real problem like you. Something is different with this type of cell, it is counter intuitive.

 I think this type of cell is gonna need a converter like device. Something to give it more umph to specific loads.

 I am gonna be working on Bifilar pancake coils to see if I can get that to work. Like a joule thief type of a setup depending on the load.

 Are you still of the opinion that this is a ionic power transfer?

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #71 on: November 03, 2013, 03:12:05 AM »
And one more video that I think is the beginning of a great journey on this Crystal Cell Research.


http://youtu.be/L9GovDUYIqM



I am showing one of Bedini's cell and indeed so far it is amazing. Excellent power output and no signs of corrosion. It is only Copper of good quality, Magnesium of the highest quality possible 99.99% and Alum, that's it.


Very easy to make and it really runs for a LONG time before needing a drop of water. Well, that's said.


Now, my research has reached a point of no return, i think. I am able to create an electrolyte that when totally dry (100%) presents good voltage and current. Not forever but pretty much for a week or so. Great ration weight/size to power output.


That is one, the second is that this same formula runs even better with water and the best, NO CORROSION of the metals.


I don't think I need quality Magnesium. I am testing with both qualities. My cell is more complicated and difficult to build at the size I am building but as bigger it becomes, easier is to build.


This new cell does not perform as good as Bedini's cell, i think, but mine is very, very thin and small. So let's see where it will make me go.....to the rabbit role.




Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #72 on: March 04, 2014, 04:56:59 PM »
Well it has been awhile

I still have the bug of creating a high powered cell that lasts a long time

Now that it is finally raining I  have some time to play

I finally broke through the 2 amp cell range

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9aZvMYzCP4

This cell has settled dry at about 350 Ma

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #73 on: March 04, 2014, 06:38:38 PM »
Well it has been awhile

I still have the bug of creating a high powered cell that lasts a long time

Now that it is finally raining I  have some time to play

I finally broke through the 2 amp cell range

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9aZvMYzCP4

This cell has settled dry at about 350 Ma
Impressive!   Is this made similar to plengo's?    Have you seen lasersaber's cell.   He did a nice video on how to build a cell that makes it very easy to follow.   I have it on my 'to do list'.    Lasersaber is at www.laserhacker.com if you want to take a look at how his is built.   Not saying it's better - just for info.   I don't think he's getting as much current as yours IIRC.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #74 on: March 04, 2014, 08:56:31 PM »
Matrix,

Wow, Laser has a very nice dry cell, it would be nice to know what it finally settled down to on power (thanks for posting)

The cell you see is the result of many years of on and off study

You can see mix designs on both Fausto and mine YouTube video channels

This cell that I am currently working with (even though everything used is non toxic) can be dangerous, left shorted out it could be dangerous, it kinda feeds on itself, it got so hot it was vibrating 


 

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