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### Author Topic: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE  (Read 2170992 times)

#### IMIGHTKNOW

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##### Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4815 on: April 05, 2023, 07:05:14 AM »

Personally, I don't even want to experiment with extracting power from coils until I perfect the sine wave.  The idea is to create two near perfect sine waves that bottom out on the zero line. So basically we are simulating two sine waves with a positive bias.

And as I said earlier, we can actually do this without switching direction of current going into the coils. If you start drawing it out and thinking how back EMF and induction work, you may see the advantage that I'm seeing.

The magic occurs from the decreasing current. Or when the sine wave is going down. And every time one side is going up, the other side is going down.

PS There is no BEMF in this device or induction is lost I hope you realize this.

If you have the wave form bottom out on the zero line as you just said induction will cease and all compression between the opposing electromagnets will drop. According to Doug1 and MM this is not the correct thing to do nor does the patent say zero. Reason be is the primary electromagnets are reduced to just get the sweeping action, no more no less.

Doug1 quietly built this device right under everyone's nose because they were just to busy scrambling to realize it. Doug1 mapped out a plan, gathered all associated information then executed his plan.

All I see here is building to unknown specs.

The one thing I know for sure you got right is the Figuera device generates on the reducing electromagnets so soft coupling doesn't matter to the device or lenz law. One is pushing the other is pulling which does the generating while both electric fields are lines up with this special switching. Being opposing means the Lenz law is not an issue like in a standard rotating generator with magnetic drag as Doug1 and MM had said.  My ex MIT neighbor is having a field day with this patent grinning from ear to ear.
Good Day!

#### phoneboy

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##### Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4816 on: April 05, 2023, 08:28:13 PM »
@ IMIGHTKNOW
"All I see here is building to unknown specs."
Not for nothing, but what "SPECS" are you referring to?
Other than the description of operation by the author (which is vague in parts),the only clearly defined item in this devices patent is the brush wheel.  The other part of the diagram is a crappy electrical diagram.
You keep sprouting off like you know the exact SPECS or contruction methods of Figuera. Wouldn't have an issue w that except  you'd  have to be over 100 YEARS OLD and have spoken to him personally.  The only other rational explanation would be that you are the kid from that Bruce Willis movie "The sixth sense" all grown up, and have been having fireside chats discussing this device w the spirit of Figuera.

If the latter is the case, then why did u call yourself "IMIGHTKNOW" marathonman, when you should have clearly called yourself "ISEEDEADPEOPLE" ??

#### forest

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##### Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4817 on: April 05, 2023, 09:14:19 PM »
Go to Las Palmas of Great Canaria and find Figuera device photos in museum that would be more productive then bla bla talk here

#### phoneboy

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##### Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4818 on: April 06, 2023, 02:44:22 AM »
Go to Las Palmas of Great Canaria and find Figuera device photos in museum that would be more productive then bla bla talk here
You're correct about the blah blah
I've attached a couple of animated gifs of field simualtions, and a rendered layout from a part of a CAD model I worked up on this device.
This is all armchair but maybe it'll help someone building.This design should induce as the inducers don't share a common core.
The gradient arrows denote the induced current direction from start to low/peak current.The Logos on the inducer cores (all ferrites) just indicate whether they are low starting or high starting current.
This configuration would put out AC as its destructive interference.
Speculative: What's more interesting to try would be to flip one of the inducer cores so that they match the patent orientation of N S as that would be constructive interference and possibly put out DC?

#### IMIGHTKNOW

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##### Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4819 on: April 06, 2023, 06:13:03 AM »
Sorry It doesn't bother me that your gay. I just don't care and the fact that MM does have his own site not me . We have a full lab and I am thankful for that. Good things on the horizon.

Specs like what loads are you building to as in just like a standard generator. You do know to build a gen you do have to have a load in mind.

Then you have to figure our how many secondaries you are willing to deal with or are willing to split the load to. Then your primaries have to be built on that assumption being split each being accountable for 1/2 the secondary load. Since resistance is detrimental to all devices It is likely they need to be wound specifically as electromagnets to react to specific current changes immediately. One long winding will not do, to much self inductance, capacitance and resistance. But I imagine your actually smart enough for all that.

