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Author Topic: New lifter design in progress  (Read 24303 times)

Offline onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: New lifter design in progress
« Reply #15 on: July 04, 2009, 05:30:02 AM »
hey Sojourner, are you the same Sojourner from the old lifters group, I use to research with everybody about 10 years ago or so.

How's everything going?

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Re: New lifter design in progress
« Reply #16 on: July 04, 2009, 12:06:26 PM »
Has it been tried to have the "helium balloon" type of counterweight that doubles as power source? Could a light-than-air balloon type structure store charges, as in a battery? It being gas, capacity is bound to be fractional, but then, the weight on earth is zero, so your get a lot for a little. Just hot air is too temperature dependable.
Balloons inside other balloon might allow for interesting form of (electrostatic?) insulation? Seems cool to charge a balloon rather than to just heat or fill it.
Mythbusters had a lead sheet helium balloon, so even metalic (coated) balloons are not unthinkable. Volume is everything. But why use that volume only for lighter-than-air application, is could perhaps be a battery!
Next step would be for the balloon to not only heat from solar power, but also charge, which can in turn power another lifter technology. Would be interesting to keep the whole craft heavier-than-air, but still use the structural integrity, surface and volume of the balloon.

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Re: New lifter design in progress
« Reply #17 on: July 04, 2009, 01:17:13 PM »
Wow! Nice forum look!

Is anyone here done any work in lifter-technology-assisted aircraft?

Yes. Northrop Grummann.
http://www.scribd.com/doc/6875095/Electrogravitics-Systemspdf

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Offline onthecuttingedge2005

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Re: New lifter design in progress
« Reply #18 on: July 04, 2009, 05:23:45 PM »
If you want to see the company that is making solid state material for top secret flying vehicles of the next generation then keep your eyes on the companies that manufacture large quantities of Aerogel. specifically the more exotic types of Aerogels made from Carbon Nano-tubes which are in the birth stages of developements.

I am not telling you which companies do this but just what to look for.
it is the rigid bodies that are lighter than air but stronger than diamond are the properties that are required to make dreams come true in space vehicle technology.

give it some nick name like: An~gel(Aero) Foam or even Angel(Aero) Hair (Aero)gel. do you see the strangeness. could it be (((Aero)Nitride)~Gel)

Also, just keep an eye out for large investments in the Aerogel industries both past and future.

Good Luck.
Jerry ;)
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Re: New lifter design in progress
« Reply #19 on: July 04, 2009, 05:32:29 PM »
I've been looking into aerogels with reasonable weight and still significant structural integrity, but came up with little. Let alone lighter than air. If an aerogel is made that works on par with a soft metal or wood per volume unit, then interesting things could be made, for sure.
For now I mostly see applications in insulation, covers, furnature.

If there are specific grades of aerogel appropriate for high-tech building, I'd be most interested. Just something that is compression resistant (to fill up a hollow beam) would already be mayor. Some hollow carbon structures get foam inserted, aerogel would be the next level. Perhaps outside shells for crafts could be coated aerogels. Thin steel plating goes a long way though.

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Offline onthecuttingedge2005

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« Reply #20 on: July 05, 2009, 05:28:23 AM »
The Next Generation Spaceship would be made entirely or 99.999% out of Aerogel including new generation circuitry and panels. the Tritium Power Generator would also be made of Aerogel with different properties.

did you know that if you had a house made entirely of Aerogel you could heat your entire house with one single candle! Amazing!

Jerry ;)

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Re: New lifter design in progress
« Reply #21 on: July 05, 2009, 11:57:02 AM »
Yes, I'm aware of the alien-like insulation properties that can be attained. Just unaware of any aerogels with usable structural integrity.
The aerogel house would need to be kept in place well though, as it could double as a balloon with the slightest of breezes.

I suppose having a lightweight craft is useful in most coditions, except one : mid-air collisions. Hitting a regulation sized duck upon launch or re-entry would send you quite a ways adrift...
I'd love to be able to go somewhere to handle a collection of aerogels. Hard to start designing an application for them when it's all just wiki pages and low resulotion lab pictures.

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