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stprue

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #30 on: January 15, 2013, 01:21:28 PM »
@allwest

That's a powerful dry cell you have created.  What did the ending voltage and ma settle at?  Any chance you could share the construction details so others could replicate?

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #31 on: January 20, 2013, 03:09:38 AM »
This cell still needs more long term testing

If you are interested in dry cells you should check my other videos on long term cells, that still have power

Best of luck

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #32 on: February 03, 2013, 05:10:33 PM »
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plengo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #33 on: February 19, 2013, 07:14:18 AM »
In continuation of my research I am getting to a point where I am more and more certain I am on the correct path.


My latest cell using MnO2 + Mg + Cu + Carbon Activated + Epson salts + Distilled water is having an amazing success. Soon I will be posting more videos and results but for now let show a few weird things:


1 - when shorted the voltage and current first goes to almost zero and than climbs back to a substantial higher number (Allwest replication I think).
2 - when the cell is first make it provides (4 cells in series) 6.4v at over 100ma for a good 5 minutes and than start the normal (or more correctly abnormal process)
3 - the cell uses very little of all this chemicals , more like 90% less than before.
4 - no corrosion has been seen on the Mg or Cu or even MnO2
5 - the production of gasses is much higher on the O2 than H2
6 - it is necessary a little jump on the cell before she goes into that "special mode", otherwise she will only behave as a normal corrosion crystal cell
7 - no need for Alum and Titanium also works instead of Mg although much lower voltage and current but still works and Titanium will NOT CORRODE for sure at all.
8 - 4 cells lights 2 LEDS pretty good.
9 - As she performs better with time and dries out, no need for more water.
10 - the cell performs accordingly to the load, lower the resistance, better the performance.

All in all, I will very soon share more and ah, one more very strange thing, if I remove the negative probe of the volt meter, the voltage of the cell goes into this strange but very predictable and periodic reversal of voltage although still on both poles of the cell a normal polarity non-reversal higher voltage is shown.


Now 4 cells in series is giving 2.643v at 1.5ma very constant. Shorted it goes up and up and I have not found the end yet, because it only gets slower the growth but keeps growing.


This cell is very different and it was designed before i built with my theory being applied and worked just like my "Monkey Science" said.


The idea of using only the positive probe of the volt meter was to detect the reversal that I predicted to be necessary for it to work. Basically the cell is replenishing herself and using water and "something else" as the fuel. Water only in the beginning.


Fausto.
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stprue

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #34 on: February 19, 2013, 01:27:07 PM »
Great progress plengo!

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #35 on: February 20, 2013, 05:12:06 PM »
Today I ran a quick test (among many) using only the copper and aluminum foil and the result is , guess what? very positive. I ran tests like this before and aluminum was not corroded neither copper. The only thing against is that the power output is about 5x less than using magnesium.


Using Aluminum foil makes this crystal cell extremely cheap and accessible to all. How much costs a roll with kilometers of aluminum? less than $10 bucks and one can make thousands of cells with that roll.


Now I am also looking for a copper replacement since this is more expensive, but I am not going to die for it, since copper is also cheaper than magnesium and very abundant.


One tinny cell of 1 inch sq gave me 0.01v at 10ma. Imagine a roll compressed with 1 kilometer of it?


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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2013, 03:45:17 AM »
Hi

I am new to this. I have made 5 batteries watching your videos.
Three with Elmer's glue two in cement. They have same basic properties you talk about.

If I may ask what is in your latest mix alum only or are there any other things included.

Greg

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #37 on: February 21, 2013, 11:33:28 PM »
Hi

I am new to this. I have made 5 batteries watching your videos.
Three with Elmer's glue two in cement. They have same basic properties you talk about.

If I may ask what is in your latest mix alum only or are there any other things included.

Greg


A few posts before your question I mentioned: MnO2 + Mg + Cu + Carbon Activated + Epson salts + Distilled water

Now, those news cells are much complicated and I am still to make more videos about it.


Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #38 on: February 26, 2013, 01:14:03 PM »
I've slowed down on the Crystal cell research. All cells but one or two lay around doing nothing. The only cell that is really doing anything is my 5 foot tall crystal cell that powers the LCD clock. The clock was running fine til this month in February when the clock face started to go dim and I assume the cell was finally dying.  I kept it going till the clock face would go blank, but it never did. The clock face regained its brightness but now it was off by 20 minutes. It remained at full power for a few days so I reset the clock back to normal time. A few days later the clock started to loose power again and fell 20 minutes back again, and once it regain power i reset it back. This is the third time so far that the clock looses power and falls 20 minutes behind, every time i set the clock 4 to 5 minutes ahead of the computers time. This is odd because when a normal battery dies it goes dead and won't recover like this cell does.


