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Offline aether22

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Re: Simple Free Energy Effect Discovered
« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2012, 04:43:19 AM »
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Re: Simple Free Energy Effect Discovered
« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2012, 06:40:36 AM »
U forgot something.. If you use thinner coil with high current, this would result in an increase resistance.

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Re: Simple Free Energy Effect Discovered
« Reply #17 on: October 09, 2012, 07:11:22 AM »
Not forgotten, just not critical, indeed in theory you could use superconductive wire.
Since both coils are in series in most tests, but that may explain the high voltage out of the thicker wire.

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Offline Neo-X

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Re: Simple Free Energy Effect Discovered
« Reply #18 on: October 09, 2012, 07:38:24 AM »
Imho there is a trade off here. Current is the amount of electrons passing in 1 second. If you use thick and thin wire with the same length connected in series, the electron passing in thin wire might increase in speed but it will reduce the density of electrons flow in the wire. On the other hand the electrons on thick wire is slow but has a higher density. So the total amount of current and ofcourse magnetic field is equal that will result in zero mutual induction.

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« Reply #19 on: October 09, 2012, 08:34:20 AM »
Yes, but if you double the electron velocity (keeping the same density for a moment), do you get double or quadruple the effects from the moving charge?
I went through some logic that would say it is quadruple, but when you consider the static protons and such the magnetic force would stay the same at an equivalent ampere turns, but the inductive field I had reason to believe is different.


It is worth noting that it has been proven that rotating a magnet on it's longitudinal voltage axis increases the radial voltage (homopolar generator), which is the same as Hooper's motional E-field, if the magnet were an electromagnet that would require that the increase was consistent with quadrupling when you double the velocity because the protons create a magnetic field also.


So if the number of electrons moving halves but the velocity with which they move doubles that could still result in a doubling of the force they create.


Anyway arguing the theory isn't going to get us anywhere, it is worth noting that so far online calculators do predict a different value despite the same ampere turns, even with a single turn, are they wrong?


So I have results from 2 coils that create an inductive field, but I made another one that for some unknown reason didn't give the same results, Not yet sure why. Maybe it disproves the effect, or there may be another reason, I have done way too little testing on it yet.

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Re: Simple Free Energy Effect Discovered
« Reply #20 on: October 09, 2012, 10:21:48 AM »
First of all im not arguing in you infact i believe on your theory. Increasing the velocity of electrons has a exponential impact on the zero point energy but its hard to prove using your experiment because using thin wire with high current just only to increase the velocity will only  reduce the overall efficiency of the circuit. Theres a simple way to increase the velocity, its by using high voltage. Electrons is like a water in a pipe. If u increase the pressure on the water, the velocity of water flow is increased. If u read the documentation of patric kelly of free energy devices in chapter 3 don smith device, it was said that increasing voltage on the primary has a exponential increase in power gain on the secondary. I would suggest you to read that docu. Its very informative and it will help u alot in building ou devices.

Offline norman6538

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Re: Simple Free Energy Effect Discovered
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2012, 05:41:59 PM »
Has anyone tested this two different wire coil stuff? I hope to get to that today or tomorrow.
Like he says - its a simple test.
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Offline crazycut06

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Re: Simple Free Energy Effect Discovered
« Reply #22 on: October 13, 2012, 04:06:49 PM »
Hi aether22,
Have you tried using same inductance of thin/thick wires instead of same length, as TK mentioned some post back, maybe because of unequal inductances thats why you get induction? 
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Offline Magnethos

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Re: Simple Free Energy Effect Discovered
« Reply #23 on: October 13, 2012, 05:42:56 PM »
Imho there is a trade off here. Current is the amount of electrons passing in 1 second. If you use thick and thin wire with the same length connected in series, the electron passing in thin wire might increase in speed but it will reduce the density of electrons flow in the wire. On the other hand the electrons on thick wire is slow but has a higher density. So the total amount of current and ofcourse magnetic field is equal that will result in zero mutual induction.
It's only an oppinion, but I think you're correct if you see that example while using conductive current because this power has 2 components: amperes and electrons.
I say you this because I remember I read somewhere about a Tesla's experiment with pancake coils where he used 1 thin wire and 1 thick wire. The result was an increase of about 10 times in the electric field. But I think Tesla did that using capacitive current.

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Re: Simple Free Energy Effect Discovered
« Reply #24 on: October 13, 2012, 10:56:33 PM »
I made the two sized wire coil with first layer 60 turns on a nail with the large wire clockwise away  and 60 turns of the small wire counter clockwise away
and when powered the nail attracts a paperclip.  So I do not see the canceling magnetic
field.
A compass test shows that the large wire dominates because the compass shows
the same polarity when the large wire is powered and both coils powered. And
the small wire powered make the opposite compass deflection.

I wish someone would get the proper results and report that instead of this.
If we had a no Lenz generator we'd have plenty of cheap electricity. There are no Lenz
patents but nothing I know of in production.
 
Norman

 

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