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Offline Allwest

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2013, 04:27:23 AM »
Hi Fausto and Allwest and All !
Very interesting results you are getting !
Great work !

Well,
when Walter Hofmann and me worked on the Zamak alloy- graphite-saltwatercells in
2005, we also had some kind of Zinkcloride crystal forming in the layer between the
Zamak alloy and the graphite.
This crystal also did grow and form some kind of PN layer
between the graphite and the Zamak.

This PN layer is then like a big diode which can rectify all different kind of wavelength
and might also rectify lower wavelength heat radiation or just the environmental heat
inside the cell...

Probably the same is true in your cell Fausto, so when the crystalls have formed on the Magnesium
metal it is mostly shielded from further fast destruction and the crystal layer between the copper
and Magnesium can form some kind of PN diode layer and extract electricity by rectifying heat or
RF waves.

in 2005 the problem with the Zamak metal was, that it was still slowly decomposing because
of the NaCl salt in the water and thus thus these Zinkchlorid crystals always did grew bigger until
all the Zamak rods were decomposed.
But they formed some nice clear transparent crystals.

Some old videos and some pictures you still can find here.

http://harti.com/walt/

Hope this helps.

Regards, Stefan.

Very interesting info, thanks for sharing

These allwest type of dry cells are very sensitive, once they are formed you can touch them and the volts and amps start going up, after you get these to form and become dry, you can add water and other and these cells climb BIG TIME

The earlier Allwest cells as you can see in my videos and Fausto easily reached 1 AMP, but destroyed the mag very quickly, the video fausto made shows the big Mag falling apart in chunks

I think the new refined cells create more power in the long run without destroying the mag

The funny part about this type of cell, even when shorted and dry for months it still puts out power

Best of luck

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #45 on: March 05, 2013, 04:27:23 AM »

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #46 on: March 05, 2013, 04:30:23 AM »
Consider again what is implied with the Graphene produced in a DVD lighscribe drive.  The ease with which these cheap materials are translated into high density energy storage is why so many are rushing into the arena.  Now, consider the very real possibilities of graphene and another nano structured material working in harmony to force couple the wheel work of the infinite....and one has a battery that never quits.

A good experiment in that direction would involve a layer of interleaved graphene and thin insulator so as to collect high tension positive charge.  Imagine how quickly it could take a charge simply by rubbing the insulator layer.  Imagine a cell phone for instance, charged by simply rubbing it a few times against one's clothing.  Or the super thin graphene capacitor continually topped off by wifi or cell signal energy transduction.



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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #47 on: March 05, 2013, 06:21:25 AM »
In recent videos I have shown my latest progress with a very powerful LEDs set running brightly (I calculated to about 3 to 4 watts of power to run this LEDs).


I am using 14 cells in series (to be honest unecessary).


My latest findings has to do with what I call a "forming the cell". Which is a very simple but long process of forming to PN (or the like) layers over the Copper. The first is a (assumption) form of Copper Oxide of sorts while the second is a Copper Sulfate of sorts. Unlike everyone is thinking I don't think I am forming a layer over the Magnesium rod.


I am providing a mechanism to protect the Magnesium by utilizing two elements. First a compound named MnO2 (Manganese Di-Oxide) which absorbs hydrogen faster than can evaporate under normal conditions. Second making the whole mix more Base based or Hydroxide than Acid, more like very base.


Refreshing the cell with Epson salts solution seems the best formula so far. Not all cells end up working well. Some are simply exceptional in their behavior and output power than others of the exact same build and formula and build from same batch of elements.


I can easily see that the Magnesium has been reduced its corrosion to by at least a good 80% compared to previous tests I have done.


I can achieve up to 350ma at .4 volts one single cell (under a short). No load even at 2.60 volts one cell. Simply amazing, nothing like I have seen before.


The process of "forming the cell" is using electricity. I pump 2 amps at 62 volts over the cell to the point of boiling water temperatures. Extremely dangerous process since Magnesium can light up and catch in fire, which happened a few times already. Besides the fact that MnO2 is poisonous.


So, my careful advice is experiment only by your own judgement and not mine. I am claiming no liability to anyone on this experiment.


Cell is formed once is dry under the electrical death of the  cell. After refresh with Epson solution and she will climb pretty fast.


Temperature has demonstrated NO signs of effect over the cell. I put some cells under the torch and no voltage or current had variations.


This is indeed a very special cell.


Fausto.




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Re: Crystal Cell Research
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Offline Allwest

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #48 on: March 05, 2013, 05:09:52 PM »
In recent videos I have shown my latest progress with a very powerful LEDs set running brightly (I calculated to about 3 to 4 watts of power to run this LEDs).


I am using 14 cells in series (to be honest unecessary).


My latest findings has to do with what I call a "forming the cell". Which is a very simple but long process of forming to PN (or the like) layers over the Copper. The first is a (assumption) form of Copper Oxide of sorts while the second is a Copper Sulfate of sorts. Unlike everyone is thinking I don't think I am forming a layer over the Magnesium rod.


