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Offline halfvulcan

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #120 on: April 19, 2014, 10:00:27 PM »
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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #121 on: April 19, 2014, 10:41:30 PM »
It takes some tinkering before you'll convince yourself these crystal cells are real. I haven't been the most scientific perhaps, but I can tell you I've proven it to myself. I just dont have it documented to show you the proof unfortunately. I wanted to add, I made some wire-based dry crystal cells some months ago and used red plastic drinking straws and superglue to seal them from outside moisture. Suddenly they lost ALL POWER within hours, maybe minutes. They wouldn't put out anything. I took the straws off and suddenly they worked again. Not just one. This was with about 4 cells. Same effect with all of them. I intend to try this again eventually because that blew my mind. I have no idea why that would happen unless there's something about the straws that was somehow blocking the energy the crystals need. And thanks for explaining about your coating method. That's amazing. I'll be trying that.

Okay, what JH is doing maybe isn't the same as a crystal cell, but thought it would be interesting to us. Notice he mentioned that he "coated the wire", "pickled" it. That is somewhat significant I bet, or else he wouldn't have bothered with it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td9OpWJz13w . This guy comes off a complete lunatic at times, but he seems to be legit.

More on subject, linking to one of IBPointless' videos if he doesn't mind. This is some data that Ibpointless was awesome to provide to prove what he already had proven to himself pretty thoroughly by this point. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BH5NGKpRw0E . But also, I recommend a look at all his crystal cell videos. It helped me.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #122 on: April 20, 2014, 01:37:48 AM »
Crystal cells are real. There is nothing wrong per se with galvanic reactions. Life needs water to ionize and dissolve solids, then those
ions and particles spread out in the water evening out their own densities so that other processes can pick them up. Water is
the great ionizer. Ions are used in a battery for charge mobility. The problem is it is difficult to stop the process and protect
the metal poles of the battery. I was wondering if there are any other fluids that ionize but might be easier to control than water.

Those hydrate cells where people add small amounts of water may be piezo pressure based. Lazersabre says his cells are slowly
ejecting their electrodes as the water gets converted to additional OH hydrate material. I think the initial copper oxide layer they
put on those copper bowls will protect them from water corrosion.

Crystal Cells work on something called Petrolithic energy. Rock crystal energy. Stars like the Sun cannot fuse Hydrogen to Hydrogen
directly so the they use a side reaction called the positron-electron-positron II pathway. This produces PEP-II neutrinos. Those
reaction equations in physics have to balance just like chemical equations do. PEP-II neutrinos carry away the angular momentum
from particle spin from the star reaction. Neutrinoes are like ghost particles they don't interact with matter hardly at all, Except
it's like tuning a radio, if a reaction needs just the right energy then bamo the reaction goes ahead with just the energy it needs.
It's like a radiant field, buts its not a real field, its these particles. Put 200 atmospheres of hydrogen into a metal tank to tune it
and bamo neutrons come out it. I suspect this is the driving force for LENR reactions generally.

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« Reply #122 on: April 20, 2014, 01:37:48 AM »
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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #123 on: April 20, 2014, 01:56:00 AM »
I've come to the realization that how or why they work really doesn't matter but if we all work together to find cheap/free/renewable energy, does it really matter?
 because at the "finish line" no one will really care how or why

And as I read these comments I bet there's more knowledge on just this post then any university combined

 Please let's stop asking why and start passing the finish line

Thanks
Jon

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #124 on: April 20, 2014, 02:21:34 AM »



Yeah, I think this is a great thing. Imagine how many of the PM machines on overunity.com would work, if you could just add some
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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #125 on: April 20, 2014, 02:40:15 AM »
You're an instagator mscoffman we should get a beer some time I believe we may just be able to crip the fabric of time space or at the very least have a few laughs at others expense  ;D

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #126 on: April 20, 2014, 02:41:43 AM »
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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #127 on: April 21, 2014, 05:24:44 AM »
Happy Easter to All.

I want to testify (a few posts ago) that I ALSO see the effect that when the cell is locked air tight it usually dies pretty fast and once you open she comes alive again. I have MANY cells that works like that and some I gave up trying to air tight them. They have been the best ones.

My mother came this year in January to visit me and she asked about this bunch of "things" on the corner of my lab. I said they were "dead" cells on their "cemetery" waiting for recycling.

So I took one and put a few drops of water (the cell was about 2 years old) and the baby came to life. My mother loved and took it to Brasil. Still shinning in her living room as bright as before. She only adds a drop of water every month or so.

