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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2334691 times)

rakarskiy

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Once again, I want to draw attention to Figuere's patent. I don’t know where the autistic text comes from here, there is only a drawing for a patent. The second is to do what is described in the patent, which is not shown in the figure. Highlighted in the quote with "reddish ink", in reality there is a drawing in detail, this selection is missing.

Patent No. 30378 September 5, 1902 

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The undersigned inventors compose their generator as follows: Several electromagnets are placed one in front of the other, the poles of opposite names being separated by a small distance. The cores of all these electromagnets are formed in such a way that they quickly magnetize and demagnetize and do not retain residual magnetism. In the empty space remaining between the pole faces of the electromagnets of these two series, the induced wire passes one by one, or several, or many. The excitatory current, intermittent or alternating, drives all the electromagnets, which are connected either in series or in parallel, or as necessary, and currents will arise in the inductive circuit, which together constitute the total current of the generator. This allows the mechanical force to be suppressed as there is nothing to be moved.

Based on these considerations, Mr. Clemente Figuera and Mr. Pedro Blasberg, on behalf of and on behalf of the Figuera-Blasberg Society, respectfully request the grant of a definitive invention patent for this generator, the form and arrangement of which is shown in the appendix. drawings, warning that only eight electromagnets or two sets of four excitatory electromagnets each are sketched on them, and for clarity,
and the inductive circuit is marked with a thick line reddish ink , since this is a general device device, but in the sense that it is possible put more or less electromagnets in a different form or grouping.


Repeatedly studying the devices of dynamos and modern synchronous generators. I concluded that the drawing was corrected, or there should also be a drawing with an electrical circuit for excitation and an output phase, which is missing.
Now the question is: if the buyer buys the rights and a working prototype for 60 million pessetes (320 kg in gold at the time of sale), will he leak information to devalue his purchase.

sm0ky2

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It is important to understand, that in 1902 electronic were held by specific standards:
The “inductive circuit”, being standard, meant that its’ inductance is chosen based on
the resistance and capacitance of the other part of the circuit. (electromagnets etc)


This should be selected to satisfy the RLC equations.


rakarskiy

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An inductor is a part of an electrical machine responsible for creating a working magnetic flux in it. Both the rotor and the stator can act as an inductor.
Home Power plants The principle of operation of alternators.
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The principle of operation of alternators.
Principles of operation of the generator.
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Alternators, often referred to as alternators, are electromechanical devices designed to convert mechanical energy into electrical energy. The principle of operation of many of them is based on the rotation of the magnetic field. Modern generators have a fairly simple design and are capable of producing high voltage electricity.

Electromechanical generators of a rotating type began to be in great demand in modern energy.

The principle of their operation is based on the occurrence of an electromotive force in a conductor, which is under the influence of an alternating magnetic field. All generators consist of two main parts: an inductor in which a magnetic field is created, and an armature that creates an electromotive force. The stationary element of the generator is called the stator, and the rotating element is called the rotor.

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Once again, I want to draw attention to Figuere's patent. I don’t know where the autistic text comes from here, there is only a drawing for a patent. The second is to do what is described in the patent, which is not shown in the figure. Highlighted in the quote with "reddish ink", in reality there is a drawing in detail, this selection is missing.

Patent No. 30378 September 5, 1902 

Quote:

The undersigned inventors compose their generator as follows: Several electromagnets are placed one in front of the other, the poles of opposite names being separated by a small distance. The cores of all these electromagnets are formed in such a way that they quickly magnetize and demagnetize and do not retain residual magnetism. In the empty space remaining between the pole faces of the electromagnets of these two series, the induced wire passes one by one, or several, or many. The excitatory current, intermittent or alternating, drives all the electromagnets, which are connected either in series or in parallel, or as necessary, and currents will arise in the inductive circuit, which together constitute the total current of the generator. This allows the mechanical force to be suppressed as there is nothing to be moved.

Based on these considerations, Mr. Clemente Figuera and Mr. Pedro Blasberg, on behalf of and on behalf of the Figuera-Blasberg Society, respectfully request the grant of a definitive invention patent for this generator, the form and arrangement of which is shown in the appendix. drawings, warning that only eight electromagnets or two sets of four excitatory electromagnets each are sketched on them, and for clarity,
and the inductive circuit is marked with a thick line reddish ink , since this is a general device device, but in the sense that it is possible put more or less electromagnets in a different form or grouping.


Repeatedly studying the devices of dynamos and modern synchronous generators. I concluded that the drawing was corrected, or there should also be a drawing with an electrical circuit for excitation and an output phase, which is missing.
Now the question is: if the buyer buys the rights and a working prototype for 60 million pessetes (320 kg in gold at the time of sale), will he leak information to devalue his purchase.

I I'm not working on the 1902 patent. I am referencing the 1908 and Patents thereafter by his partner after his death.


rakarskiy

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floodrod,I'm trying to convey the whole essence of the available materials on Figuera. I came to Figuere's patent only after working out my concept, and my "stepping on a rake". In addition to Figuer, there is more than one engineering solution of the full principle.
After many options, I simply decomposed everything into components, left only the essence and received abrupt, unrelated materials. All we have is what we have decided to provide. In any case, the description of the operation of an electromagnetic machine is very correct.