Another thing the inductive resistance has to take the reducing electromagnet just far enough to get the sweeping action across the secondary then back to full potential as the other is reduced otherwise induction will fall. But again I am sure you knew that Right !

Not to mention a slew of other things you probably didn't account for or surely didn't think of.

But then to think of it your lovely ability to work with others just might get you there, Doubt it!

What you could start out by doing is apologize for being a dick and learn how to work and talk to people. Your chances might be a little more successful. but then again I am on the worst rated forum Doh figure!

We will see if you can piece the puzzle together without the aid of popups like the rest!

Have a wonderful day there fella!

#### SolarLab

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##### Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4820 on: April 06, 2023, 08:03:28 AM »

F.Y.I.

Having done a bit of simulation over time it appears the FEM preliminary analysis presented is
for the most part correct and shows the concept quite well. Of course you can interpret them as
you wish.

Some may not see the implications -  but that's not uncommon - as we move forward.

SL

Sorry It doesn't bother me that your gay. I just don't care and the fact that MM does have his own site not me . We have a full lab and I am thankful for that. Good things on the horizon.

Specs like what loads are you building to as in just like a standard generator. You do know to build a gen you do have to have a load in mind.

Then you have to figure our how many secondaries you are willing to deal with or are willing to split the load to. Then your primaries have to be built on that assumption being split each being accountable for 1/2 the secondary load. Since resistance is detrimental to all devices It is likely they need to be wound specifically as electromagnets to react to specific current changes immediately. One long winding will not do, to much self inductance, capacitance and resistance. But I imagine your actually smart enough for all that.

Another thing the inductive resistance has to take the reducing electromagnet just far enough to get the sweeping action across the secondary then back to full potential as the other is reduced otherwise induction will fall. But again I am sure you knew that Right !

Not to mention a slew of other things you probably didn't account for or surely didn't think of.

But then to think of it your lovely ability to work with others just might get you there, Doubt it!

What you could start out by doing is apologize for being a dick and learn how to work and talk to people. Your chances might be a little more successful. but then again I am on the worst rated forum Doh figure!

We will see if you can piece the puzzle together without the aid of popups like the rest!

Have a wonderful day there fella!

Thanks in advance... [if not - you know the concequences]

#### SolarLab

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##### Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4821 on: April 06, 2023, 09:00:44 AM »
IMIGHTKNOW,

It will help in our exchange. Looking forward to it!

Thanks and regards,

SL

#### floodrod

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##### Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4822 on: April 06, 2023, 07:39:12 PM »
Now I know why Figuera said the resistor drawing was just "Elementary" to demonstrate the principle..  Phew...

And the resistor is only half done!  Now I got to make the other sinewave...

Pic=  Near perfect AC wave without switching polarities!

This is only half the battle..  But now that I got the math down- the next half will be easier.

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##### Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4823 on: April 12, 2023, 02:44:44 PM »
Hi Floodrod,

How's it going, any progress?

#### floodrod

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##### Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4824 on: April 12, 2023, 05:51:34 PM »
Hi Floodrod,

How's it going, any progress?

Yo Bro...

Yes, been working on it still.. Made lots of progress -  should have info to present soon..

Here-s a glimpse.. Get the sinewaves equal and perfect and the coils no longer displays reactance. You get moving flux from an ohmic load.   I have no care of burning a few watts of heat with resistors. The ends justify the means.

#### floodrod

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##### Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4825 on: April 12, 2023, 10:41:19 PM »
Request to Math Wizards...

Can someone help me calculate the resistor values to achieve the wave in the image as designed?  I have spent dozens and dozens of hours calculating different values over and over and can not get the pattern right for the life of me..  Maybe it's not possible??

Goal-  2 sinewaves exactly 180 degrees out of phase perfectly equal..  Crossing at the exact middle..