It is mind bending those cells. Air tight is indeed a mystery to me that I had not a chance to test still. I have SOOOOO many cells that I have been testing for the last 3 years, day in and day out non stop. Hundreds of formulas by now. Some very very cool and long lasting like nothing out there (except Ms Marcus Reed). Those are definitely galvanic BUT with a very extended life span. 3 years minimum. Very small cells too.

I have not read the last 9 pages (i think) but just jumped in to confirm the "air phenomena".

One of the cells I am working now as a sequence of my learning is the "water holding" mechanism. Make the cell air tight but maintain the little initial moisture inside. You will need something to hold the water "outside" the crystal formation.

Many are confused of the function of the crystal. The crystal is not for the water holding. The crystal is the conductor and energy extractor of the machine. The crystal allows the flow of the energy via the galvanic reaction, BUT, it reduces the reaction tremendously and effectively extends the life of it to times of nothing like out there commercially.

A regular electrolyte (as many commercial cells have) is ok to start the "galvanic process". The crystal reduces it and keeps it going to a minimum keeping the distance of the two electrodes as if they were very far from each other. This causes the internal resistance to increase but not to the loss of power. The "ion movement" as one would explain the galvanic reaction mechanism is just part of the puzzle.

Too much water WILL KILL the cell, too little will reduce the power and the correct balance will perform greatly. Holding the water and releasing automatically at the correct amount IS CRUCIAL.

Too much crystal growth will kill the cell for "starvation of water". The crystal will grow on the water. Water is her food. No good. Crystal is good for the structure of the energy flow. CRUCIAL.

Watch some of my videos of the crystal formation. Try to look them at the microscopic level. The formation is something really interesting. The crystal grows and grows and grows. Metals grows the same. Rocks grows the same. Why??? Where the energy comes from to make them grow? See?

Direct that growth energy towards the energy flow and not towards the galvanic flow. Galvanic is simply excess of energy left over that destroys the cell. Galvanic may be impossible to stop but can be reduced to 99%, yes it can.

Think in terms of Crystal growth. Crystal growth = less galvanic and vice-versa.

Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #128 on: April 23, 2014, 09:20:38 PM »
I've come to the realization that how or why they work really doesn't matter but if we all work together to find cheap/free/renewable energy, does it really matter?
Discovery of something often happens by accident. Perfecting it accidentally is more difficult.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #129 on: April 27, 2014, 01:48:30 AM »
Yeah, I didn't mean to sound critical about the above comment.  Actually, there's nothing wrong to getting free energy working before you know how it's working. So long as it isn't irradiating your neighbors or something or changing the weather or killing all the honey bees or spilling toxic chemicals into the environment or invading foreign countries or knocking over buildings with people inside... There may be more examples, but you get the point.
My little copper-wire cells trapped in a glass jar with some LEDS are stil going. The light is still on. It's been.. I forget how long now. Over a week? Sealed up pretty good, I think. I made the mistake of doubting the seal on day 3 or so and started to loosen it before retightening and heard air hissing I think.  I can't be sure though. So there may be pressure build-up in the jar. Which I would have expected based on what people have said about these.  I just wish I'd have been expecting it when I did that so I would have listened closer for it.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #130 on: May 16, 2014, 02:53:50 AM »
My dry copperwire, salt crystal and salt substitute aluminum foil cells are doing better than ever right now. Still going after, I think, a month.
Be aware, what I'm doing here are just basic salt crystal cells. Some advice from more intelligent people earlier in this thread will yield likely much better results, so read those. I'll be trying some of those, but haven't gotten around to it yet.
So here's the history: Got the largest copper wire I have here. I have some old wire that I got when I was cleaning up the back yard of my grandfather's old place. I never have looked at what guage it is, but it's probably typical ac wire used in construction. So, I cut that to about 8-inch lengths and cut off the insulation. Made the mix of equal amounts of epsom salt and salt substitute in water.  I cut some newspaper strips 2" by 8" each. 1 at a time, rolled those into the salt solution and wrapped as tightly as possible around wire without breaking newspaper strip. They'll feel soggy and moldable, so I roll them in my hands until they feel pretty round. It drips and you'll sometimes splash around a bit. If you do it, don't get this stuff in your eyes. If you do, rinse your eyes well with water. Yes, I learned this the hard way. :D  I left those alone for a couple days. Then I had strips of aluminum that I wrapped around them. I used small flexible insulated wire to wrap around tightly as a way of getting the foil as tight as possible against the newspaper all the way around down the entire length of the cell. When finished, unwrapped the small wire. So, now I test to see what the voltage is. If the voltage isn't at least half a volt for an aluminum-copper salt cell, I call it bad. But I don't give up yet. I've found that putting the "bad" ones in a toaster oven on high for a few minutes "wakes them up and probably starts up bad chemical processes too, but with time, maybe that goes away. My goal in that moment is just to get the cell working since it's no good for sure if I don't.  The heat forces some remaining moisture in the cell to steam and mix things up a bit and usually gets things going up to the expected voltage from then on. Then I give the cells a day or so longer to dry out in case they still need it. Then I test them again to determine which ones really are bad at this point. Then I hook them in parallel and series to get the amount of amps and volts I need to power the small thing I plan to power. In this case, a bicycle light kit, that's two LEDs requiring 3 volts. Also, at some point, these do develop holes in the outer aluminum foil as the chemical processes present in the cells early on are initially pretty strong. It's even possible based on my observations, that the extra aluminum layer helps reduce later bad chemical processes by helping seal out the moisture a bit more. I could be totally wrong on that, but it seems to be true so far.

