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Author Topic: tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention  (Read 16509 times)

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tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention
« on: October 24, 2012, 06:46:50 PM »
  Tinselkoala, magluvin and pirate88719 are correct, I did steal their idea.
I will have nothing to do with this except for this one post and when pirate88719 buys me a one way ticket out of America, I will be gone with a perpetual smile on my face.
 As you can see, this is what tinselkoala built, you just need to look at his video with a discerning eye.
I prefer Bessler's wheel to this.
 Of course, anyone who watched tinselkoala's video and read the thread pirate88719 realized this is what they were discussing and I should not have tried stealing their idea.
 
 But with a 9 inch static head on the 1/2 inch dia., the 1 inch tube would have 3 times the volume being 2 1/4 inches shorter in height.
And something like that might allow Bill's, alan's and Mags' invention to work. Why ? They could tell you that the WEIGHT of the water in the shorter, larger diameter tube will have more force than the taller smaller diameter tube. And because of this, as the larger diameter tube compresses the air chamber that it pumps out the water in the through the taller static head because it has less force. and this would allow the larger diameter tube to keep pumping water into the chamber because it has the most potential.
 
 To mags, ab hammer/tinselkaola and pirate88719, I do apologize for trying to steal your guys' invention.
 
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p.s. since water flows down hill, once the water is seen pumping up higher in the
smaller diameter tube, a little below that point or more if a sufficient difference is noticed, the pipe can be cut and then the water could be allowed to flow back to the fill tube.
 
edited to add; A is the static head for the narrow, less volumous tube and B is the static head for the shorter, larger diameter pipe.
and the red line shows the top of the loop seal. water has to be higher on the discharge side to prevent air from flowing out of the chamber the water is flowing into otherwise it will not compress.
 
edited toadd; by having water already in the discharge side like with heron's fountain, then when filling the fill tube, no air would be escaping the chamber. And once a discharge tube height is decided, all that is needed is to increase the diameter of the fill tube until water pumps out of the discharge tube.
because the larger diameter tube is creating the air pressure, the only question is how much pressure does it take ?

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Re: tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention
« Reply #1 on: October 24, 2012, 07:35:00 PM »
  And if it is found out that hving the larger tube drop straight down into the water and that having an expansion chamber
allows the 2 static heads to act independently, then it is ghost's invention alone.
 
edited to add a pic of his invention.

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Re: tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention
« Reply #2 on: October 24, 2012, 10:02:30 PM »
 they say God does everything for a reason.
 could be why my tail bone is so far up my butt.
 would've prefered a family but had no say.
 guess serving my country was a mistake.

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still getting pm's about giving idea's away freely. yet for this, those same people want credit but don't care to work with other people or donate patent rights to charity.
guess if people cant have tne money, they want the bragging rights to having the same idea a hundred other people have had.

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Re: tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention
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Re: tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention
« Reply #3 on: October 25, 2012, 12:43:24 AM »
  I'll let all of you know why I think giving away a workable idea like a perpetual herons fountain so funny.
 Americans call countries like Norway and Sweden welfare states and I am being treated by the V.A.
 And while those people believe in charity, it is for themselves.
 If I'm going to give something away, it will be to a charity that helps people.

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Re: tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention
« Reply #4 on: October 25, 2012, 06:32:01 AM »
Remove any reference to me from this thread and its title.

Nothing in this thread addresses my ACTUAL idea and improvement to Heron's Fountain. To use my handle in the title is a misrepresentation, a distortion, another outright LIE.

Make all the silly bogus whining claims you like, but do not involve me unless you GET IT RIGHT. And you have not gotten it right.

REMOVE ALL REFERENCES TO ME.

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Re: tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention
« Reply #5 on: October 25, 2012, 07:49:07 AM »
Captain Oblivious: (Jim)

I told you to stop referencing me in your delusional posts.  If you leave me out of them, I will not respond. 

Bill

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Re: tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention
« Reply #6 on: October 25, 2012, 04:52:34 PM »
you knoe bill, you and alan dont work with other people. you both own businesses where you are the only employee.
not sure if I could live that way.
but I have realized building a Bessler wheel is more than what most people are up for.