Right now i'm just waiting for the cell to die so I can pack up work and be done with it. Just when I think the cell is dying it comes right back to life. Even though I think i know how the cell works, sometimes a cell still has something to teach me.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #39 on: February 26, 2013, 01:27:30 PM »
I recently was able to obtain barium titanate powder, so I mixed and melted in some caranuba wax and as it cooled I ran about 1200vdc through it for 30 minutes.  Initial reading was 0.000vdc.  I shorted this cell and will check it in a week for any effect.  I will post my results.  I was a little disappointed in my initial reading of 0vdc as you can easily make a crystal cell with melted sugar and get voltage voltage out of it.   :(

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #40 on: February 26, 2013, 04:08:54 PM »
I've slowed down on the Crystal cell research. All cells but one or two lay around doing nothing. The only cell that is really doing anything is my 5 foot tall crystal cell that powers the LCD clock. The clock was running fine til this month in February when the clock face started to go dim and I assume the cell was finally dying.  I kept it going till the clock face would go blank, but it never did. The clock face regained its brightness but now it was off by 20 minutes. It remained at full power for a few days so I reset the clock back to normal time. A few days later the clock started to loose power again and fell 20 minutes back again, and once it regain power i reset it back. This is the third time so far that the clock looses power and falls 20 minutes behind, every time i set the clock 4 to 5 minutes ahead of the computers time. This is odd because when a normal battery dies it goes dead and won't recover like this cell does.


Right now i'm just waiting for the cell to die so I can pack up work and be done with it. Just when I think the cell is dying it comes right back to life. Even though I think i know how the cell works, sometimes a cell still has something to teach me.

IB,
Does your pipe cell have the ends open?

plengo

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #41 on: February 26, 2013, 08:28:21 PM »
@Allwest,


I am stating to understand how your cell can have such high amperage and go up as you use it. It has to do with the oxidation layer formed on top of your Magnesium because of the acidity of the Chilli Pepper sauce.


Your cell indeed dry can be very powerfull. Do a test, make a very light solution of Epson salts like 1 tsp with 50 ml of water and added a few drops of that to your cell and see the results.


It will sky rocket the voltage and amperage every time.




@IBpointless2,


don't give up my friend. There is way much more to it than you think.


Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #42 on: February 27, 2013, 04:53:29 AM »
@Allwest,


I am stating to understand how your cell can have such high amperage and go up as you use it. It has to do with the oxidation layer formed on top of your Magnesium because of the acidity of the Chilli Pepper sauce.


Your cell indeed dry can be very powerfull. Do a test, make a very light solution of Epson salts like 1 tsp with 50 ml of water and added a few drops of that to your cell and see the results.


It will sky rocket the voltage and amperage every time.




@IBpointless2,


don't give up my friend. There is way much more to it than you think.


Fausto.

Hi Fausto,

This affect happens to my cells even when I do not use chilli powder

I have done a lot of study on this, not certain yet but, the shorting out of any cell causes heat, and heat makes this cell rise in power (with limits as you have found out),

Test conclusion- I get a longer time of power going up with thick mag when shorting out cell than with less thick mag using the same surface area,

Test conclusion- I can get the power to keep going up if I cool the mag

So my humble opinion is that the Allwest cells creates its own energy by heating itself up, until the two different metals have equal temperature

I am creating some kind of self generating thermal electric power,

The normal TEG device does not act this way, it has to be heated and cooled to gain power,

With the Allwest type of cell, all you have to do is cool, (I think this is a huge thing)

You should try this and let me know your finding

Best of luck 

Note: The reason why the thickness matters in the mag, is because its mass takes longer to come up to the same temperature as the copper when shorted out

Also, another note, when you make the flat copper mag cell, place copper on both sides of the mag and you will get almost double the power     

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #43 on: March 03, 2013, 04:45:34 PM »
Fausto,

From your videos I see you are making great progress on these cells,

One thing to note on forming these cells that I have observed, when the cell finally drys and reaches 1.47 volts resting then they are fully formed

This number keeps coming up on each cell once it has completed forming, not sure why yet, but it comes up very consistent

And then you know it is ready for the next step

Best of luck


One protection treatment of the mag that looks very promising (Dip the mag in H2O2 and stain the mag black with lighter flame) I believe this adds Nano carbon film that protects mag and adds to the power transfer)

Best of luck     

 

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #44 on: March 05, 2013, 03:20:05 AM »
Hi Fausto and Allwest and All !
Very interesting results you are getting !
Great work !

Well,
when Walter Hofmann and me worked on the Zamak alloy- graphite-saltwatercells in
2005, we also had some kind of Zinkcloride crystal forming in the layer between the
Zamak alloy and the graphite.
This crystal also did grow and form some kind of PN layer
between the graphite and the Zamak.

This PN layer is then like a big diode which can rectify all different kind of wavelength
and might also rectify lower wavelength heat radiation or just the environmental heat
inside the cell...

Probably the same is true in your cell Fausto, so when the crystalls have formed on the Magnesium
metal it is mostly shielded from further fast destruction and the crystal layer between the copper
and Magnesium can form some kind of PN diode layer and extract electricity by rectifying heat or
RF waves.

in 2005 the problem with the Zamak metal was, that it was still slowly decomposing because
of the NaCl salt in the water and thus thus these Zinkchlorid crystals always did grew bigger until
all the Zamak rods were decomposed.
But they formed some nice clear transparent crystals.

Some old videos and some pictures you still can find here.

http://harti.com/walt/

Hope this helps.

Regards, Stefan.