Then, I also had, I thought, sealed them in a jar. The problem is, I don't think the jar was completely sealed, so there goes any conclusions I might draw from attempting that. But, I started noticing the lights were dimming after a couple weeks. So I took everything out of the jar. No immediate change happened, but the next day, I noticed the lights were lit up brightly again. And that ws weeks ago. They're brighter than ever right now. I won't touch them until they go out, if they ever do.
At this point I'm thinking maybe these are the best little cells I've made. If in fact the jar's seal was holding, could it be that depriving these cells of... Whatever a sealed jar would deprive them of, until they were nearly dead, then letting them out, is a good thing for them? I don't know. But, that's a theory. Could just be moisture. Could be something else.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #131 on: May 16, 2014, 03:02:36 AM »
Mscoffman, what you said is so far above my knowledge, but it sounds like you have all this figured out. I may memorize that whole paragraph just so when frinds are skeptical about these, I can answer with something that sounds intelligent.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #132 on: May 16, 2014, 03:06:05 PM »




halfvulcan;

On your battery cells, just remeber there is water in the air is in the form of humidity. Those hydrate cells require the addition
of a few drops of water now and then. So these are not pure galvanic cells but seem to work on partially galvanic mechanisms.
Marcus Reid crystal cells seem fully sealed.

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As far as the principle of operation, What you can do is take a term from my explaination and look it up in wikipedia
and Google and see what it says about the term. These are all recognized scientific information, but they are put together in an
somewhat unusual way, but thats what makes scientific information valuable. Neutrino particles are highly ellusive but they also
allow SuperNova events to explode outward rather than collapse. Look up how scientist detect neutrinoes. Then go
on to the next term. I tend to dislike the situation where people have their own theories of how things operate but I've tried
to stick with existing science and found this seems to work out well end to end. I tend to dislike Quantum "explainations"
because quantum is everywhere in everything. I've put these things in my own words but they are actually rexpressions of what
other people have said of things they were looking at.


Some surpising information:


(1) Neutrinoes drive SuperNova explosions to to completetion.
(2) Neutrinoes can traverse a light year of water with less than 50% interaction rate.
(3) Conditions in Stars are not sufficient to fuse hydrogen atoms directly.
(4) When hydrogen is compressed to 200 atmospheres pressure in a metal tank. Neutrons comes out of it.
(5) There are billions of neutrinoes traversing the human body every second.


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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #133 on: May 21, 2014, 04:26:15 AM »
my friends,

I am very happy to confirm a very long test study of a cell that indeed IS NOT CORROSIVE and provides constant undertermined  run time. So far I am successfully able to have a miserable .6 ma (yes less than one milliamp) of current at over one hundred ohm resistance for an area of 1" square. Thickness of metals is irrelevant, they will not corrode at all. PERIOD. So I could use a 1/100 of an millimeter thick metal if I can find that.

Crystal structure IS CRUCIAL for water retention and energy flow. Indeed the crystal structure holds the water moisture inside of the cell and inside of the crystal itself. Crystal structure must be very low resistance. Many materials can be used including carbon.

Water retention can be with epson salts or alum or even other more complex chemicals such tetas, hexas or higher salts.