I am providing a mechanism to protect the Magnesium by utilizing two elements. First a compound named MnO2 (Manganese Di-Oxide) which absorbs hydrogen faster than can evaporate under normal conditions. Second making the whole mix more Base based or Hydroxide than Acid, more like very base.


Refreshing the cell with Epson salts solution seems the best formula so far. Not all cells end up working well. Some are simply exceptional in their behavior and output power than others of the exact same build and formula and build from same batch of elements.


I can easily see that the Magnesium has been reduced its corrosion to by at least a good 80% compared to previous tests I have done.


I can achieve up to 350ma at .4 volts one single cell (under a short). No load even at 2.60 volts one cell. Simply amazing, nothing like I have seen before.


The process of "forming the cell" is using electricity. I pump 2 amps at 62 volts over the cell to the point of boiling water temperatures. Extremely dangerous process since Magnesium can light up and catch in fire, which happened a few times already. Besides the fact that MnO2 is poisonous.


So, my careful advice is experiment only by your own judgement and not mine. I am claiming no liability to anyone on this experiment.


Cell is formed once is dry under the electrical death of the  cell. After refresh with Epson solution and she will climb pretty fast.


Temperature has demonstrated NO signs of effect over the cell. I put some cells under the torch and no voltage or current had variations.


This is indeed a very special cell.


Fausto.

Hi Fausto,

Very nice work on the new cell, it looks like a winner

and good idea on using the MnO2, this should cut down on the corrosion of the mag

Best of luck

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2013, 03:24:45 AM »
Fausto,

I had to re-read

"I can achieve up to 350ma at .4 volts one single cell (under a short). No load even at 2.60 volts one cell. Simply amazing, nothing like I have seen before."

WOW! 2.60 volts

Best of luck

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Offline plengo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2013, 02:52:50 PM »
I know. I am impressed myself. They don't sustain that but just the fact I got that in the beginning is amazing. There is something special about the formation of the cell.


I will make a step-by-step video of how to form. It is very simple but dangerous.


Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2013, 04:05:32 PM »
@plengo, @Allwest:
        It is good to see you are still working on these cells.  I check in once in a while and am always impressed with the direction and results I see posted here.
        Every now and then I see something lying around and do the “what if” game and throw something together.  I still get a thrill when an LED lights up.
        I still have several cells that continue to function with my oldest being 2.5 years now.  Several have been working for a year and longer.  It is still great fun to cast zinc electrodes as I have several in a box just waiting for emergencies.
        Keep up the good work and I sincerely hope you find the perfect combination that will benefit all.  I will continue to check in and observe.
 
@Stefan:
        Enjoyed looking at yours and Walter Hofmann’s archive.  Wonderful that you have saved that work.
 
Brad S  :)

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #52 on: March 11, 2013, 02:26:18 AM »
To All

The latest Allwest cell reaches 1.58 volts and 60 Ma

Wait to you see the size of this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1syYzVsFX8

Best of luck

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #53 on: March 11, 2013, 05:47:57 AM »
Hi Fausto and Allwest, great success !
Well done guys.

Well my current alufoil-carbonfiber cells died after a few days and dried out and
the NaCO3 ate the alufoil away.

So I will also soon try it with MnO2 on the alufoil side to get rid of the hydrogen there...
It seems the MnO2 which is also in normal carbon zinc batteries at the zinc electrodes
eats away the hydrogen (oxidizes it to water)  which is produced at the metal electrode and thus
it prevents a "cloud charge" of the metal electrode where the electrons are just hindered to go through,
so the cell gets very high internal resistance without the MnO2 oxidizer...

So we need an oxidizer salt at the metal electrode to oxidize the H2 to water and this is what the
MnO2 is doing.

Maybe we can still find a better and cheaper material to do this ?
Maybe also KMnO4 will work even better ?
It seems these battery cells have a lot in common with black power and fireworks chemistry
as we have the same reactions like in gun powder or flash powders oxidizing the metals,
but only working very slowly and give off electrons for the current to light up LEDs and other loads
and not just burning up and making a flash bang as in fireworks...

Surely if we succeed too make the right PN semiconductor layers inside these cells with the right band gap,
we will be able to convert the right wavelength from outside into electrical energy , like heat waves, radio waves,
light waves, etc..

So maybe some of these cells also work on converting just long wave infrared heat waves into electrical power
and thus extract heat from the environment and convert it directly into electricity.

Then it is understandable, why they last longer than pure galvanic cells , which just consume only the
electrode materials in a pure chemical reaction...

Regards, Stefan.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #54 on: March 13, 2013, 05:03:42 AM »
Hi Fausto and Allwest, great success !
Well done guys.

Well my current alufoil-carbonfiber cells died after a few days and dried out and
the NaCO3 ate the alufoil away.

So I will also soon try it with MnO2 on the alufoil side to get rid of the hydrogen there...
It seems the MnO2 which is also in normal carbon zinc batteries at the zinc electrodes
eats away the hydrogen (oxidizes it to water)  which is produced at the metal electrode and thus
it prevents a "cloud charge" of the metal electrode where the electrons are just hindered to go through,
so the cell gets very high internal resistance without the MnO2 oxidizer...