Buron did not provide a generator, but a system of resistive excitation current controller. Perhaps the nested combination of the magnetic circuit is deliberately incorrect. Anyway, I came to this conclusion. Since for both EMF formulas it is absurd.

My advice, take it apart "by the bones" how a synchronous electromechanical generator works with a slotted one or with coils on rods with half-ends. As soon as you know this question, everything else will open.

Do not take it for trolling, but this advice will not hurt further.


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1910 AntiGravity News » A Letter From Nicola Tesla
Good Read - http://www.rexresearch.com/figuera/figuera.htm

generador Fiquera approach 1

from woopyjump - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlOGEnKpO-w
Is this our forum members @woopy

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Hello Floodrod,
why not draw it all the way to the end of each primary if it was so?

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Maybe the original patents had several angles but only the top angle made it through the time portal.

Attached is what Buforn's series array might have looked like from the side.

bistander

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Maybe the original patents had several angles but only the top angle made it through the time portal.

Attached is what Buforn's series array might have looked like from the side.

Interesting angle, but then the N and S designations don't correspond correctly, do they?
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Interesting angle, but then the N and S designations don't correspond correctly, do they?
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They certainly don't correspond with traditional theory and design of today.  But if the device really worked and provided OU, then the device itself lies outside the scope of "Traditional Theory and Design".


rakarskiy

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Another patent!

https://patents.google.com/patent/CA2357550A1/en
https://patentimages.storage.googleapis.com/f1/73/db/bddc31a19a8100/CA2357550A1.pdf

I switched to an impulse system, the principle of reverse. Unfortunately, there is no Over Unity yet. But the reverse impulse already has "weight".
The next stage is the parametric system of excitation and retraction, and then the MEG.
Circuit voltage 12V. From source / to source 12V. The current was taken on a 0.1 ohm resistor in the circuit to the (-) source.

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Maybe the original patents had several angles but only the top angle made it through the time portal.

Attached is what Buforn's series array might have looked like from the side.
Floodrod, If you close the flux path of the inducers with the current varying from high to low (opposite) on each side then you'll end up with a relatively constant flux and get no induction as there will be little to no change.
This is an image of a pdf output from a rhino drawing I posted back in April, https://overunity.com/12794/re-inventing-the-wheel-part1-clemente_figuera-the-infinite-energy-machine/msg576245/#msg576245, this is just my take on it but I can't see how it would work any other way.

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I believe this drawing posted by Floodrod is probably the closest to the actual device of any configurations I have seen.  I have marked the flux paths though the output coils to make it easier to understand.  When A phase is fully on and B phase fully off then the flux would follow the red path.  When the opposite B phase is fully on and A phase fully off then the flux would follow the blue path.  The big advantage to this configuration is that there is a completed flux path for both phases and both phases get equal power applied to the output coil.


Respectfully,
Carroll

bistander

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I believe this drawing posted by Floodrod is probably the closest to the actual device of any configurations I have seen.  I have marked the flux paths though the output coils to make it easier to understand.  When A phase is fully on and B phase fully off then the flux would follow the red path.  When the opposite B phase is fully on and A phase fully off then the flux would follow the blue path.  The big advantage to this configuration is that there is a completed flux path for both phases and both phases get equal power applied to the output coil.


Respectfully,
Carroll

Hi citfta,
Sounds good when y coils have no load, but doesn't hold true if load currents cause opposing mmf in y coils.
Hopefully bench tests can shed some light.
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I believe this drawing posted by Floodrod is probably the closest to the actual device of any configurations I have seen.  I have marked the flux paths though the output coils to make it easier to understand.  When A phase is fully on and B phase fully off then the flux would follow the red path.  When the opposite B phase is fully on and A phase fully off then the flux would follow the blue path.  The big advantage to this configuration is that there is a completed flux path for both phases and both phases get equal power applied to the output coil.


Respectfully,
Carroll

Thanks...

We need to also ask why Clement and Buforn only label one side of each coil (N)  when coils have 2 poles.   Perhaps because it was a top view and only 1 pole was showing in the schematic.  This may also answer the weird core questions, why the cores go on top of the electromagnets and not all the way through.

If you need help visualizing it in 3d, I made a 3d mock-up and flip it around in this video comparing it to the patent drawing  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPOGBEpwIN0

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Hi citfta,
Sounds good when y coils have no load, but doesn't hold true if load currents cause opposing mmf in y coils.
Hopefully bench tests can shed some light.
bi

It might be interesting..  Regarding Cifta's drawing-  Say the first coil is growing North.  The induction coil will go North as the first one grows North.  That reciprocal magnetism would probably prefer going through the reducing coil rather than the more difficult path of the growing one.  And North going into South reciprocates current in the same direction as the input.

It's a head-scratcher for sure.  But I am building it to find out