Initial start up of the cell is with water. Cell must dry out until it will DIE. That is the beginning of its new life. Depending of the mix I use it can be from 1 month up to 6 months until she is ready to run "forever".

Geometry is crucial again. Stacking does work up to a limit of current. Voltage works fine with stacking but current is limited now I believe because of the internal resistance.

This is an amazing finding of mine after 5 years studying this babies. Corrosion tricks us into believing it is only corrosion BUT water in excess is deceiving. One must control the water RETENTION, AVAILABILITY for the electrolyte and CRYSTAL GROWTH STRUCTURE.

I know, many must be thinking "come on Fausto, tells us the formula". Well, I just did. It is not about the chemicals really, it is about the PHYSICAL structure.

For example, use Epson salts in 5/10 ration, Alum 3/10, Carbon 1/20 and some form of water holder (Gelatin???), this will give you a good beginning of an electrolyte/crystal formula. Use Copper and Magnesium. Magnesium is great for power output but it is a pain to control corrosion. It either works or dies pretty quickly. I have Magnesium cells running FOR YEARS. There is plenty of corrosion visible but as time pass, less it forms and more power comes out.

If you use Copper and "other metals", you will have to change the whole electrolyte mixture to accommodate the difference in potential of the metals and its resulting internal resistance. It is a new world now. New studies and new tests. Months of tests to be honest.

Watching the discharge CURVE IS ESSENTIAL for understanding the long run process and its relation to corrosion. Some cells are simply weird to say the least others are classical asymptomatic down curves, which means pure corrosion.

Another very important finding is the build up (thouggg) of oxidization on the surface of one metal or both. This will kill the cell if the electrolyte is not the correct one. Some people use depolarizes here, but this is THE WRONG PATH. No depolarizes, no, no, no. Avoid the oxidation at all costs. One example is the Bedini Magnesium/Alum cell. That cell has no oxidation on the surface of the Magnesium which gives the "false impression" of no corrosion. No discoloration of the electrolyte either, BUT, it is corrosive to the max. I know, I have done it many times.

It is definitely the write path, but avoid the corrosion (off course, isn't this the whole point??).

Now here is one secret to the sauce, pay attention, the metal other than the copper must be very strong, very strong, very strong, hard, very hard, no ZInc, no Magnesium, no Aluminum, they are too soft and "weak", they give up to easily to corrosive process (redox). You must use something that likes water.

Soon I will post a running cell on a video in youtube.

Fausto.

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Re: Crystal Cell Research
« Reply #134 on: May 26, 2014, 03:41:41 PM »
Is plengo THE John Bedini?  :o If so, awesome, I'm not worthy, etc. :)
I just wanted to update people on my little experiment, again, nothing new, more or less following IBPointless' which is based on, actually I don't know. It would be nice to know who discovered what along the way to give proper credit. I know John Bedini and people he works with have made amazing discoveries, then there's John Hutchison and his crystal cells, then there are thousands of people just trying different things.. . I know there's controversy and data and more controversy. I just do the experiments that don't require me to spend more money until I can get on my feet.

But, one thing I wanted to mention is the very next day after my last update, the bike light kit powered by my cells began to dim noticeably, until by the day after that, you had to look at them very caarefully in a pitch black room to tell they were on. I was figuring that was the end drawing near for this latest experiment. Then, a couple days after that, they began to get brighter again, until a week later, they were again as bright as they've ever been, and they've been shining that brightly ever since, for I guess about the last week. This is a phenomenon I know IBPointless has mentioned in his videos, and I seem to remember other people mention this as well. This phenomenon in which the crystal cell nearly shuts itself down as if it has to "sleep", to fully recharge. I think I've observed it in some previous crystal cell experiments, but it was hard to say based on other things I had been doing with those previous cells. These cells are simply sitting left alone on a shelf with the lights, so it becomes clear that this is interesting and most likely reproducable behavior if I were to make more cells similar to these. Anyway, like I said, this seems to be a known behavior for these, so nothing new to people already experimenting with these. Just new to me. I just geek out about it. Such evidence that these are bringing in power from outside. They nearly completely stop, then completely come back to full by themselves. That's energy from outside the crystal cell, being brought in to power the circuit by the crystal cell. In other words, it's not being charged by us, and it's not what was stored originally in the crystal cell.

Another thought: You know on Star Trek, dilithium crystals? Did they know about this property of crystals? Has this knowledge been fairly common, just not explored much? I wouldn't bug John Bedini himself with a question like this one. Just whoever wants to chime in.

 

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