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Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2334909 times)

a.king21

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a.king21,

It appears some of Figuera's patents work in a similar fashion as the Holcomb devices (LinGen analysis - see the OUR Holcomb thread). Also,
there is some good technical information on the Holcomb web site and HES facebook page.

One of the primary gain mechanisms is found by examining the material B-H Curve. Another is the concept of only moving the Magnetic Field.

Also, in the above post, AC makes the point of increasing the "frequency of operation" - only having to move the magnetic field makes this viable.
Therefore, any small gains can add up quickly. Don Smith used this in his scheme. Combining only these might do it! Some interesting stuff IMHO.

FWIW... Holcomb patent analysis starts about here - a.k.a. "LinGen;" and includes patent review, support material, and animated CAE cartoons:
https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4261.msg98509#msg98509


SL
Thanks for that. I was not aware of this patent and it will require some study time.
He essentially repeats Figuera's claim in a different embodiment so it is very interesting.
The billion dollar question is: has anyone purchased a device with this technology in it?
Or..... is this another  Nikola type method of screwing investors according to this article:
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/14/1129248846/nikola-founder-electric-trucks-guilty-fraud


SolarLab

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Thanks for that. I was not aware of this patent and it will require some study time.
He essentially repeats Figuera's claim in a different embodiment so it is very interesting.
The billion dollar question is: has anyone purchased a device with this technology in it?
Or..... is this another  Nikola type method of screwing investors according to this article:
https://www.npr.org/2022/10/14/1129248846/nikola-founder-electric-trucks-guilty-fraud


Nearly every "disruptive technology" carries the "billion dollar questions - are they real;
can they be viably implemented; will they hit the market in a timely manner, etc.

It's a paradox - the developer needs money to "polish" his invention, this takes time, there can
be hidden problems and obsticles (technical, regulatory, public acceptance, etc.), lots of
Beta and Insitu testing/evaluations, possible modifications, re-tests, and so forth. The risk of
burning a customers factory down or disrupting his production can be catastrophic to any new 
technology - better to take your time and do it right, rather than "rush to market." 

Many investors only see the extremely large ROI available but do not do proper due diligence,
they don't appreciate the "high risk" part of "high reward," nor understand "concept-to-store-shelf"
cycle with all the "I's" dotted and "T's" crossed properly, takes time and a lot of hard work.

Milton is only one of many who got ahead of himself and the investors are only one of many
who didn't understand the arena they were entering and didn't perform any due diligence.

As far as HES (Holcomb) goes - who knows - but I did do some CAE analysis to varify the claims
and a bit of detailed checking so I remain convinced (based on my due diligence) the
technology is viable. It's still a "work-in-progress" however. We'll wait for Dr. Holcomb's lead.

SL

a.king21

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aking21
Apparent simplicity can be deceiving, did you know wind power follows the cube rule?.

When the wind speed doubles the power available is now 8 times larger ie 2x2x2=8. At first it seemed very non-intuitive to me. Until we understand that twice the mass of air moved through a given plane at twice the velocity. It's not only the velocity but the mass-velocity or total change in momentum which determines the power.

So we need to be careful about looking at things in a superficial sense. What peaked my curiosity is that Figuera often spoke of the total amount of change within the system. Implying that like the power in wind there's more energy available than meets the eye. Something simple already present but so non-intuitive almost everyone overlooked it.

AC
I am only quoting Figuera, who states that this can work with one triple coil system.  ie N.S, and y.  just vary the resistance.
Where Figuera scores is that it appears that he has found a cheap way to convert DC to AC. So any toy motor at 3000 rpm gives you 50hz AC. THAT is a good invention. (However, it does not destroy Lenz.)
Cheap AC is also very mesmerising to those not skilled in the art. ie Bankers.
Funny that he should "die suddenly".

SolarLab

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F.Y.I.

Modern Inverters are pretty good, and cheap, as well - plus they provide some
great regulation and other features like tracking.

FWIW - Here's a little paper I did on them a while back:

https://www.overunityresearch.com/index.php?topic=4154.msg96062#msg96062
SL

forest

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I think Figuera device produced DC pulsating output.

floodrod

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I think Figuera device produced DC pulsating output.

these variations in the intensity of the current flowing through a
magnetic field, cause the production of induced electrical current that can be
used for all kinds of purposes, and which produced current will be alternate,
but a simple commutator will make it continuous

SolarLab

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I think Figuera device produced DC pulsating output.


Hi Forest,

Just curious - what's your thinking based on, or from? (The output is pulsing DC)

Regards,

SL

forest

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Well, maybe the secret was in converting output using commutator to DC then return back to the input creating each loop more magnetic field more output current up to the point when all core material was saturated .... just my blind guess

SolarLab

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Well, maybe the secret was in converting output using commutator to DC then return back to the input creating each loop more magnetic field more output current up to the point when all core material was saturated .... just my blind guess


Thanks for sharing your info (thinking) - it's appreciated.

SL



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Hey Cadman,

I am going to try your strategy next.  The Pie-Coils..  I am printing out several bobbins around the size of a common Teflon Tape spool that fit over plastic conduit which I can slide a core into. And experiment with moving the field as you suggested.

In case this forum goes read-only-  I will be posting updates also on my Youtube -  https://www.youtube.com/@floodrod/videos


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Hey floodrod,

A tip: Your bobbin ends or separators should be as thin as possible, you want all of the pies to act as a single coil. Too thick and they act like separated coils.

These here are 1.6mm thick and all 4 coils are on one bobbin


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floodrod
I seem to have lost all my cad former files so I built the example below. I setup my 3D printer for thin wall printing down to 1mm walls. The former picture below can be stacked one on top of the other and glued to make a form with multiple wire areas like cadman posted. I also glue them together front to front with the seam in the center to make standard bobbins. It works well because they can be printed flat on the bed with no overhangs. I would suggest a small one to two mm fillet on the print where the round area meets the tube if your wire winding tension is high.

I also included another picture of a 3D printed former you may recognize from figuera's patents. I packed the former with iron filings and a binder then glued a lid on. It works well and the core is comparable to transformer cores in it's response. Winding coils on the former was fun but no more difficult than a toroid.

AC
« Last Edit: May 17, 2023, 07:26:06 PM by onepower »

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Hmm, thanks.  It's a shame because I have almost all the thicker bobbins printed.  I got in the habit of printer thicker because too often the thin coil spacers break on me, ruining the coil.

If this device has a metal core, and we connect the next before we break the previous, will the 4mm spacing matter?  Aren't we basically moving the magnetic field of the bar (core)? 

I was planning on using 11 of these flux-moving coils, and 2 larger pickup coils on the ends (like a dumbell).  Then using my Figuera-style 22 pole commutator (11 contacts on each side)

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All else equal the thick bobbin ends will result in fewer At/m and less magnetic field strength.
Thin or no dividers with short section length will give more At/m, greater field strength and a smoother field movement.

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All else equal the thick bobbin ends will result in fewer At/m and less magnetic field strength.
Thin or no dividers with short section length will give more At/m, greater field strength and a smoother field movement.

You are most likely correct in all you said. I plan to test with the bobbins I already made, and if the results are suggestive of a positive outcome- I will remake with the specs you suggest.

These bobbins offer the advantage of being sturdy and able to be separated, which will allow me to re-use them for other experiments in the future.  Not to mention the 15+ hours already spent printing them and the ability to use my mechanical winder.

But I agree without doubt, your suggested method would be better.