So we need an oxidizer salt at the metal electrode to oxidize the H2 to water and this is what the
MnO2 is doing.

Maybe we can still find a better and cheaper material to do this ?
Maybe also KMnO4 will work even better ?
It seems these battery cells have a lot in common with black power and fireworks chemistry
as we have the same reactions like in gun powder or flash powders oxidizing the metals,
but only working very slowly and give off electrons for the current to light up LEDs and other loads
and not just burning up and making a flash bang as in fireworks...

Surely if we succeed too make the right PN semiconductor layers inside these cells with the right band gap,
we will be able to convert the right wavelength from outside into electrical energy , like heat waves, radio waves,
light waves, etc..

So maybe some of these cells also work on converting just long wave infrared heat waves into electrical power
and thus extract heat from the environment and convert it directly into electricity.

Then it is understandable, why they last longer than pure galvanic cells , which just consume only the
electrode materials in a pure chemical reaction...

Regards, Stefan.

Stefan,

Wow! Potassium permanganate is a very good suggestion to use on these cells

Regarding MnO2- I have been trying green copper oxide as a catalyst for hydrogen, do you know anything about that? This comes about naturally in my cells and correlates to the increase in power 

"Surely if we succeed too make the right PN semiconductor layers inside these cells with the right band gap,
we will be able to convert the right wavelength from outside into electrical energy , like heat waves, radio waves,
light waves, etc.."
Glad to see! That is exactly where I am trying to head with my cells right now, especially the dry cells, they seem to be in the category of a galvanic and thermal electric device, I have also successfully added a Pyro electric component, the next being adding a piezo  component to the cell

Thinking of using LITHIUM TANTALATE until I read the MSDS sheet

Best of luck   


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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #55 on: March 19, 2013, 02:19:33 AM »
To All

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0jwgDT7u18

Graphite and treated-formed magnesium dry cell
This cell holds power dry (shorted) at 2.25 Ma dry, adding just water-moist brings this cell up to 200 Ma range  1.85 volts
But the interesting results is the dry cell power that has no sign of depleting

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #56 on: March 19, 2013, 03:55:29 PM »
To All

Still trying to figure out why some of my crystal cells react with more power when shorted

Heat does seem to affect this cell with the possibility of a thermal difference between two dissimilar metals   

But also researching these cells getting the power from a kind of Thermophotovoltaic cell, which are also affected by heat, that turn heat into electricity via photons, these cells  use crystals to change and collect optical energy, near-infrared region

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia"Thermophotovoltaic (TPV) energy conversion is a direct conversion process from heat differentials to electricity via photons. A basic thermophotovoltaic system consists of a thermal emitter and a photovoltaic diode cell."

Best of luck

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #57 on: April 12, 2013, 01:37:14 PM »
Hi everyone, I've been busy with other things and have not played with crystal cells that much. I do have an update on the 5 foot crystal cell that powers a LCD clock that was a little odd.


Around 3-5-13 the 5 foot tall crystal cells that powers the LCD clock went out. The screen completely blank. Some times the screen would flicker a digit out of the block of numbers but it would never show the full amount of digits to show the time. I was about ready to put it up and maybe take it apart to see what happen and why it died but due to my laziness i never got around to doing so and i’m glad i didn't[/size][/font]. last night around 9PM on 4-11-13 the clock came back at full power! The clock was dead for nearly a month, I never touched it or moved it, and was considering it a failure and ready to put it up for good. Before going to bed I set the clock a little ahead and when i woke this morning its still keeping perfect time at full power! I have no idea what could have triggered it to turn back on as it was never touched and the cell is sealed up too. Within that month i had thunderstorms pass though and the clock never responded to the temp or humidity of the storm. Maybe the cell doesn't like March? During the time the clock was out I missed it because i used it as a clock in the room. The cell dies and then comes back to life, how odd is that? [/font]

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #58 on: May 23, 2013, 07:29:59 AM »
G'Day all,
@ib, I've had the same thing happen on some of my older cells. They die for no reason and then blam come back to life.
Keep up the good work guys.
regards ian.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #59 on: June 06, 2013, 11:23:11 AM »
Hi Everyone

First I want you all to know how much I appreciate your efforts Fausto, allwest ipointless, lidmotor, lasersaber, inventor3 ..... I am fascinated by your work and dedication. Now I have a great desire to start experimenting myself. I am currently ordering materials. I have one question. One thing I have not seen on this thread is any mention of John Hutchison's cell. He uses some unique materials like Rochelle salts, Sodium Silicate and what he calls doping agents like Galena, Iron Pyrite, Calcium Carbonate and Silver filings.

Here is the video. Initially I was about to stop watching it because I thought it was a prank!! But somehow I kept watching.
I guess a scientist can be forgiven for his eccentricities :-)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xf_JBnDOBw

 

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