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Re: tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention
« Reply #7 on: October 25, 2012, 09:41:26 PM »
Perhaps I'll start a thread called "Johnny874's Perpetual Bessler Wheel Invention".

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Re: tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention
« Reply #8 on: October 25, 2012, 09:46:59 PM »
  OKAY, but Bessler's wheel isn't my invention,
 I do find it kind of funny though that 2 self employed people wouldn't be able to find away to benefit by working with someone even though tne patent rights would be given away.
 

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Re: tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention
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Re: tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention
« Reply #9 on: October 26, 2012, 12:13:07 AM »
  @All,
 did some quick math and with one variation ghost was trying in his syphoning system
is that if the fill tube is 1.5 inches in diameter and the expansion chamber has a surface area of 4 square
inches, then the discharge tube would have to be .75 inches in diameter to have the same static head. That
is if using an expansion chamber allows both static heads to act independently of each other.
 With the numbers given, the pressure in the expansion chamber would be 6.2 psi. This means that for it to pump
up the smaller diameter tube, that a .75 inch diameter has 6.2 psi of potential force.
 This means that using a .5 inch diameter tube should allow for it to be higher than the inlet tube.
 A .625 diameter tube would have a force of 4.3 psi. and a .500 diameter tube would have a force of  2.75 psi.
 I think it would be in understanding how the surface area of the expansion chamber changes the relationship between
the fill tube and the discharge pipe is necessary.
 The reason why is the larger the surface area of the expansion chamber, the less pressure it can develop because of the fill tubes static head and this would decrease the likelyhood of it working.
 I'm reposting a the pic with 2 static heads and an expansion chamber. It may just be that the expansion chamber would
allow for something like this to work. And if someone can't figure out a way to profit from some good publicity, they can't be that smart can they ?
 And the "secret" is limiting the surface are of the expansion chamber. This would allow for a higher internal pressure from the fill tube. Hope I'm not giving away anybody's secret here  :o 
 
edited to add; the arrow shows the direction of flow which the calculations are based on.

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Re: tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention
« Reply #10 on: October 26, 2012, 03:06:03 AM »
you knoe bill, you and alan dont work with other people. you both own businesses where you are the only employee.
not sure if I could live that way.
but I have realized building a Bessler wheel is more than what most people are up for.

Captain Oblivious:

Wrong again.  Where do you get this info of yours?  I work locally for a company based in South Carolina.  I am based at a multi-billion dollar corporation.  I write and sell novels on Amazon if that is what you mean?

Again, leave me out of your posts and I will not post in your topics.  I only have to post to correct your "errors" or lies, or whatever.

Bill

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Re: tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention
« Reply #11 on: October 26, 2012, 04:01:17 PM »
Captain Oblivious:

Wrong again.  Where do you get this info of yours?  I work locally for a company based in South Carolina.  I am based at a multi-billion dollar corporation.  I write and sell novels on Amazon if that is what you mean?

Again, leave me out of your posts and I will not post in your topics.  I only have to post to correct your "errors" or lies, or whatever.

Bill

  Bill,
 Problem is you don't and niether does alan. it's funny how you two can contaminate someone's thread and then say leave me out of it.
 So you changed jobs, good for you.
 
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Re: tinselkoal's Perpetual heron's Fountain Invention
« Reply #12 on: October 26, 2012, 04:10:10 PM »

 
  Bill,
 Problem is you don't and niether does alan. it's funny how you two can contaminate someone's thread and then say leave me out of it.
 So you changed jobs, good for you.
 
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  @All,
 Here is something soemone posted to me in bw.com when alan was attacking me. it seems some people are against over unity
happening.
Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:51 pm    Post subject: re: Women members?
 To James.Lindgaard

"Resentment is like taking poison and waiting for the other person to die."

"Never does the human soul
appear so strong and noble
as when it forgoes revenge
and dares to forgive an injury" --E. H. Chapin

You are experiencing the first.

Move on to the second.
 
 
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http://www.besslerwheel.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=4647&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=women&start=15

 

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