I am currently getting the waves equal by using 2 separate resistor rigs..  But I want to see if it is possible to form 2 exact waves that cross in the exact middle as the patent is drawn..
« Last Edit: April 13, 2023, 01:25:52 AM by floodrod »

#### rakarskiy

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##### Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4826 on: April 13, 2023, 10:22:30 AM »
I worked with such controllers, but my controller turned out to be the most optimal for a single coil. In this case, the power of the resistors after the midpoint is very large.

The second voltage is not an indicator: the first indicator is the current strength, and the second is the magnetic induction in the core. It is on the creation of the linearity of magnetic induction that you need to focus. The calculation will be very COMPLEX.

#### floodrod

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##### Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4827 on: April 14, 2023, 05:02:34 PM »
Did the guy with the red pen who corrected the water-damaged drawing mess everyone up?

Check Buforn's patent..  He is feeding the electromagnets negative return back to the positive brush.
No patents have any mention of a "battery" input source.  There is no way Buforn's drawings will work Unless the output coil is also the input to get it going..

Is it possible-  AC is fed to the pickup coil at first to induce the 2 outer electromagnets to flow current.  Then the commutator is taking the induced electromagnet currents and manipulating it so the 2 outer electromagnets become self-excited.  Then the power source can be removed and the input coil now becomes the output coil?

#### onepower

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##### Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4828 on: April 14, 2023, 08:07:47 PM »
floodrod
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Check Buforn's patent..  He is feeding the electromagnets negative return back to the positive brush.
No patents have any mention of a "battery" input source.  There is no way Buforn's drawings will work Unless the output coil is also the input to get it going..

Good work, you seem to be the only one paying attention.

In the Figuera patent you posted he claims the source battery can be removed once the device is in operation. That is, the (-) and (+) terminals are not required as a constant input. At which point what we see in the picture is what we get as a self-operating stand alone circuit. This is common and many FE devices only require a small input which is later removed. It's crazy isn't it?, it's in plain sight in the patent but many can only see what they want to see.

Figuera
Quote
From this current is derived a small part to excite the machine
converting it in self-exciting and to operate the small motor which moves the
brush and the switch; the external current supply, this is the feeding current,
is removed and the machine continue working without any help indefinitely.

There is another aspect of the patent almost everyone missed.

Quote
and “+” and “-” the excitatory current which is taken from an external and foreigner generator.

In fact, this is a common theme among most past FE inventors who called what we know as man made AC/DC as false or foreign currents. It would take forever to explain all the details but we could think of it this way. We never see large AC/DC currents in nature unless a threshold has been exceeded and something discharges like lightning. Large man made currents (battery, AC, DC generators) were called false or foreign currents not generally found in nature and considered un-natural because they are.

Many FE inventors considered most of what mankind does as un-natural or foreign. They thought most men were brainwashed by society to all think and act the same following the often misguided laws of man instead of nature. This is why most men find this technology impossible and they don't have the capacity to think for themselves. So these inventors had a completely different mindset and a different way of looking at things.

For example, we could plant a single seed and decades later a large forest could be there. It is not man made, we had little or no part in it, we do not have the capacity to do such things only nature can. How can one tiny seed start a chain reaction causing massive amounts of material and energy to be concentrated in one area?. This concept is similar to how FE devices work, we cannot overpower nature only plant the seed (a small input) and let nature do the rest.

AC

#### floodrod

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##### Re: Re-Inventing The Wheel-Part1-Clemente_Figuera-THE INFINITE ENERGY MACHINE
« Reply #4829 on: April 14, 2023, 11:14:52 PM »
Another ominous clue may be the square with the circle on the parallel connection..  No other parallel connections on the patent have that symbol..

Back in that time, Tesla drew the square with 2 circles to represent AC.    Being that this is a parallel connection with one circle, Good possibility this is the point where the Electromagnet current was converted to DC (via The Switch) before it went to the brush.

" From this current is derived a small part to excite the machine converting it in self-exciting and to operate the small motor which moves the brush and the switch; the external current supply, this is the feeding current, is removed and the machine continue working without any help indefinitely."